02-13-2011, 08:14 AM #21
Re: Mewelde Moore speaks out on Childress...Originally Posted by "singersp" #1089257
Funny how that is forgotten.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
02-13-2011, 08:16 AM #22
Re: Mewelde Moore speaks out on Childress...Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1089296
Quick question, how long do you think it takes to implement a scheme especially when have to gut your team?Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
02-13-2011, 08:20 AM #23
Re: Mewelde Moore speaks out on Childress...Originally Posted by "slavinator" #1089298
I was, initially against him, started to warm to him a bit after we started to see some progress, and then turned on him after the Noodles second year.
Even then, I didn't think we needed to get rid of him. Just needed to put a GM in charge and leave the coaching to the Chiller.
Again, I hate change, just for change sake.
Anyone who believes we are going to be a better team next year because we changed our HC is just fooling themselves.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
Re: Mewelde Moore speaks out on Childress...Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1089373
02-13-2011, 04:23 PM #25
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Re: Mewelde Moore speaks out on Childress...Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1089396
Re: Mewelde Moore speaks out on Childress...Originally Posted by "i_bleed_purple" #1089403
I'll give him a year with his stuff and see how things go.
02-13-2011, 05:21 PM #27
Re: Mewelde Moore speaks out on Childress...Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1089371
Childress had 5 years to right the ship he inherited, by the time his 4th year rolled around the team had: McKinnie, Herrera, Pat and Kevin Williams, Antoine Winfield, and Kleinsasser remaining.
In those 5 years he did nothing to make his KAO work on a long term basis. We were a revolving door at QB and WR for his entire tenure minus 2009. When his Favre HoF-Band Aid fix came through and made the KAO look great... despite Childress.
We didn't change just for the sake of change. We made a change because in five years, Childress made negative progress. Sure his teams won a couple of division titles, but they didn't do it on his work. Tremendously talent allowed us to overcome what he did to hold us back.
And we're not looking at a good coach with the respect of the players who simply didn't get the job done like Brian Billick or Wade Phillips. We fired a guy who not only failed to right what people called a sinking ship, in fact, he went from a "party" locker room who played beyond their talent level and won some games for a coach they at the very least liked, to an underperforming squad for a coach that they at the very least "hate" and do not respect.
So tell me, did we fire Tice just for the sake of change? Did he really deserve to get shitcanned if Chilly didn't?
I'd rather have Mike Tice coach this team for 10 seasons than Brad Childress for 1.
Firing Childress is the best move this franchise has made in the past 10 years. They waited entirely too long to do so, but finally, they did, and I couldn't be happier.
02-13-2011, 05:28 PM #28
Re: Mewelde Moore speaks out on Childress...
I don't see how people are not on board the Frazier Train. All I hear is about how tired people are over losing respected assistants who go on to win the Super Bowl (Dungy and Tomlin).
Frazier is almost a carbon copy of Dungy: Stoic, respected, defensive minded, spiritual and played the game. Being a first time HC, there are certainly questions as to how he will handle in-game situation. However it can't be any worse than Chilly or Tice for that matter. Supporters of Chilly and Tice will say they had their strengths, but in-game coaching was would not be one of them. Childress' inflexibility made sure he could switch gears mid-game.
Re: Mewelde Moore speaks out on Childress...Originally Posted by "seaniemck7" #1089411
We are kind of like the maxwell Smart of the NFL....
02-13-2011, 09:58 PM #30
Re: Mewelde Moore speaks out on Childress...Originally Posted by "Marrdro" #1089369
That said, if you believe firing Chiller was "change, just for change sake", then your understanding of the underlying issues is sorely lacking.
Chiller built HIS team, HIS way, and insisted on being the final authority in all elements.
His QB choice....failure.
His play calling....sad.
His game planning....pathetic.
His ability to inspire a team....terrible.
He was fired, NOT because an angry fan base demanded it (And trying to say that we're an "unstable" fan base is just sad in itself), he was fired because our ownership FINALLY realized what many of us had been saying for YEARS...Chiller couldn't get it done.
Now you say that we have to watch as we start all over again? Have you been paying attention? The team we have RIGHT NOW, the one that needs to be rebuilt, is the one CHILLER built for us. The holes are there because CHILLER put them there. The lack of depth is there because CHILLER didn't put any in place.
We have to rebuild NOT because of a new Coach...we have to rebuild because of the OLD Coach!!!
...unless, of course, you believe that Chiller had a plan for filling in all the roster holes this off season...
Finally, successful teams don't have to please "yutz faqns" because they have their houses in order. Packer fans were SCREAMING for Thompson's head 3-4 years ago. Now they think he's a genius (I still think he's a douche).
Giants fans were screaming for Coughlin's head 4 years ago...then he won a Superbowl. And they're grumbling again right now.
Are the Raiders screwed up because they listen to "yutz fans"? Or are they simply screwed up?
You like to try and spin this entire debacle (our failing franchise) as the result of Ownership listening to fans and being swept along on the wave of popular opinion...that simply isn't true. Never has been.
Our franchise is in disarray because we have a RICH FAN who bought a team and decided to play "Football Guy". He raced out and hired a Head Coach who had "great family values"...but didn't bother to determine what his football cred was (mostly because he himself didn't have any). After 5 years of empty promises about a KAO that never appeared, and a QB who never matured, that COACH brought in a hired gun to run his team...and almost got lucky.
Which part of these failings was FAN influenced?
When the team melted down, it wasn't due to fan influence, it was due to poor planning, poor personnel acquisition, and piss rotten management....NONE of which were fan influenced.
So, again, stop trying to blame the fan base or paint us as unstable. As I've said elsewhere, we've stayed true for DECADES while owner after owner has mismanaged our team. Meanwhile, ask Wisconsin residents from the 80's where all the Packer fans were. I used to see Bear fans, 49'ers fans, Cowboys fans, and the occasional Lions fan here in southern Wisconsin...but Packer fans were almost impossible to find....until Favre showed up.
Those Packer fans were the proverbial rock.....
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