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    Re: Looking back: Viking's 2006 Draft

    I was very happy we picked Greenway over Bobby Carpenter but I really wanted to trade up to get Sims. Looks like it doesn't matter now, Greenway is almost a borderline Pro Bowl-caliber player

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    Re: Looking back: Viking's 2006 Draft

    Ray Edwards is underrated.
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    Re: Looking back: Viking's 2006 Draft

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    Ray Edwards is underrated.

    Agreed

    Good at everything.. Not great at anything

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    Re: Looking back: Viking's 2006 Draft

    "Formo" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Great idea for a thread.

    Poor Cook.
    Still getting hacked on.
    Anyone notice how he came if for Hutch in the Rams game on short down and distance when we needed to push and Hutch's back injury wouldn't allow it?

    Didn't think so.


    Anyway, will he be a Pro-bowl OLmen?
    Probably not, but he is arguably one hell of a backup.

    As for TJ..........I've put this in several posts, but think it applies here again........

    [s]QB 1
    Matt Leinart SR 6-5/217/- USC Santa Ana, CA[/s]
    [s]QB 2
    Vince Young JR 6-5/233/- Texas Houston, TX[/s]
    [s]QB 3
    Jay Cutler SR 6-4/225/- Vanderbilt Lincoln City, IN[/s]
    QB 4
    Brodie Croyle SR 6-2.5/206/- Alabama Rainbow City, AL
    QB 5
    Charlie Whitehurst SR 6-4/215/4.75 Clemson Alpharetta, GA
    [s]QB 6
    Kellen Clemens SR 6-2/218/- Oregon Burns, OR[/s]
    QB 7
    Omar Jacobs JR 6-4/210/- Bowling Green Delray Beach, FL
    QB 8
    Ingle Martin SR 6-3/219/- Furman Nashville, TN
    QB 9
    Darrell Hackney SR 6-1/230/- UAB Atlanta, GA
    QB 10
    Reggie McNeal SR 6-2/206/- Texas A&M Lufkin, TX
    QB 11
    Bruce Gradkowski SR 6-2/210/- Toledo Pittsburgh, PA
    QB 12
    D.J. Shockley SR 6-1/206/- Georgia College Park, GA
    QB 13
    Brett Basanez SR 6-2/210/- Northwestern Arlington Hts, IL
    QB 14
    Erik Meyer SR 6-2/210/- Eastern Washington La Mirada, CA
    QB 15
    Paul Pinegar SR 6-4/220/- Fresno State Woodland, CA
    QB 16
    Travaris Jackson SR -/-/- Alabama State

    Other than Cutler, and I know at least one cat on here doesn't like him (Z), I think we got the best of the lot in that draft.

    Taking alook at how each of them that went ahead of him has played, was 2 third round choices really that expensive considering what was available?

    Again, great thread.
    ;D

    Cook is getting hacked on because he shouldn't have been drafted where he was.
    Nor should have been moved to T.
    And because you love him.
    =)

    I'm more mad that he was picked over those other guys..
    Seriously.
    Ohhhhhh myyyyy goooooodnessssss,

    Your gonna hack on a player for cripes sake for were he was picked.
    I suppose your gonna come with something along the lines that Cook told the Vikings staff were to pick him.

    Comeon My Farvish Friend.
    We all know that Foley screwed the pooch on that draft.
    Only reason he was half way successfull was because the scouting staff identified players that fit the scheme.

    Stupid yutz needed to only take them when/where they should have come off the board.

    Blaming the player for were he was drafted, now I've heard everything.
    WOW.
    :

    And I don't "Love" him by the way.
    I just find it ludicrous that fans take a limited view on players that are put in situations like this and hack on a kid that is out there doing his best.
    Not his fault the coaches put him out there.
    Kindof like STJ this year.
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    Re: Looking back: Viking's 2006 Draft

    "V" wrote:
    Ray Edwards is underrated.
    He is only underrated by chuckleheads who don't understand the position and judge success/impact only on "Sacks".

    Those kindof cats never really get very far up the spread sheet my friend.
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    Re: Looking back: Viking's 2006 Draft

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "V" wrote:
    Ray Edwards is underrated.
    He is only underrated by chuckleheads who don't understand the position and judge success/impact only on "Sacks".

    Those kindof cats never really get very far up the spread sheet my friend.

    well, he's average against the run, which is a key attribute for LDE's.
    He's not a good pass rusher, despite what records he claimed he would break.
    he's about as average as they come.
    He doesn't get alot of hurries, he doesn't pressure the QB much, He's not a great run defender.
    Tell me, what does he do well?

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    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Great idea for a thread.

    Poor Cook.
    Still getting hacked on.
    Anyone notice how he came if for Hutch in the Rams game on short down and distance when we needed to push and Hutch's back injury wouldn't allow it?

