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    Re: Musgrave Says Team Will Tailor Offense To Fit Play

    Quote Originally Posted by "mountainviking" #1103109
    "Ahhh, you must have balance Grasshopper..."

    Its the extremes that don't work. You can't pound a square peg into a round hole, and you can't tailor fit an offense around turds or you'll just have a toilet bowl.

    Guys with the talent level of Harvin and Peterson fit any scheme as long as you can get the dam ball in their hands and let them do their thing. Joe Webb has some skills, why not find a way to get him on the field too? Obviously, its way too early to tell, but I'm liking what I've heard about the new offense so far.

    I'm just happy we'll finally be seeing some new things on offense instead of the same old eyes-closed-head-down thumping into a wall we've seen 4 of the past 5!! inch:
    As always, a man of reason my friend.

    Look, it isn't like I don't have hope. I actually am pretty excited to see that he isn't coming in and making complete/sweeping changes.

    I guess I will be a bit happier once I see it on the field. Until then, keep on keeping me under control.....
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    Re: Musgrave Says Team Will Tailor Offense To Fit Play

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    WOW.
    yeah, big wow here.

    Do you really think an Offensive coordinator can completely overhaul the offense in a single offseason where they are 5 mil over the cap?

    He probably has a vision of what he wants to eventually have our O look like, but for now, he needs to work with what he's got. That's like saying we're going to run a deep passing attack if all we had is Jenkins, Aromashodu, Camarillo, Shank and a weak armed Ponder. No, you modify the scheme until you get the players you think you need to do what you want.

    Seriously, you've been quite quick on the trigger the past little while. Take a step back and think about it for a second.
    Trust me, I've thought long and hard about it.

    In short, I can see your point if we are talking about left over players, but they are still bringing in players that he doesn't know how to use.

    How do you explain those?
    Explain them?

    Musgrave came from Atlanta. Jenkins came from Atlanta. There's evidently some reason Jenkins is here, I suspect Musgrave said "Hey, I know this guy, he'll be helpful as he knows most of the scheme, can catch on quickly and can help out in the huddle at practice for the young guys still learning it"

    Who else did we get? Brought in Rudolph. Big pass-catching TE who can block too.. Seems the Falcons brought in a guy with exactly that same skillset (although, an all-time great, but still). Brought in Cook - knows the guys, knows the coaches, comes cheap. Aromashodu - again, what's to say he doesn't fit in Musgrave's end-vision of this offense?

    He's simply saying he's going to tailor it to our strengths. That seems like a smart way to go, as the Childress method simply did not work.
    Yea, lets not hope that we don't have guys brought in like Chad, PH, AD, Rice, etc.
    Sorry, must have missed something, does Musgrave run the defense?

    Plus, Childress brought in (Wait, I thought it was the VP of PP's job to do the drafting...) PH, AD and Rice. Rice is gone and never really did much until a certain HOF QB was throwing to him. PH is a good addition, but he's the type of player that can be used in quite alot of schemes. same with AD.

    But no, the Childress method is having your O set, then forcing it on a set of player until they get it, rather than adjusting and adapting to try and make it work NOW.
    Instead we get a couple of WR's who couldn't make it on the Bores WR corps for cripes sake.
    So is Rice a WR who couldn't make it on the Vikings WR corps?
    As to the rookies, I bet Spielman and Studwell had a bit more to do with that than Musgrove at this point. Hell the cat can't even figure out what blocking scheme he wants to run.
    Or, he hasn't told YOU what he's going to run.

    I don't know about you, but personally I'm not a fan of our OC announcing to the world what he plans on doing. We'll find out in due time. until then, sit tight and talk about Favre with me.
    So he comes out and gives us great indepth details about the offense he is going to run and now he is masking the truth.

    Nope, not buying. Try again.
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    Re: Musgrave Says Team Will Tailor Offense To Fit Play

    Quote Originally Posted by "BloodyHorns82" #1103112
    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1103095
    Musgrave Says Team Will Tailor Offense To Fit Players

    LOL, now I know why he's failed every place hes been an O-coord.

