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    Re: Minnesota Vickings?

    "Zeus" wrote:
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    http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2728_Troll_report:_Favre's_motivation_to_return .html

    THE 100-WIN QUARTERBACK CLUB

    Name Period W L T Pct.
    1 Brett Favre 1991-2008 169 100 0 .628
    2 John Elway 1983-1998 148 82 1 .643
    3 Dan Marino 1983-1999 147 93 0 .613
    4 Fran Tarkenton 1961-1978 124 109 6 .531
    5 Johnny Unitas 1956-1973 119 63 4 .651
    6T Joe Montana 1979-1994 117 47 0 .713
    6T Peyton Manning 1998-Present 117 59 0 .665
    8 Terry Bradshaw 1970-1983 107 51 0 .677
    9 Warren Moon 1984-2000 102 101 0 .502
    10 Jim Kelly 1986-1996 101 59 0 .631
    IMHO, the winners on that list are:
    Elway, Johnny U, Montana and Bradshaw.
    Since Brady and Roethlisberger don't have 100 career wins, they aren't on the list, but I also consider them to be winners.
    Again - this is just my opinion.

    Marino, for example, as great as he was, just didn't have IT.
    Only ONE Super Bowl trip and it was a loss.
    All of those QB's except Maybe Favre, Marino and Moon had GREAT teams around them.

    Elway? Broncos won back to back superbowls, gotta count for something.
    Tark?
    4 wins away from being a dynasty
    Kelly? Same deal as Tark
    Montana/Bradshaw? nothing more neds to be said
    Manning: how many 12 win seasons in a row?
    The back-to-backers for Elway (who I listed as a Winner) push him over the edge - but his record of 4th-quarter comebacks also has to put him wayyyy up the list.

    Tark?
    #2 all-time in LOSSES as a starting QB.
    And he had some GREAT teams around him.

    Kelly?
    I'd be more likely to put him above Tark as a winner - but the 4 consecutive chokes takes away a lot of his "winner" cred.

    Manning?
    Despite all the success, you put him outdoors in January and he folks like a deck chair on the Titanic.

    =Z=
    My point was more, that they had great teams around them, that put them in this category.
    Guys like Warren Moon, Brett Favre and Dan Marino are on this list, despite not having great teams around them.

    (actually, Fran played on some pretty bad Vikings/Giants teams early on.)

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    Re: Minnesota Vickings?

    "Zeus" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
    http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2728_Troll_report:_Favre's_motivation_to_return .html

    THE 100-WIN QUARTERBACK CLUB

    Name Period W L T Pct.
    1 Brett Favre 1991-2008 169 100 0 .628
    2 John Elway 1983-1998 148 82 1 .643
    3 Dan Marino 1983-1999 147 93 0 .613
    4 Fran Tarkenton 1961-1978 124 109 6 .531
    5 Johnny Unitas 1956-1973 119 63 4 .651
    6T Joe Montana 1979-1994 117 47 0 .713
    6T Peyton Manning 1998-Present 117 59 0 .665
    8 Terry Bradshaw 1970-1983 107 51 0 .677
    9 Warren Moon 1984-2000 102 101 0 .502
    10 Jim Kelly 1986-1996 101 59 0 .631
    IMHO, the winners on that list are:
    Elway, Johnny U, Montana and Bradshaw.
    Since Brady and Roethlisberger don't have 100 career wins, they aren't on the list, but I also consider them to be winners.
    Again - this is just my opinion.

    Marino, for example, as great as he was, just didn't have IT.
    Only ONE Super Bowl trip and it was a loss.
    Awesome! 62.8% for Favre. Even higher than the number I posted. Saying Favre is not a winner is just weird.
    Longevity = career wins.

    Longevity <> Winner.

    And none of that has anything to do with him failing in December/January over the past 10 years.

    =Z=
    Longevity = experience, something none of our QBs have.

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    Re: Minnesota Vickings?


