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    hey we got to trade down last year and back up ...ha ha this is not as easy as you nguys make it seem ...omg

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    2014 NFL Mock Drafts - Will Brinson - CBSSports.com NFLDraftScout.com

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    Whoooop! There it is, MN trades back to 13 with the Rams, so they can go get the LT prospect they've missed on multiple times, and a guy who is the son of one of Fisher's friends. We'd most likely get their third (11 of the 3rd) and their 5th (the 13th of 5th)...

    And at 13, we snag our QB of the Defense, CJ Mosley! An intelligent and instinctive LB with the coverage skills to play all downs, forcing whoever starts as our MLB to the sideline on passing downs and combined with the Captain, improving our third down Pass D immensely!

    Those 3 thirds we'd have at that point would add up to 561 points on the chart, or one point more than Washington's 2nd pick of the 2nd round, a trade that they'd most likely jump on given their depth of needs and lack of picks due to prior trades, but most importantly, putting us ahead of all the other QB needy teams who waited to fill that hole!?

    Sounds good, no? SKOL VIKINGS!!!!
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    you think are dumb enuogh to jump 5 spots give away 3rd and 5th pick for a guy that might be there at 13 ...plus the DRAFT IS DEEP THEY CAN GET ANOTHER LINEMAN ...

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    Actually, they might be smart to make that move, because 3 of those spots are occupied by teams with OL needs and there is a significant drop off in talent/character past the first two OT prospects. Lewan has all the physical traits you could ask for, but perhaps a bit of Incognito as well. On the other hand, Fisher has ties with the Mathews family and experience with their top notch intangibles, and a bunch of extra picks due to trading back multiple times the past 2 years. It is pretty much the perfect storm of a fit.

    Also, while this draft is deep overall, it is not deep in all positions. There are only 2 top ten OT prospects and only 3 more ranked in the top 40, so teams with a serious need for a starting LT might be more willing to move up than you think. Specially if HOU goes with Greg Robinson no.1 overall and starts an early rush on the rare, big, physical athletes who play LT.

    Hell, who thought the Browns would give up 3 mid-late picks to move up one spot last year!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by purpleblood32 View Post
    you think are dumb enuogh to jump 5 spots give away 3rd and 5th pick for a guy that might be there at 13 ...plus the DRAFT IS DEEP THEY CAN GET ANOTHER LINEMAN ...
    Actually that is like saying they can get another QB. If it is a player they covet they will make the trade if they think they can get him anyway they won't. But if he is just another OL then you are right they will just stay where they are and go for the PBA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountainviking View Post
    Actually, they might be smart to make that move, because 3 of those spots are occupied by teams with OL needs and there is a significant drop off in talent/character past the first two OT prospects. Lewan has all the physical traits you could ask for, but perhaps a bit of Incognito as well. On the other hand, Fisher has ties with the Mathews family and experience with their top notch intangibles, and a bunch of extra picks due to trading back multiple times the past 2 years. It is pretty much the perfect storm of a fit.

    Also, while this draft is deep overall, it is not deep in all positions. There are only 2 top ten OT prospects and only 3 more ranked in the top 40, so teams with a serious need for a starting LT might be more willing to move up than you think. Specially if HOU goes with Greg Robinson no.1 overall and starts an early rush on the rare, big, physical athletes who play LT.

    Hell, who thought the Browns would give up 3 mid-late picks to move up one spot last year!?
    Great post!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarkenton10 View Post
    Great post!!
    Thanks!! Cheers!

    By all accounts, the deepest position is WR, and tho there are 2 guys who have the physical traits and production to go in the top ten, they might be the guys who drop further than expected due to teams being more willing to gamble that a different difference maker at that position will still be available a bit later...

    Except, perhaps, if you are a team like San Fran who has consistently been very, very close to winning a championship, and has missed on WR picks over and over...and also happen to have more picks than roster spots available. Maybe they would make a big move on a "sure thing" WR like Watkins...they already have 2 big guys in Crabtree and V.D. so Sammy would fit very well in that offense.

