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    Re: Mewelde Moore speaks out on Childress...

    Quote Originally Posted by "seaniemck7" #1089411
    I don't see how people are not on board the Frazier Train. All I hear is about how tired people are over losing respected assistants who go on to win the Super Bowl (Dungy and Tomlin).

    Frazier is almost a carbon copy of Dungy: Stoic, respected, defensive minded, spiritual and played the game. Being a first time HC, there are certainly questions as to how he will handle in-game situation. However it can't be any worse than Chilly or Tice for that matter. Supporters of Chilly and Tice will say they had their strengths, but in-game coaching was would not be one of them. Childress' inflexibility made sure he could switch gears mid-game.
    It isn't that Leslie will be a BAD Head Coach...

    My fear is that because Zygi Wilf has left HIMSELF in the loop and once again failed to acquire the services of a Football Guy to act as General Manager, we are left without a firm hand on the wheel. It is my belief that until Zygi removes himself and his brother Mark from FOOTBALL decisions, and puts in someone who has a shred of credibility, that almost ANY Head Coach will be swimming upstream.


    ..especially one who is NEW and lacks the credibility to tell the owner to get back in the owners box, shut up, and write the damn checks.

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    Re: Mewelde Moore speaks out on Childress...

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    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1089373
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    Some of us knew after his first season that he was a dud and wanted him replaced then and there. Of course there was the banter about "Time to install his scheme" and " Needs to get players that fit the system" in his defense, which I politely LMAO'd at. Some of us knew that despite his "Improving record every year" and his "2 consecutive division championships" that he didn't have the ability to coach a team to a SB win. Some sguys on this site could never figure that part out but apparently some of the players did.

    I really want to hear from Matt Birk.
    I want you to go on record right now about Leslie seeings how you are suck a great evaluator of HC'ing talent.

    Quick question, how long do you think it takes to implement a scheme especially when have to gut your team?
    Oh, I am sorry. Did I somehow miss Leslies first season ? I didn't think he had coached a game yet? Get back to me on whether you want to reword your request....
    You should have seen enough of his coaching abilities based on his track record as the D-coord.

    Get back with me if you aren't the renowned coach evaluator your first post alludes to.
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    Re: Mewelde Moore speaks out on Childress...

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    Quote Originally Posted by "Mr Anderson" #1089247
    It also shows that Favre had nothing to do with the locker room problems that Childress created. At least 2 years before Favre got here the players didn't respect Childress.
    Lets not forget what type of locker room he inherited. Its was pretty much a free for all that meathead allowed and the Ownership group told him to clean it up.

    Makes me harken back to the day I inherited a Radio Shack on a Fast Frigate that "Failed to Sail" because they couldn't get their comms working.

    They had the reputation as being a bunch of fun/party guys, but they also carried the rep as the worst shack on the water front. I got tabbed to go onboard and clean them up.

    Suffice it to say, they didn't like the "Authoritarian" leadership approach I took, and I had lots of complaints lobbied against me cause I was to tough. Guess what, it took time (9 months) to get them up to snuff and over time we won several comm awards and always could communicate no matter what the situation.

    Was I loved? Hell no, be we still could execute the mission when called. Several years later I was asked to speak at one of those young guys "Commissioning" ceremony and saw 3 of the make "Master Chief".

    In the end, there are lots of styles of leadership that a cat can take but in most instances, that leadership style is dictated by the circumstances you were handed by the guy before you. If one were to look real close at things like this you will see a cyclic type of rotation.........

    Stern, fun loving, stern, fun loving......Not alot of consistency there my friends.
    Were you "hated"? Did you run it for 5 years and never gain respect? Did you consistently fail to get your guys to perform and make sales? When they did succeed did they say they were doing so "despite of him[you]"


    Childress had 5 years to right the ship he inherited, by the time his 4th year rolled around the team had: McKinnie, Herrera, Pat and Kevin Williams, Antoine Winfield, and Kleinsasser remaining.

    In those 5 years he did nothing to make his KAO work on a long term basis. We were a revolving door at QB and WR for his entire tenure minus 2009. When his Favre HoF-Band Aid fix came through and made the KAO look great... despite Childress.


    We didn't change just for the sake of change. We made a change because in five years, Childress made negative progress. Sure his teams won a couple of division titles, but they didn't do it on his work. Tremendously talent allowed us to overcome what he did to hold us back.

    And we're not looking at a good coach with the respect of the players who simply didn't get the job done like Brian Billick or Wade Phillips. We fired a guy who not only failed to right what people called a sinking ship, in fact, he went from a "party" locker room who played beyond their talent level and won some games for a coach they at the very least liked, to an underperforming squad for a coach that they at the very least "hate" and do not respect.