    Didn't think so.


    Anyway, will he be a Pro-bowl OLmen?
    Probably not, but he is arguably one hell of a backup.

    As for TJ..........I've put this in several posts, but think it applies here again........

    [s]QB 1
    Matt Leinart SR 6-5/217/- USC Santa Ana, CA[/s]
    [s]QB 2
    Vince Young JR 6-5/233/- Texas Houston, TX[/s]
    [s]QB 3
    Jay Cutler SR 6-4/225/- Vanderbilt Lincoln City, IN[/s]
    QB 4
    Brodie Croyle SR 6-2.5/206/- Alabama Rainbow City, AL
    QB 5
    Charlie Whitehurst SR 6-4/215/4.75 Clemson Alpharetta, GA
    [s]QB 6
    Kellen Clemens SR 6-2/218/- Oregon Burns, OR[/s]
    QB 7
    Omar Jacobs JR 6-4/210/- Bowling Green Delray Beach, FL
    QB 8
    Ingle Martin SR 6-3/219/- Furman Nashville, TN
    QB 9
    Darrell Hackney SR 6-1/230/- UAB Atlanta, GA
    QB 10
    Reggie McNeal SR 6-2/206/- Texas A&M Lufkin, TX
    QB 11
    Bruce Gradkowski SR 6-2/210/- Toledo Pittsburgh, PA
    QB 12
    D.J. Shockley SR 6-1/206/- Georgia College Park, GA
    QB 13
    Brett Basanez SR 6-2/210/- Northwestern Arlington Hts, IL
    QB 14
    Erik Meyer SR 6-2/210/- Eastern Washington La Mirada, CA
    QB 15
    Paul Pinegar SR 6-4/220/- Fresno State Woodland, CA
    QB 16
    Travaris Jackson SR -/-/- Alabama State

    Other than Cutler, and I know at least one cat on here doesn't like him (Z), I think we got the best of the lot in that draft.


    Taking alook at how each of them that went ahead of him has played, was 2 third round choices really that expensive considering what was available?

    Again, great thread.
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    Re: Looking back: Viking's 2006 Draft

    I think this was a poor draft. I loved the Greenway pick from the start. Thought the guy was an old school kinda linebacker and the position we got him in was great. Everything else was a reach. If i'm correct we then replaced the key person in charge of drafting(forgot the title) and we have improved since then.

    1) I don't think Cook is a poor player. I think he is an Average tackle(not something you want out of a 2nd round pick). He may have turned out to be an incredible C. However, this is a grade of the draft pick not the player. I have always felt that a 2nd round pick should project to be a starter and an eventual pro bowler.

    2) TJ - I have grown to love this guy. I don't hate him the player but I hate the draft pick( 2 #2s?) Why not take the 18th + a 2nd and trade up to snag Cutler?

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    Re: Looking back: Viking's 2006 Draft

    "kevoncox" wrote:
    I think this was a poor draft. I loved the Greenway pick from the start. Thought the guy was an old school kinda linebacker and the position we got him in was great. Everything else was a reach. If i'm correct we then replaced the key person in charge of drafting(forgot the title) and we have improved since then.

    1) I don't think Cook is a poor player. I think he is an Average tackle(not something you want out of a 2nd round pick). He may have turned out to be an incredible C. However, this is a grade of the draft pick not the player. I have always felt that a 2nd round pick should project to be a starter and an eventual pro bowler.

    2) TJ - I have grown to love this guy. I don't hate him the player but I hate the draft pick( 2 #2s?) Why not take the 18th + a 2nd and trade up to snag Cutler?
    2nd rounders can't all project to be pro bowlers.... the pure math on it all just doesn't work!

    I tend to agree that they should project as a starter in a year, though.
    I think 1st rounders you can probably gauge out as expecting a pro-bowl...
    but we have plenty of busts as well, obviously.

    As for TJ - we gave up 2 3rds not 2 2nds for him.
    Could we have packaged them +18th for Cutler?
    Perhaps.... not likely


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    Re: Looking back: Viking's 2006 Draft

    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "V" wrote:
    Ray Edwards is underrated.
    He is only underrated by chuckleheads who don't understand the position and judge success/impact only on "Sacks".

    Those kindof cats never really get very far up the spread sheet My Farvish Friend.

    well, he's average against the run, which is a key attribute for LDE's.
    He's not a good pass rusher, despite what records he claimed he would break.
    he's about as average as they come.

    He doesn't get alot of hurries, he doesn't pressure the QB much, He's not a great run defender.
    Tell me, what does he do well?
    Average against the run.......

    Better check the stats sheets my friend and see were he stacks up against DE's with tackles.

    By the by, did you see him blow that screen up last weekend.
    He does that all the time.

    Average my ass.
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