    "Zeus" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
    http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2728_Troll_report:_Favre's_motivation_to_return .html

    THE 100-WIN QUARTERBACK CLUB

    Name Period W L T Pct.
    1 Brett Favre 1991-2008 169 100 0 .628
    2 John Elway 1983-1998 148 82 1 .643
    3 Dan Marino 1983-1999 147 93 0 .613
    4 Fran Tarkenton 1961-1978 124 109 6 .531
    5 Johnny Unitas 1956-1973 119 63 4 .651
    6T Joe Montana 1979-1994 117 47 0 .713
    6T Peyton Manning 1998-Present 117 59 0 .665
    8 Terry Bradshaw 1970-1983 107 51 0 .677
    9 Warren Moon 1984-2000 102 101 0 .502
    10 Jim Kelly 1986-1996 101 59 0 .631
    IMHO, the winners on that list are:
    Elway, Johnny U, Montana and Bradshaw.
    Since Brady and Roethlisberger don't have 100 career wins, they aren't on the list, but I also consider them to be winners.
    Again - this is just my opinion.

    Marino, for example, as great as he was, just didn't have IT.
    Only ONE Super Bowl trip and it was a loss.
    Awesome! 62.8% for Favre. Even higher than the number I posted. Saying Favre is not a winner is just weird.
    Longevity = career wins.

    Longevity <> Winner.

    And none of that has anything to do with him failing in December/January over the past 10 years.

    =Z=
    And the Vikings have never won a superbowl, and that trend has been happening for the past 45 years.. I guess we should just give up then right?

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    Re: Minnesota Vickings?

    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:

    "Zeus" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
    http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2728_Troll_report:_Favre's_motivation_to_return .html

    THE 100-WIN QUARTERBACK CLUB

    Name Period W L T Pct.
    1 Brett Favre 1991-2008 169 100 0 .628
    2 John Elway 1983-1998 148 82 1 .643
    3 Dan Marino 1983-1999 147 93 0 .613
    4 Fran Tarkenton 1961-1978 124 109 6 .531
    5 Johnny Unitas 1956-1973 119 63 4 .651
    6T Joe Montana 1979-1994 117 47 0 .713
    6T Peyton Manning 1998-Present 117 59 0 .665
    8 Terry Bradshaw 1970-1983 107 51 0 .677
    9 Warren Moon 1984-2000 102 101 0 .502
    10 Jim Kelly 1986-1996 101 59 0 .631
    IMHO, the winners on that list are:
    Elway, Johnny U, Montana and Bradshaw.
    Since Brady and Roethlisberger don't have 100 career wins, they aren't on the list, but I also consider them to be winners.
    Again - this is just my opinion.

    Marino, for example, as great as he was, just didn't have IT.
    Only ONE Super Bowl trip and it was a loss.
    Awesome! 62.8% for Favre. Even higher than the number I posted. Saying Favre is not a winner is just weird.
    Longevity = career wins.

    Longevity <> Winner.

    And none of that has anything to do with him failing in December/January over the past 10 years.

    =Z=
    And the Vikings have never won a superbowl, and that trend has been happening for the past 45 years.. I guess we should just give up then right?
    Not a chance. Never.
    There is a new chance every year.
    It is starting to like this team will have a chance in the near future.
    I doubt it will be with Vick, however.
    “What takes a quarterback to the next level is not arm strength or mobility or any of that stuff. It’s the ability to play on critical downs. Manage third downs, or red zones or four-minute or two-minute situations"
    Dilfer

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    Re: Minnesota Vickings?

    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
    http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2728_Troll_report:_Favre's_motivation_to_return .html

    THE 100-WIN QUARTERBACK CLUB

    Name Period W L T Pct.
    1 Brett Favre 1991-2008 169 100 0 .628
    2 John Elway 1983-1998 148 82 1 .643
    3 Dan Marino 1983-1999 147 93 0 .613
    4 Fran Tarkenton 1961-1978 124 109 6 .531
    5 Johnny Unitas 1956-1973 119 63 4 .651
    6T Joe Montana 1979-1994 117 47 0 .713
    6T Peyton Manning 1998-Present 117 59 0 .665
    8 Terry Bradshaw 1970-1983 107 51 0 .677
    9 Warren Moon 1984-2000 102 101 0 .502
    10 Jim Kelly 1986-1996 101 59 0 .631
    IMHO, the winners on that list are:
    Elway, Johnny U, Montana and Bradshaw.
    Since Brady and Roethlisberger don't have 100 career wins, they aren't on the list, but I also consider them to be winners.
    Again - this is just my opinion.

