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    Mentoring AP

    This byeweek is killing me. Im bored to kingdom come. But this film is really nice. Didnt know the RB Coach had coached AD in highschool. I understand a bit more why we went after him now.

    http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/v...2-1f6699a7684a

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    Re: Mentoring AP

    "Dekay" wrote:
    This byeweek is killing me. Im bored to kingdom come. But this film is really nice. Didnt know the RB Coach had coached AD in highschool. I understand a bit more why we went after him now.

    http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/v...2-1f6699a7684a
    According to the vid, which I loved, Eric Bieniemy was UCLA's RB coach and tried to recruit AD to UCLA out of HS, but failed as AD went to OK instead.
    But since watching him from HS it was a major impact in getting him in the pros.
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    Re: Mentoring AP

    "gagarr" wrote:
    "Dekay" wrote:
    This byeweek is killing me. Im bored to kingdom come. But this film is really nice. Didnt know the RB Coach had coached AD in highschool. I understand a bit more why we went after him now.

    http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/v...2-1f6699a7684a
    According to the vid, which I loved, Eric Bieniemy was USC's RB coach and tried to recruit AD to UCLA out of HS, but failed as AD went to OK instead.
    But since watching him from HS it was a major impact in getting him in the pros.

    Fantastic video...man, Bienemy really gets on AD, great job.


    But since watching him from HS it was a major impact in getting him in the pros.
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    They showed at least three times where Bienemy was chewing AP out for not knowing the play that was called in the huddle.
    Not that he didn't know what the play was, he didn't even know the play that was called, not paying attention?

    Maybe that is why Taylor played a lot the last few years and less this year.

    I hope that isn't a problems still.


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    Thank you so much for sharing that!
    It was really interesting. Kinda cool that Peterson's high school coach is his RB coach in NFL.
    Vikings' RB coach, Bienemy, must be good considering that Chester Taylor, a nobody, came to Minnesota and had a pro bowl like season. Plus, how Mewelde Moore has grown as a player.

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    "snowinapril" wrote:
    They showed at least three times where Bienemy was chewing AP out for not knowing the play that was called in the huddle.
    Not that he didn't know what the play was, he didn't even know the play that was called, not paying attention?

    Maybe that is why Taylor played a lot the last few years and less this year.

    I hope that isn't a problems still.


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    "HEY" wrote:
    Thank you so much for sharing that!
    It was really interesting. Kinda cool that Peterson's high school coach is his RB coach in NFL.
    Vikings' RB coach, Bienemy, must be good considering that Chester Taylor, a nobody, came to Minnesota and had a pro bowl like season. Plus, how Mewelde Moore has grown as a player.
    They weren't together in High School!

    Bienemy was at UCLA as a RB coach.
    He tried to recruit AD.


    AD went to OK.
    They were reunited at MN when Bienemy was recruiting (draft) him once more, they were in contact before the draft.
    Bienemy always wanted to work with AD.

    ___________

    CT isn't really a nobody.
    I think that people definitely see his talent.
    He must be the only RB in history to be trapped behind this stat:


    On the team with Jamal Lewis when he ran for 295 yards in one game against Cleveland.
    On the team with Peterson when he fan for 296 yards in one game against the Chargers.

    I hope he gets his ring with us.
    The guy is a team player.

    ___________

    I am a bit in wonder about ADs yards this season. I was hoping that our passing game would open it up for him, seems to have had an opposite effect.
    Teams want BF to pass and tire him out by the end of the season or make mistakes.....?
    There is a reason that BF is having a "great statistical" year.
    High passer rating, high completion percentage and low INTs. AD is opening it up for BF.
    BF is playing awesome, don't get me wrong.
    It is a combo of the two that is making BF's stats slightly better.
    AD is not getting the stats reciprocated because he is "the" threat.

    Has AD lost a step?
    Does it seem he is getting caught from behind?
    I might just be delusional.


    Even with that said, he is still on pace to get 1400 yards which is more than the 1341 his rookie season, but less than the 1760 yards from last year.
    AD is on pace to top his receiving yards from previous seasons, he should finish with 400 yards.

    Average/Rush Yds
    2009

    4.8
    2008

    4.8
    2007

    5.6
    He had so many big plays his rookie season.
    His avg/rcpt was 14.1 yds compared to this season at 9.9 yds.

    Check out his stats:
    http://www.nfl.com/players/adrianpet...e?id=PET260705

    Do you think that the coaching is helping other than maybe keeping him focused?

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    Re: Mentoring AP

    "snowinapril" wrote:
    "HEY" wrote:
    Thank you so much for sharing that!
    It was really interesting. Kinda cool that Peterson's high school coach is his RB coach in NFL.
    Vikings' RB coach, Bienemy, must be good considering that Chester Taylor, a nobody, came to Minnesota and had a pro bowl like season. Plus, how Mewelde Moore has grown as a player.
    They weren't together in High School!

    Bienemy was at UCLA as a RB coach.
    He tried to recruit AD.


    AD went to OK.
    They were reunited at MN when Bienemy was recruiting (draft) him once more, they were in contact before the draft.
    Bienemy always wanted to work with AD.
    ___________

    CT isn't really a nobody.
    I think that people definitely see his talent.
    He must be the only RB in history to be trapped behind this stat:


    On the team with Jamal Lewis when he ran for 295 yards in one game against Cleveland.
    On the team with Peterson when he fan for 296 yards in one game against the Chargers.

