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    Consider this, Ponder was a bottom third quarterback in the NFL last season. He was the absolute worst throwing 15+ yards. Other teams, with better quarterbacks, made moves to get better at that position. The Vikings brought in Matt Cassel - the quarterback with the worst QB rating in the league in 2012.

    Also consider that Ponder and Jay Culter had similar seasons. Ponder had a better short game, and Culter had a better long game, but they ended up with a nearly identical QB rating. Sam Bradford was negligibly better, and both Matthew Stafford and Andrew Luck put up lots of yards but were less efficient and had worse QB ratings than Ponder. I doubt their respective teams are giving up on them, yet.

    There are many knocks on Ponder, but his inability to hit moving targets beyond the sticks is really the only thing that cannot be improved upon with experience. If Ponder cannot make those throws on target consistently, which he has not so far in his NFL career, he is done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minniman View Post
    There are many knocks on Ponder, but his inability to hit moving targets beyond the sticks is really the only thing that cannot be improved upon with experience. If Ponder cannot make those throws on target consistently, which he has not so far in his NFL career, he is done.
    And isn't that an important aspect in the WCO? Making quick decisive throws to moving targets? 2 things Ponder struggles with.

    AD doesn't fit the WCO offense either come to think of it, he's not a very good receiver or blocker, again 2 important things for a back in the WCO. Not to mention isn't the short passing game there to substitute for a strong running game? That doesn't sound like our offense at all. Does Frazier know what the WCO is? Because we're certainly not running the Air Coryell version of the WCO lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reignman View Post
    AD doesn't fit the WCO offense either come to think of it, he's not a very good receiver or blocker, again 2 important things for a back in the WCO. Not to mention isn't the short passing game there to substitute for a strong running game? That doesn't sound like our offense at all. Does Frazier know what the WCO is? Because we're certainly not running the Air Coryell version of the WCO lol.
    I have been saying that since we drafted AP. I have contended if we put him in the I formation with a FB and went to a coryell syle offense similar to what Dallas used to run, like the Steelers, Redskins, and Chargers etc that would be the perfect for for the team and for AP.

    Kick Ponder to the curb and bring in Rivers or a QB that can hit the deep pass and we could be elite on offense again.

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    McLeod Bethel-Thompson works to refine his touch

    Vikings No. 3 QB trying to prove he belongs | Star Tribune

    "If at first you don't succeed, parachuting is not for you"

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    It's a shame that there's no developmental league for the NFL. It would be great to have someone like MBT actually playing in games in offseason to see if he could develop a bit, but honestly, I don't see how he possibly could as a third QB. Nobody hits you in practice, and without that I don't see how you could develop pocket presence, which is probably the most underrated aspect of being a QB.

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    2 Scoring drives in the first half.

    He is the best looking QB on the team right now.

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    He's out there throwing DOTS!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Culpepper_4717 View Post
    He's out there throwing DOTS!!!

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    MBT has got some talent, he just needs a chance. I'd love to see him get some reps with the first team offense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Moss View Post
    All three of those players were good though. Romo was good in college, Moon was good in Canada, Kurt Warner was really good in the Arena league. MBT wasn't even a starter in the UFL and wasn't even good in the Arena League.
    Moon was discriminated against IMHO. He was a known item in College. He had to go to Canada. He had the talent but that was the era of football where the color of your skin determined whether or not you were able to play QB.

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