    Marino, for example, as great as he was, just didn't have IT.
    Only ONE Super Bowl trip and it was a loss.
    Awesome! 62.8% for Favre. Even higher than the number I posted. Saying Favre is not a winner is just weird.
    Longevity = career wins.

    Longevity <> Winner.

    And none of that has anything to do with him failing in December/January over the past 10 years.

    =Z=
    Longevity = experience, something none of our QBs have.
    The thing that makes great QB's is not their stats or even the teams they play for.
    Rather, its the ability to win games even if their team has lost it.
    Favre can do that and so can Vick.
    So can the QB's on that list.
    They are a threat to take charge of the game and pull it out.
    If I had the choice I would pick Favre to pull it out for us and I think that the Vikes are thinking the same way.
    They will not pick someone because their passer rating is 2 pts better than the next guys.

    WWBGD

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    Re: Minnesota Vickings?

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    All of those QB's except Maybe Favre, Marino and Moon had GREAT teams around them.

    Elway? Broncos won back to back superbowls, gotta count for something.
    Tark?
    4 wins away from being a dynasty

    Kelly? Same deal as Tark
    Montana/Bradshaw? nothing more neds to be said
    Manning: how many 12 win seasons in a row?
    Just to set the record straight, Tark lost only 3 Super Bowls not 4

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    Re: Minnesota Vickings?

    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
    http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2728_Troll_report:_Favre's_motivation_to_return .html

    THE 100-WIN QUARTERBACK CLUB

    Name Period W L T Pct.
    1 Brett Favre 1991-2008 169 100 0 .628
    2 John Elway 1983-1998 148 82 1 .643
    3 Dan Marino 1983-1999 147 93 0 .613
    4 Fran Tarkenton 1961-1978 124 109 6 .531
    5 Johnny Unitas 1956-1973 119 63 4 .651
    6T Joe Montana 1979-1994 117 47 0 .713
    6T Peyton Manning 1998-Present 117 59 0 .665
    8 Terry Bradshaw 1970-1983 107 51 0 .677
    9 Warren Moon 1984-2000 102 101 0 .502
    10 Jim Kelly 1986-1996 101 59 0 .631
    IMHO, the winners on that list are:
    Elway, Johnny U, Montana and Bradshaw.
    Since Brady and Roethlisberger don't have 100 career wins, they aren't on the list, but I also consider them to be winners.
    Again - this is just my opinion.

    Marino, for example, as great as he was, just didn't have IT.
    Only ONE Super Bowl trip and it was a loss.
    Awesome! 62.8% for Favre. Even higher than the number I posted. Saying Favre is not a winner is just weird.
    Longevity = career wins.

    Longevity <> Winner.

    And none of that has anything to do with him failing in December/January over the past 10 years.

    =Z=
    Longevity = experience, something none of our QBs have.
    Experience is overrated. Gus had lots of experience, and threw 15int in 9 games. Experience makes a player better, but is no guarantee they will play better than someone with less experience. Your only as good as you play.

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    Re: Minnesota Vickings?

    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
    http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2728_Troll_report:_Favre's_motivation_to_return .html

    THE 100-WIN QUARTERBACK CLUB

    Name Period W L T Pct.
    1 Brett Favre 1991-2008 169 100 0 .628
    2 John Elway 1983-1998 148 82 1 .643
    3 Dan Marino 1983-1999 147 93 0 .613
    4 Fran Tarkenton 1961-1978 124 109 6 .531
    5 Johnny Unitas 1956-1973 119 63 4 .651
    6T Joe Montana 1979-1994 117 47 0 .713
    6T Peyton Manning 1998-Present 117 59 0 .665
    8 Terry Bradshaw 1970-1983 107 51 0 .677
    9 Warren Moon 1984-2000 102 101 0 .502
    10 Jim Kelly 1986-1996 101 59 0 .631
    IMHO, the winners on that list are:
    Elway, Johnny U, Montana and Bradshaw.
    Since Brady and Roethlisberger don't have 100 career wins, they aren't on the list, but I also consider them to be winners.
    Again - this is just my opinion.

    Marino, for example, as great as he was, just didn't have IT.
    Only ONE Super Bowl trip and it was a loss.
    Awesome! 62.8% for Favre. Even higher than the number I posted. Saying Favre is not a winner is just weird.
    Longevity = career wins.

    Longevity <> Winner.