    I hope he gets his ring with us.
    The guy is a team player.
    ___________

    I am a bit in wonder about ADs yards this season. I was hoping that our passing game would open it up for him, seems to have had an opposite effect.
    Teams want BF to pass and tire him out by the end of the season or make mistakes.....?
    There is a reason that BF is having a "great statistical" year.
    High passer rating, high completion percentage and low INTs. AD is opening it up for BF.
    BF is playing awesome, don't get me wrong.
    It is a combo of the two that is making BF's stats slightly better.
    AD is not getting the stats reciprocated because he is "the" threat.

    Has AD lost a step?
    Does it seem he is getting caught from behind?
    I might just be delusional.


    Even with that said, he is still on pace to get 1400 yards which is more than the 1341 his rookie season, but less than the 1760 yards from last year.
    AD is on pace to top his receiving yards from previous seasons, he should finish with 400 yards.

    Average/Rush Yds
    2009

    4.8
    2008

    4.8
    2007

    5.6

    He had so many big plays his rookie season.
    His avg/rcpt was 14.1 yds compared to this season at 9.9 yds.

    Check out his stats:
    http://www.nfl.com/players/adrianpet...e?id=PET260705

    Do you think that the coaching is helping other than maybe keeping him focused?
    I'm not saying that Chester Taylor is a nobody. That is far from the truth!
    I have always liked Chester Taylor and he's one of my favorite players on the team. I said that he WAS a nobody. Well, I was kinda brutal in my statement, but what I ment to say is that Chester was not excactly a household name before his first season with the Vikings.

    He was undrafted and he was a backup for the Ravens for 4 season. The season before he was signed with the Vikings, Chester had no rushing TD's and under 500 rushing yards.

    In his first season with the Vikings, Chester started all the games and winded up with 1 216 rushing yards and 6 TD's, and made his mark in the history book with a 95 TD run. I think you would agree that his break-out-year was in his first season with the Vikings.

    I like you're take on the Brett Favre effect. Everybody thought that Brett Favre would open up bigger holes for Adrian, but that has not happened. The opposing teams still fear Adrian Peterson more than Brett Favre, and that is the reason why Brett Favre is having the best season of his life. On top of that, Brett Favre is perhaps even taking a few snaps from Adrian Peterson.
    I can understand why that is. Brett Favre is indeed a great quarterback and why not use one when we finally have one, right?

    I'm not worried about Adrian Peterson's stats. They are still the best rushing stats in the NFL this season. He has a 4.8 average per carry and 9 rushing TD's. I'm very happy about the number of touchdowns because there were complains about him not getting into the end-zone, this season he's proving them wrong.

    It never crossed my mind that Adrian Peterson has lost a step, and when I think of his runs this year, I can't say why I should. He looks still as fast this season as he did last season if you ask me.

    He has not made many of those long runs as he did in his previous seasons, but I don't think that's anything to worry about. Sometimes the opportunity is simply not there.

    Here are some stats on Adrian Peterson to prove my point:

    Year



    Team






    G
    Att

    Att/G
    Yds

    Avg
    Yds/G
    TD
    Lng
    1st
    1st%
    20+
    40+

    2009 Minnesota Vikings

    8
    163

    20.4

    784

    4.8

    98.0

    9

    64T
    39
    23.9

    8


    2

    2008 Minnesota Vikings
    16
    363
    22.7
    1,760
    4.8
    110.0
    10
    67T
    81
    22.3

    20

    4

    2007 Minnesota Vikings
    14
    238
    17.0
    1,341
    5.6
    95.8

    12
    73T
    62
    26.1

    11

    5

    1. You'll see that Peterson has went down a couple of attempts per game since last season (the coaches gave a lot attempts to Chester Taylor in Adrian's rookie season because... well, Adrian was untested and a rookie).

    2. Adrian is still having the same excellent average per carry as he did last season (Adrian was not feared as much in his rookie season and therefore, the opposing teams did not focus as much at Adrian as they do now).

    3. Adrian is only half-way through the season and he needs only one TD to tie the total number of TD's he had last season. Where's the drop off?

    4. Adrian had an amazing 20 runs on 20+ yards last season. Adrian has 8 runs so far. He's not far behind.







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    To answere you're question: "Do you think that the coaching is helping other than maybe keeping him focused?"
    I have no idea what the coaching staff is doing, but I can imagine that they teach him the system in-and-out and give him various tips on how to play the game. Adrian Peterson may be the best in the NFL, but there's always something new to learn. The only thing I actually know is that they wanted Peterson to be more patient to set up the blockers.

    I wish they made the next Hard Knocks about the Vikings. I love the inside information on what's going on in the minds of the players and how they prepare for the season

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    Re: Mentoring AP

    By the way ... just to clear it up ... Peterson is on pace for 1,500 yards ... not 1,400 ... and he also has the EXACT same average as last season.

    It is just with the way defenses are playing they are throwing more so his carries are down. We also have more faith in the passing game ... which leads to less carries.

    The most important thing I see with AP is that they are trying very hard to get him involved in the passing game and he is starting to make HUGE plays in that aspect. With that being the case he only becomes an even more dominant weapon than he already is.

    Make no mistake. Brett Favre is doing everything almost perfectly with what the defenses are doing against us ... but Adrian Peterson is still the best weapon in the NFL.

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    "midgensa" wrote:
    By the way ... just to clear it up ... Peterson is on pace for 1,500 yards ... not 1,400 ... and he also has the EXACT same average as last season.

    It is just with the way defenses are playing they are throwing more so his carries are down. We also have more faith in the passing game ... which leads to less carries.

    The most important thing I see with AP is that they are trying very hard to get him involved in the passing game and he is starting to make HUGE plays in that aspect. With that being the case he only becomes an even more dominant weapon than he already is.

    Make no mistake. Brett Favre is doing everything almost perfectly with what the defenses are doing against us ... but Adrian Peterson is still the best weapon in the NFL.
    That's what I was talking about. Exactly what I was trying to say.

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