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    Re: Mewelde Moore says he's up for challenge

    "Marrdro" wrote:
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    It will be interesting to see what he does this year with Peterson....I doubt we will resign him next year.
    I doubt he would want to stay.
    He has produced everytime he played.
    If it weren't for minor nagging injuries early on in his career I doubt Chester Taylor or Adrian Peterson would be here.
    More like, if it wasn't for injuries throughout his career and if he wasn't a "meow" and if he was good then the Vikings wouldn't need to be picking up RBs that can get the job done.
    Please don't make me dig up his pathetic injury and documented whining streak, it is painful enough just thinking about it.
    I got ya on this one Proph


    He sure stepped up last year when CT wore down/got hurt.
    Way to go Memo, 34 yds in 5 games.

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    Bullshit, you didn't prove crap.
    The premise of this whole discussion is that MeMo could have carried the load.
    He cannot.
    He is injury ridden and a pussy.
    I posted about 50 examples in an earlier thread.
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    Re: Mewelde Moore says he's up for challenge

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    He sure stepped up last year when CT wore down/got hurt.
    Way to go Memo, 34 yds in 5 games.

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    http://www.purplepride.org/index.php...6207#msg576207
    That's a 5 yard per carry average.

    Rushing

    Year Team G GS Att Yds Avg Lg TD 20+ 1st
    2006 Minnesota Vikings 16 0 24 131 5.5 15 0 0 3

    How many receiving yards did he have in those same 5 games?
    Does it matter?

    Is he a WR or a RB?
    2006 MIN 16 46 468 10.2 50 1 15 0 0

    What does his average look like over his career?

    How many games has he missed due to injury?

    Most important thing to consider is do we need him on this roster if the coaching staff can't rely on him to be healthy or produce.


    Obviously they don't like him for one reason or another.
    If that is the case, ship him down the road this year, get something for him and move on.

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    Re: Mewelde Moore says he's up for challenge

    "Prophet" wrote:
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    It will be interesting to see what he does this year with Peterson....I doubt we will resign him next year.
    I doubt he would want to stay.
    He has produced everytime he played.
    If it weren't for minor nagging injuries early on in his career I doubt Chester Taylor or Adrian Peterson would be here.
    More like, if it wasn't for injuries throughout his career and if he wasn't a "meow" and if he was good then the Vikings wouldn't need to be picking up RBs that can get the job done.
    Please don't make me dig up his pathetic injury and documented whining streak, it is painful enough just thinking about it.
    I got ya on this one Proph


    He sure stepped up last year when CT wore down/got hurt.
    Way to go Memo, 34 yds in 5 games.

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    kaka del rio, you didn't prove crap.
    The premise of this whole discussion is that MeMo could have carried the load.
    He cannot.
    He is injury ridden and a "meow".
    I posted about 50 examples in an earlier thread.
    Using that logic, so was Chester for breaking down at the end of last year, and so was Adrian for being unable to finish his past 2 seasons.
    MeMo, has looked better on a per carry basis than Chester has (and has a higher ypc average).
    MeMo also breaks more tackles and is more elusive (though he may not push the pile as far as Chester).


    I'm simply stating that if MeMo had stayed healthy back when we had Bennett, we we likely wouldn't have Chester or Adrian on the team.
    The fact is, he didn't, but he has the ability to be a starter.

    If I recall MeMo was the one who broke like 4 tackles to get a first down on a draw on 3rd a 7 to nearly lock the game for us against the bears only to see Chester fumble away the game 2 plays later.


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    Re: Mewelde Moore says he's up for challenge

    unfortuantly Memo and Fason have somewhat fallen off the radar with the drafting of Peterson. I think they both provide nice depth, but if they have any trade value, see what you can get.