    He uses the old "Hey, just get me some players and I'll see if they work" approach instead of the "Draft me players that fit the scheme" approach that most of the known football world uses.

    WOW.
    As a first year offensive coordinator, what else would you expect? He hasn't had the benefit of three seasons to bring in "his" guys, not to mention the salary cap issue.
    Another voice of reason that I can understand. Problem is, atleast for me, this cat has done this before.

    I guess I'm expecting him to be more than a "First Year O-coord".

    Some of the clips I've seen of the offense working has been enlightening. I guess I won't ratched down on this cat until I see the O in action if he keeps spewing forth drivel like this.
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    Re: Musgrave Says Team Will Tailor Offense To Fit Play

    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1103095
    Musgrave Says Team Will Tailor Offense To Fit Players

    LOL, now I know why he's failed every place hes been an O-coord.
    He's been an Offensive Coordinator at UVA (where Schaub set school records) and Jacksonville. Is that what you mean by "failed every place hes (sic) been an O-coord"?

    Marty - you are the master of hyperbole.

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    Re: Musgrave Says Team Will Tailor Offense To Fit Play

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    Quote Originally Posted by "BloodyHorns82" #1103112
    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1103095
    Musgrave Says Team Will Tailor Offense To Fit Players

    LOL, now I know why he's failed every place hes been an O-coord.

    He uses the old "Hey, just get me some players and I'll see if they work" approach instead of the "Draft me players that fit the scheme" approach that most of the known football world uses.

    WOW.
    As a first year offensive coordinator, what else would you expect? He hasn't had the benefit of three seasons to bring in "his" guys, not to mention the salary cap issue.
    Another voice of reason that I can understand. Problem is, atleast for me, this cat has done this before.

    I guess I'm expecting him to be more than a "First Year O-coord".

    Some of the clips I've seen of the offense working has been enlightening. I guess I won't ratched down on this cat until I see the O in action if he keeps spewing forth drivel like this.
    It's only drivel to you, dude. I think it's better than babbling about a KAO which would work if he only had the right players.

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    Re: Musgrave Says Team Will Tailor Offense To Fit Play

    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1103119
    So he comes out and gives us great indepth details about the offense he is going to run and now he is masking the truth.

    Nope, not buying. Try again.
    What "great indepth (sic) details" did he provide?

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    Re: Musgrave Says Team Will Tailor Offense To Fit Play

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    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1103119
    So he comes out and gives us great indepth details about the offense he is going to run and now he is masking the truth.

    Nope, not buying. Try again.
    What "great indepth (sic) details" did he provide?

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    he said we'd be doing some of the same stuff with some of the same terminology.

    to marty that means we're running exactly what we did last season.

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    Re: Musgrave Says Team Will Tailor Offense To Fit Play

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    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1103119
    So he comes out and gives us great indepth details about the offense he is going to run and now he is masking the truth.

    Nope, not buying. Try again.
    What "great indepth (sic) details" did he provide?

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    Re: Musgrave Says Team Will Tailor Offense To Fit Play

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    So he comes out and gives us great indepth details about the offense he is going to run and now he is masking the truth.

    Nope, not buying. Try again.
    What "great indepth (sic) details" did he provide?

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    he said we'd be doing some of the same stuff with some of the same terminology.

    to marty that means we're running exactly what we did last season.
    You know what, I'm not suprised at all anymore that that is all you got out of it.:P
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    Re: Musgrave Says Team Will Tailor Offense To Fit Play

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    So he comes out and gives us great indepth details about the offense he is going to run and now he is masking the truth.

    Nope, not buying. Try again.
    What "great indepth (sic) details" did he provide?

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    he said we'd be doing some of the same stuff with some of the same terminology.

    to marty that means we're running exactly what we did last season.
    You know what, I'm not suprised at all anymore that that is all you got out of it.:P
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