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    Re: More Money?

    Culpepper deserves credit for not making it a bigger issue despite being unhappy. I'm on the fence on what he deserves in terms of salary but it seems he really hasn't let this affect the team at all.

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    Re: More Money?

    "Caine" wrote:
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    Instead, Wilf made his quarterback happy - or, at least partially happy. Total contentment could be a ways off, based on Ashe's comments after Culpepper received the additional $7.5 million in guaranteed money. Rather than express gratitude that Wilf increased Culpepper's total guarantees to $22.5 million, Ashe called the contract restructuring "a respectable gesture for now" that was a "temporary solution" and "there is still more work to be done." He added that Culpepper was "still underpaid."


    I was watching Sportscenter last night and caught a glimpse of them saying Culpepper is still somewhat unsatisfied with his new contract. Then I read this today from his agent.

    What the hell has Culpepper done that justifies saying he is underpaid with 22.5 guaranteed straight cash homey?

    How many division titles?
    How many playoff wins?

    Does this bug anyone else?
    This is what I was afraid of when I started posting in the original "Daunte might be unhappy...." thread (FOUND HERE).

    At which point is Daunte going to realize that HE SIGNED A CONTRACT?!?!?!?!?!? Is having a single kazillion dollar athlete worth it if you can't get to - much less WIN - the big dance? I'd say it's not.

    These prima-donna guys with their ever increasing demands - and claims of market value - are driving teams to be LESS competative. They are also screwing themselves out of any hope of a Superbowl appearance. How? As they demand an ever increasing percentage of the finite cap space available, that leaves less money available to sign other quality players.

    So, answer me this, how is this situation any better than the one that T-Ho has created? Both players - in this situation - are saying that THEY are more important than the team. Sure, they may very well be the best players on their respective teams...but that really isn't enough.

    Look at the highest paid QB's in the League: This represents their combined salary in 2004, as well as their cap value.

    ÂÂ* Favre, Brett - Packers ------- $8,501,000 / $9,534,333
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Manning, Peyton - Colts ----- $35,037,700 / $8,304,366
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Vick, Michael - Falcons ------- $12,502,400 / $7,895,257
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* McNabb, Donovan - Eagles --- $11,002,300 / $7,863,355
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Johnson, Brad - Buccaneers - $4,002,800 / $6,802,800
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Gannon, Rich - Raiders ------- $4,501,700 / $6,430,270
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Gray, Quinn - Jaguars -------- $235,600 / $6,235,600
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* McNair, Steve - Titans -------- $6,750,910 / $5,691,317
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Romo, Tony - Cowboys ------- $309,000 / $5,572,939
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Hasselbeck, Matt - Seahawks - $5,504,800 / $5,504,800
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Brooks, Aaron - Saints -------- $3,500,000 / $5,483,333
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Pennington, Chad - Jets ------- $19,004,000 / $5,073,431
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Brady, Tom - Patriots ---------- $5,504,200 / $5,062,950
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Carr, David - Texans ---------- $664,000 / $4,952,773
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Green, Trent - Chiefs ---------- $3,895,000 / $4,443,808
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Bledsoe, Drew - Bills ----------- $8,752,800 / $4,419,466
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Fiedler, Jay - Dolphins --------- $3,775,000 / $4,395,796
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Harrington, Joey - Lions ------- $1,775,000 / $3,443,750
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Delhomme, Jake - Panthers ---- $7,735,000 / $3,401,666
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Kitna, Jon - Bengals ------------- $3,377,500 / $3,190,000
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Bulger, Marc - Rams ------------- $9,459,200 / $2,918,200
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Palmer, Carson - Bengals ------- $1,337,500 / $2,767,500
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Rivers, Philip - Chargers -------- $8,955,000 / $2,580,000
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Culpepper, Daunte - Vikings -- $1,037,300 / $2,458,865
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Brees, Drew - Chargers --------- $2,063,500 / $2,371,000
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Dilfer, Trent - Seahawks --------- $1,251,200 / $2,251,200
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Manning, Eli - Giants ------------- $4,744,000 / $2,244,000
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Brunell, Mark - Redskins --------- $9,364,300 / $2,197,633
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Leftwich, Byron - Jaguars -------- $8,399,000 / $2,132,665
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Warner, Kurt - Giants ------------- $3,000,400 / $2,000,400
    ÂÂ*ÂÂ* Flutie, Doug - Chargers ----------- $1,226,900 / $1,986,900

    So, while I agree that Culpepper is worth more than he was being paid in 2004, at some point he has to realize that HE is not bigger than the team. And his driving focus has to be Superbowl, not salary.

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    Re: More Money?

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    I peaked in the other thread and saw some jawing, but I never looked at the original topic.

    I agree with you Caine. That would be my argument how the hell is this any different then TO.

    The main difference is Pepper isn't taking time off, he isn't making a huge deal out of this to the public.

    But under it all the guy apparently wants more money. He's gol 'darnit good, and I am glad to have him as our QB but there has to be some point where the management says how about you win us something and then we will talk.

    Until then I think what you have can feed your family and pay your bills.

    That's the only thing that really irks me is the guy hasn't won anything for the team. He made a fe pro-bowls, and gets 4,000+ yards a game. He had a nice chunk of change already and he wants more money either based on

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    manning and vick haven't won anything. and their pay is through the roof . culpepper is worth the going rate . atleast this isn't being a huge media distraction .

    culpepper should be comended . this is how you you go about getting a raise:

    1 . you are currently grossly under paid compaired to similar players
    2 . the media doesn't find out untill the contract is already pretty much done . why would you want to embarrass your employer into getting your raise
    3 . no hold out

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    First off, I hardly call what culpepper was being paid as grossly underpaid. Personally I think that Culpepper should be a little more grateful to a team that paid him the highest contract of all time (at the time), when his play on the field CLEARLY did not merit it up to that point.


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    Re: More Money?

    I heard that most of the "partially satisfied" talk was coming from his agent. When they quoted Sgt. 'Pepper himself, he sounded pretty satisfied.


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    Re: More Money?

    i think it's his agent. i think he just wants him to be the highest player again.

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    "fourdoorchevelle" wrote:
    "Del Rio" wrote:
    I peaked in the other thread and saw some jawing, but I never looked at the original topic.

    I agree with you Caine. That would be my argument how the hell is this any different then TO.

    The main difference is Pepper isn't taking time off, he isn't making a huge deal out of this to the public.

    But under it all the guy apparently wants more money. He's gol 'darnit good, and I am glad to have him as our QB but there has to be some point where the management says how about you win us something and then we will talk.

    Until then I think what you have can feed your family and pay your bills.

    That's the only thing that really irks me is the guy hasn't won anything for the team. He made a fe pro-bowls, and gets 4,000+ yards a game. He had a nice chunk of change already and he wants more money either based on

    :stats
    :what he may or may not do in the future.

    manning and vick haven't won anything. and their pay is through the roof . culpepper is worth the going rate . atleast this isn't being a huge media distraction .

    culpepper should be comended . this is how you you go about getting a raise:

    1 . you are currently grossly under paid compaired to similar players
    2 . the media doesn't find out untill the contract is already pretty much done . why would you want to embarrass your employer into getting your raise
    3 . no hold out
    That's not true Manning has brought home a division title twice. Even Vick has brought one home, and they both have as many if not more (Manning) playoff wins as Culpepper.

    When he starts winning some division titles or some more come from behind games then maybe I would consider giving him an extra dump truck load of cash to go with the 10 he has parked in his mansion.

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