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    Re: Mewelde Moore says he's up for challenge

    "ItalianStallion" wrote:
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    [quote author=davike link=topic=34534.msg584738#msg584738 date=1180067167]
    It will be interesting to see what he does this year with Peterson....I doubt we will resign him next year.
    I doubt he would want to stay.
    He has produced everytime he played.
    If it weren't for minor nagging injuries early on in his career I doubt Chester Taylor or Adrian Peterson would be here.
    More like, if it wasn't for injuries throughout his career and if he wasn't a "meow" and if he was good then the Vikings wouldn't need to be picking up RBs that can get the job done.
    Please don't make me dig up his pathetic injury and documented whining streak, it is painful enough just thinking about it.
    I got ya on this one Proph


    He sure stepped up last year when CT wore down/got hurt.
    Way to go Memo, 34 yds in 5 games.

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    http://www.purplepride.org/index.php...6207#msg576207
    kaka del rio, you didn't prove crap.
    The premise of this whole discussion is that MeMo could have carried the load.
    He cannot.
    He is injury ridden and a "meow".
    I posted about 50 examples in an earlier thread.
    Using that logic, so was Chester for breaking down at the end of last year, and so was Adrian for being unable to finish his past 2 seasons.
    MeMo, has looked better on a per carry basis than Chester has (and has a higher ypc average).
    MeMo also breaks more tackles and is more elusive (though he may not push the pile as far as Chester).


    I'm simply stating that if MeMo had stayed healthy back when we had Bennett, we we likely wouldn't have Chester or Adrian on the team.
    The fact is, he didn't, but he has the ability to be a starter.

    If I recall MeMo was the one who broke like 4 tackles to get a first down on a draw on 3rd a 7 to nearly lock the game for us against the bears only to see Chester fumble away the game 2 plays later.
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    Re: Mewelde Moore says he's up for challenge

    "Marrdro" wrote:
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    He sure stepped up last year when CT wore down/got hurt.
    Way to go Memo, 34 yds in 5 games.

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    http://www.purplepride.org/index.php...6207#msg576207
    That's a 5 yard per carry average.

    Rushing

    Year Team G GS Att Yds Avg Lg TD 20+ 1st
    2006 Minnesota Vikings 16 0 24 131 5.5 15 0 0 3

    How many receiving yards did he have in those same 5 games?
    Does it matter?

    Is he a WR or a RB?
    2006 MIN 16 46 468 10.2 50 1 15 0 0
    Yes it matters. You need a RB to be able to catch the ball to give veratility to the types of plays they call, especially if all the receivers are covered & the QB needs to check down to him.

    Career Receiving yard avg.

    Memo: 9.5 in 3 years (110 for 1,045)
    Taylor: 7.0 in 5 years (147 for 1,025)
    Peterson: 8.2 in 3 years (24 for 198)

    What does his average look like over his career?
    Career Rushing yard avg.

    Memo: 4.8 in 3 years (244 for 1,172)
    Taylor: 4.2 in 5 years (676 for 2,815)
    Peterson: 5.4 in 3 years (747 for 4,045)

    How many games has he missed due to injury?
    Games they were not active for due to injury or being made inactive by coach:

    Memo: 6 in 3 years (All in 2004)
    Taylor: 3 in 5 years (1 in 2002, 2005 & 2006)
    Peterson: 9 in 3 years (2 in 2005 & 7 in 2006)

    Most important thing to consider is do we need him on this roster if the coaching staff can't rely on him to be healthy or produce.
    Yes, we need him for depth at the RB & for what he brings to the field as the stats show. Memo is also our return man on punt returns.

    He has also played more games in the last 3 years missing 6 of 48 (12%), while Peterson didn't finish his last two seasons, missing 2 games in 2005 & 7 last year for 9 of 39 (23%).

    If the number of games missed is so important to you, then you shouled also be questioning why we drafted Peterson.

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    Taylor is more of an every down back than Memo is IMO, but Memo does have a lot to offer.

    There is no reason we need to unload him at this point & we should be keeping him as our 3rd RB.

    Pinner or Fason are two of the RB's I wouldn't mind be let go before Memo. Fason had a good year last year with a 5.5 yard average, but in 2005 he only averaged 1.9.

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    Re: Mewelde Moore says he's up for challenge

    Great post Singer!

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    Re: Mewelde Moore says he's up for challenge

    I like watching Memo play.
    He's a playmaker.