    So tell me, did we fire Tice just for the sake of change? Did he really deserve to get shitcanned if Chilly didn't?

    I'd rather have Mike Tice coach this team for 10 seasons than Brad Childress for 1.


    Firing Childress is the best move this franchise has made in the past 10 years. They waited entirely too long to do so, but finally, they did, and I couldn't be happier.
    Who cares what the players think of him as long as they are winning and showing progress.......6-10, 8-8, 10-6, 12-4, ....

    When was the last time we won back to back div champion?
    When was the last time we got to the NFC Championship game?
    When was the last time we had a team with this much talent?

    .....until the debacle that happened this season they were winning.

    Truth of the matter is, if there was a viable option out there for him at QB (we all know there wasn't) we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

    Again, I could care less if he is loved, respected or adored. I just want to win. Until the FO pukes refused to take care of players and the Noodle screwed things up this year with his own agenda, we were winning.
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    Re: Mewelde Moore speaks out on Childress...

    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1089436
    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1089396
    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1089373
    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1089296
    Some of us knew after his first season that he was a dud and wanted him replaced then and there. Of course there was the banter about "Time to install his scheme" and " Needs to get players that fit the system" in his defense, which I politely LMAO'd at. Some of us knew that despite his "Improving record every year" and his "2 consecutive division championships" that he didn't have the ability to coach a team to a SB win. Some sguys on this site could never figure that part out but apparently some of the players did.

    I really want to hear from Matt Birk.
    I want you to go on record right now about Leslie seeings how you are suck a great evaluator of HC'ing talent.

    Quick question, how long do you think it takes to implement a scheme especially when have to gut your team?
    Oh, I am sorry. Did I somehow miss Leslies first season ? I didn't think he had coached a game yet? Get back to me on whether you want to reword your request....
    You should have seen enough of his coaching abilities based on his track record as the D-coord.

    Get back with me if you aren't the renowned coach evaluator your first post alludes to.
    One more time for possible penetration.....

    Maybe read my follow up post where I stated he was working with the staff Childress picked and was coaching his systems.

    I will base my judgement on how he implements his scheme and by the coaches he chooses and how they use their players.

    That is what I did with Childress, that is what I will do with Frazier.:whistle:

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    Re: Mewelde Moore speaks out on Childress...

    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1089437
    Who cares what the players think of him as long as they are winning and showing progress.......6-10, 8-8, 10-6, 12-4, ....
    maybe you could complete your sentence by having the record of the final year that he coached- you know, just to be complete.:P

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    Re: Mewelde Moore speaks out on Childress...

    Quote Originally Posted by "seaniemck7" #1089411
    I don't see how people are not on board the Frazier Train. All I hear is about how tired people are over losing respected assistants who go on to win the Super Bowl (Dungy and Tomlin).

    Frazier is almost a carbon copy of Dungy: Stoic, respected, defensive minded, spiritual and played the game. Being a first time HC, there are certainly questions as to how he will handle in-game situation. However it can't be any worse than Chilly or Tice for that matter. Supporters of Chilly and Tice will say they had their strengths, but in-game coaching was would not be one of them. Childress' inflexibility made sure he could switch gears mid-game.
    Tice had no strengths other than he was a character that people liked.

    As I've said repeatedly on here, most Vikings fans like the character even if the team sucks but hate the stern guy even though the team is winning.

    Why I'm not on board with Frazier, even though I've put it out there alot of times, I will state one more time....

    a. He has had a myriad of opportunities to be a HC with other organizations. To date, none of them thought he was ready.
    b. The defense absolutely under achieved with him as it Coord. Why do we think the team won't now under achieve with him.
    c. The owners only gave him a 3 year deal. In essence, he is already a lame duck coach that is nothing more than a cheap solution until they get their revenue stream figured out.
    d. The coaching staff he has assembled are nothing more than a bunch of guys who have failed at one point or another in this league and all were brought in, IMHO because they are/were cheap.

    Again, I hope he works out and forces them to keep him, but I doubt he will.
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    Re: Mewelde Moore speaks out on Childress...

    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1089438
    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1089436
    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1089396
    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1089373
    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1089296
    Some of us knew after his first season that he was a dud and wanted him replaced then and there. Of course there was the banter about "Time to install his scheme" and " Needs to get players that fit the system" in his defense, which I politely LMAO'd at. Some of us knew that despite his "Improving record every year" and his "2 consecutive division championships" that he didn't have the ability to coach a team to a SB win. Some sguys on this site could never figure that part out but apparently some of the players did.