    And none of that has anything to do with him failing in December/January over the past 10 years.

    =Z=
    Longevity = experience, something none of our QBs have.
    Experience is overrated. Gus had lots of experience, and threw 15int in 9 games. Experience makes a player better, but is no guarantee they will play better than someone with less experience. Your only as good as you play.
    Gus has no where near the experience Favre has. Not even close.

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    Re: Minnesota Vickings?

    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:

    "Zeus" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
    http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2728_Troll_report:_Favre's_motivation_to_return .html

    THE 100-WIN QUARTERBACK CLUB

    Name Period W L T Pct.
    1 Brett Favre 1991-2008 169 100 0 .628
    2 John Elway 1983-1998 148 82 1 .643
    3 Dan Marino 1983-1999 147 93 0 .613
    4 Fran Tarkenton 1961-1978 124 109 6 .531
    5 Johnny Unitas 1956-1973 119 63 4 .651
    6T Joe Montana 1979-1994 117 47 0 .713
    6T Peyton Manning 1998-Present 117 59 0 .665
    8 Terry Bradshaw 1970-1983 107 51 0 .677
    9 Warren Moon 1984-2000 102 101 0 .502
    10 Jim Kelly 1986-1996 101 59 0 .631
    IMHO, the winners on that list are:
    Elway, Johnny U, Montana and Bradshaw.
    Since Brady and Roethlisberger don't have 100 career wins, they aren't on the list, but I also consider them to be winners.
    Again - this is just my opinion.

    Marino, for example, as great as he was, just didn't have IT.
    Only ONE Super Bowl trip and it was a loss.
    Awesome! 62.8% for Favre. Even higher than the number I posted. Saying Favre is not a winner is just weird.
    Longevity = career wins.

    Longevity <> Winner.

    And none of that has anything to do with him failing in December/January over the past 10 years.

    =Z=
    And the Vikings have never won a superbowl, and that trend has been happening for the past 45 years.. I guess we should just give up then right?
    just give up untill the team moves

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    Re: Minnesota Vickings?

    "marstc09" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    [quote author=Zeus link=topic=52202.msg961243#msg961243 date=1245780457]
    http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_2728_Troll_report:_Favre's_motivation_to_return .html

    THE 100-WIN QUARTERBACK CLUB

    Name Period W L T Pct.
    1 Brett Favre 1991-2008 169 100 0 .628
    2 John Elway 1983-1998 148 82 1 .643
    3 Dan Marino 1983-1999 147 93 0 .613
    4 Fran Tarkenton 1961-1978 124 109 6 .531
    5 Johnny Unitas 1956-1973 119 63 4 .651
    6T Joe Montana 1979-1994 117 47 0 .713
    6T Peyton Manning 1998-Present 117 59 0 .665
    8 Terry Bradshaw 1970-1983 107 51 0 .677
    9 Warren Moon 1984-2000 102 101 0 .502
    10 Jim Kelly 1986-1996 101 59 0 .631
    IMHO, the winners on that list are:
    Elway, Johnny U, Montana and Bradshaw.
    Since Brady and Roethlisberger don't have 100 career wins, they aren't on the list, but I also consider them to be winners.
    Again - this is just my opinion.

    Marino, for example, as great as he was, just didn't have IT.
    Only ONE Super Bowl trip and it was a loss.
    Awesome! 62.8% for Favre. Even higher than the number I posted. Saying Favre is not a winner is just weird.
    Longevity = career wins.

    Longevity <> Winner.

    And none of that has anything to do with him failing in December/January over the past 10 years.

    =Z=
    Longevity = experience, something none of our QBs have.
    Experience is overrated. Gus had lots of experience, and threw 15int in 9 games. Experience makes a player better, but is no guarantee they will play better than someone with less experience. Your only as good as you play.
    Gus has no where near the experience Favre has. Not even close.
    [/quote]
    Not as many starts or pass attempts. Gus has played in 15 seasons for 6 different teams though. Point is many wanted Gus to play because he had the experience, but experience alone is not enough. You also have to be able to play well and not make silly mistakes. There is a reason many older QB's get cut. With age and experience comes wear and tear, and complacency. Not talking about Favre here, just QB's in general. It's all about how well you play, doesn't matter if you play well because of experience, athletisism, instincts, or work ethic, either you can play at a high level or you can't.

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