    But he found a way to get in Tice's dog house, and apparently Childress isn't too impressed either.
    I agree with the sentiment here that it was probably his injuries and his attitude about those injuries that caused this.
    In the NFL you need to play through some injuries, and my memory is that Memo couldn't play through a bad itch.

    I expect that without any production (on the ground) last year or this year he has zero trade value, but will go someplace else as a free agent at some point to get a new start.


    And if Moore gets a lot of carries this year, then I expect it will be a long season because that will mean that Taylor and AD have injury problems.
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    Re: Mewelde Moore says he's up for challenge

    "singersp" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
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    He sure stepped up last year when CT wore down/got hurt.
    Way to go Memo, 34 yds in 5 games.

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    http://www.purplepride.org/index.php...6207#msg576207
    That's a 5 yard per carry average.

    Rushing

    Year Team G GS Att Yds Avg Lg TD 20+ 1st
    2006 Minnesota Vikings 16 0 24 131 5.5 15 0 0 3

    How many receiving yards did he have in those same 5 games?
    Does it matter?

    Is he a WR or a RB?
    2006 MIN 16 46 468 10.2 50 1 15 0 0
    Yes it matters. You need a RB to be able to catch the ball to give veratility to the types of plays they call, especially if all the receivers are covered & the QB needs to check down to him.

    Career Receiving yard avg.

    Memo: 9.5 in 3 years (110 for 1,045)
    Taylor: 7.0 in 5 years (147 for 1,025)
    Peterson: 8.2 in 3 years (24 for 198)

    What does his average look like over his career?
    Career Rushing yard avg.

    Memo: 4.8 in 3 years (244 for 1,172)
    Taylor: 4.2 in 5 years (676 for 2,815)
    Peterson: 5.4 in 3 years (747 for 4,045)

    How many games has he missed due to injury?
    Games they were not active for due to injury or being made inactive by coach:

    Memo: 6 in 3 years (All in 2004)
    Taylor: 3 in 5 years (1 in 2002, 2005 & 2006)
    Peterson: 9 in 3 years (2 in 2005 & 7 in 2006)

    Most important thing to consider is do we need him on this roster if the coaching staff can't rely on him to be healthy or produce.
    Yes, we need him for depth at the RB & for what he brings to the field as the stats show. Memo is also our return man on punt returns.

    He has also played more games in the last 3 years missing 6 of 48 (12%), while Peterson didn't finish his last two seasons, missing 2 games in 2005 & 7 last year for 9 of 39 (23%).

    If the number of games missed is so important to you, then you shouled also be questioning why we drafted Peterson.

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    Taylor is more of an every down back than Memo is IMO, but Memo does have a lot to offer.

    There is no reason we need to unload him at this point & we should be keeping him as our 3rd RB.

    Pinner or Fason are two of the RB's I wouldn't mind be let go before Memo. Fason had a good year last year with a 5.5 yard average, but in 2005 he only averaged 1.9.

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    Can't argue with stats but I think that the reason that Fason only had a 1.9 yard average in 2005 was because he was used mostly at the goaline.

    I would much rather see us get rid of either Pinner or Fason before Memo. Memo bring allot of versatility to the table and is great with draws and screen plays. I always thought of him as almost delicate and I think he was used right last year. I don't think he has what it takes to be a full time carrier in Childress's style of offense which requires a RB with more power. Memo has an elusive running style, he would much rather try and pull a move then run over a defender. I think he is a great change up to Peterson and Taylors style.

    Unfortunatly I think he won't be happy with his lesser role with Peterson in there so he will probably be let go next year so he can go to a team that will give him more chances.

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    Re: Mewelde Moore says he's up for challenge

    "davike" wrote:

    Can't argue with stats but I think that the reason that Fason only had a 1.9 yard average in 2005 was because he was used mostly at the goaline.
    I recall he was used on more than just the goaline in 2005 with little to show for it, but mostly near the goaline. He put in 4 TD's that year but the one that sticks out the most was when we were on or near the 1 & they gave him the ball 3 or 4 times in a row & he failed to punch it in.




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