    I really want to hear from Matt Birk.
    I want you to go on record right now about Leslie seeings how you are suck a great evaluator of HC'ing talent.

    Quick question, how long do you think it takes to implement a scheme especially when have to gut your team?
    Oh, I am sorry. Did I somehow miss Leslies first season ? I didn't think he had coached a game yet? Get back to me on whether you want to reword your request....
    You should have seen enough of his coaching abilities based on his track record as the D-coord.

    Get back with me if you aren't the renowned coach evaluator your first post alludes to.
    One more time for possible penetration.....

    Maybe read my follow up post where I stated he was working with the staff Childress picked and was coaching his systems.

    I will base my judgement on how he implements his scheme and by the coaches he chooses and how they use their players.

    That is what I did with Childress, that is what I will do with Frazier.:whistle:
    now gentlemen,.... play nice.
    Why must you defend everything this FO does....to the point of making your self look like a yes man.

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    Re: Mewelde Moore speaks out on Childress...

    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1089439
    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1089437
    Who cares what the players think of him as long as they are winning and showing progress.......6-10, 8-8, 10-6, 12-4, ....
    maybe you could complete your sentence by having the record of the final year that he coached- you know, just to be complete.:P
    Finally caught someone online......

    I did finish it, look below the separate items after the ......

    This year was a debacle, and it started when the yutz FO pukes refused to take care of players that needed/deserved contracts.

    Like it or not, the loss of Rice through the first part of the season really hampered the offense.
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    Re: Mewelde Moore speaks out on Childress...

    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1089438
    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1089436
    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1089396
    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1089373
    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1089296
    Some of us knew after his first season that he was a dud and wanted him replaced then and there. Of course there was the banter about "Time to install his scheme" and " Needs to get players that fit the system" in his defense, which I politely LMAO'd at. Some of us knew that despite his "Improving record every year" and his "2 consecutive division championships" that he didn't have the ability to coach a team to a SB win. Some sguys on this site could never figure that part out but apparently some of the players did.

    I really want to hear from Matt Birk.
    I want you to go on record right now about Leslie seeings how you are suck a great evaluator of HC'ing talent.

    Quick question, how long do you think it takes to implement a scheme especially when have to gut your team?
    Oh, I am sorry. Did I somehow miss Leslies first season ? I didn't think he had coached a game yet? Get back to me on whether you want to reword your request....
    You should have seen enough of his coaching abilities based on his track record as the D-coord.

    Get back with me if you aren't the renowned coach evaluator your first post alludes to.
    One more time for possible penetration.....

    Maybe read my follow up post where I stated he was working with the staff Childress picked and was coaching his systems.

    I will base my judgement on how he implements his scheme and by the coaches he chooses and how they use their players.

    That is what I did with Childress, that is what I will do with Frazier.:whistle:
    I can already look at that staff and make a decision. If your the coaching analyst you seem to be saying you are, I just want you to back up your claim you will be touting in the next couple of years like you are now on the Chiller.
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    Re: Mewelde Moore speaks out on Childress...

    Quote Originally Posted by "marshallvike" #1089442
    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1089438
    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1089436
    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1089396
    Quote Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1089373
    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1089296
    Some of us knew after his first season that he was a dud and wanted him replaced then and there. Of course there was the banter about "Time to install his scheme" and " Needs to get players that fit the system" in his defense, which I politely LMAO'd at. Some of us knew that despite his "Improving record every year" and his "2 consecutive division championships" that he didn't have the ability to coach a team to a SB win. Some sguys on this site could never figure that part out but apparently some of the players did.

    I really want to hear from Matt Birk.
    I want you to go on record right now about Leslie seeings how you are suck a great evaluator of HC'ing talent.

    Quick question, how long do you think it takes to implement a scheme especially when have to gut your team?
    Oh, I am sorry. Did I somehow miss Leslies first season ? I didn't think he had coached a game yet? Get back to me on whether you want to reword your request....
    You should have seen enough of his coaching abilities based on his track record as the D-coord.

    Get back with me if you aren't the renowned coach evaluator your first post alludes to.
    One more time for possible penetration.....

    Maybe read my follow up post where I stated he was working with the staff Childress picked and was coaching his systems.

    I will base my judgement on how he implements his scheme and by the coaches he chooses and how they use their players.

    That is what I did with Childress, that is what I will do with Frazier.:whistle:
    now gentlemen,.... play nice.
    Me and Purp always play nice. One of my favorites to discuss stuff with.
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