    Trades don't happen haphazardly, nobody wants to look the fool and so they have to fit both teams needs. I like to look for the fits like a glove scenarios...

    On that same note, STL seems to have indicated they like their WRs (and perhaps the draft's depth there)...so Sammy going at no.2 seems unlikely. Also, they have a plethora of shorter, faster WRs in Bailey and Austin, the better fit for them would be Evans anyway, adding the big, red-zone threat that they currently lack.

    How's this for a Purple Dream Scenario!? We land Mike Evans early in the first, perhaps after moving back a bit...his size, length and leap add up to an incredible catching radius that has the potential to make a mediocre QB like Cassel look pretty F'n good. Then, we give up our early third to move our 2nd back up to 24 or 25 where we snag Johny Fuckin Football Manziel (most likely QB to drop due to way more tape of questionable mechanics than one proday can erase?) Or, whichever other QB has dropped instead.

    Bortles seems the top long term QB due to size, production and intangibles.
    Bridgewater had one off proday but I don't think that was enough to erase his on field completion percentages...specially the 80% completions vs. blitz and with pressure in his face.
    It does sound like some teams actually prefer Carr over some of the other 3.
    Process of elimination tells me that Johnny Football might be the one available in the mid 20s...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mountainviking View Post
    Thanks!! Cheers!

    By all accounts, the deepest position is WR, and tho there are 2 guys who have the physical traits and production to go in the top ten, they might be the guys who drop further than expected due to teams being more willing to gamble that a different difference maker at that position will still be available a bit later...

    Except, perhaps, if you are a team like San Fran who has consistently been very, very close to winning a championship, and has missed on WR picks over and over...and also happen to have more picks than roster spots available. Maybe they would make a big move on a "sure thing" WR like Watkins...they already have 2 big guys in Crabtree and V.D. so Sammy would fit very well in that offense.

    Trades don't happen haphazardly, nobody wants to look the fool and so they have to fit both teams needs. I like to look for the fits like a glove scenarios...

    On that same note, STL seems to have indicated they like their WRs (and perhaps the draft's depth there)...so Sammy going at no.2 seems unlikely. Also, they have a plethora of shorter, faster WRs in Bailey and Austin, the better fit for them would be Evans anyway, adding the big, red-zone threat that they currently lack.

    How's this for a Purple Dream Scenario!? We land Mike Evans early in the first, perhaps after moving back a bit...his size, length and leap add up to an incredible catching radius that has the potential to make a mediocre QB like Cassel look pretty F'n good. Then, we give up our early third to move our 2nd back up to 24 or 25 where we snag Johny Fuckin Football Manziel (most likely QB to drop due to way more tape of questionable mechanics than one proday can erase?) Or, whichever other QB has dropped instead.

    Bortles seems the top long term QB due to size, production and intangibles.
    Bridgewater had one off proday but I don't think that was enough to erase his on field completion percentages...specially the 80% completions vs. blitz and with pressure in his face.
    It does sound like some teams actually prefer Carr over some of the other 3.
    Process of elimination tells me that Johnny Football might be the one available in the mid 20s...
    NO WAY Watkins gets out of the first 10 picks... write it DOWN!!

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    The niners alone would trade some of those draft picks they have for a Evans or Watkins; I don't expect either to be there for long.

    Lewan is moving up draft boards, I think by May 8th he is a top 15, perhaps 12 pick. If we think the Titans will not draft Manziel (and he is there at 8), it is possible to trade back to 14-16 and still get him, if we were to trust basic draft common "knowledge".

    But I don't think we can trust the Titans NOT to take JFM if he is there; worst, something tells me that if Bortles, Bridgewater or Manziel (and maybe Carr) are there at 15, there is a good chance the Steelers shock everyone and draft a QB. There is a lot of dissension under the surface in Pittsburgh.

    In the end, I think the best case we have is if Manziel, Mack or another of their type is available at 8, we are taking them. BUT... #40 might become just as valuable if the draft goes kooky. It's a deep draft, who knows?
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    MLB - Brinkley vs Cole

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