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    La Vikings Could you still be a Fan?

    I was discussing with the Wife How much I think rides on this season and the rumored possibilty of the Vikings moving to La. I live in Ca now but was Born and raised On Da Range! She said well that would work out well for you, they would be closer and you could get season tickets and fly down for the Home Games.

    I told her with a profanity laced explanation that, that would never happen.

    Just curious on your thought? Could you still be a Vikings Fan? I went through this in 92 with the North Stars , I was living just North of Dallas back then and I have never liked the Stars since. I'm Now a Huge Sharks Fan.

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    Purple Blood wrote:
    I was discussing with the Wife How much I think rides on this season and the rumored possibilty of the Vikings moving to La. I live in Ca now but was Born and raised On Da Range! She said well that would work out well for you, they would be closer and you could get season tickets and fly down for the Home Games.

    I told her with a profanity laced explanation that, that would never happen.

    Just curious on your thought? Could you still be a Vikings Fan? I went through this in 92 with the North Stars , I was living just North of Dallas back then and I have never liked the Stars since. I'm Now a Huge Sharks Fan.
    Said it before, I'll say it again. The day the Vikings organization leaves Minnesota is the day I cease being a fan of the Vikings. I will find another (Non-NFCN) team to cheer for, and happily buy up THEIR merchandise, haunt THEIR websites, and criticize THEIR coaches and players. But the Vikings will earn only hatred from that day forward.

    Truth is, Wilf could build the stadium with his own money - and the other truth is that the tax payers NEVER get back the value of the money they put into stadium deals. So if he elects to leavae he does so because HE chose to do so, not because he HAD to.

    Caine

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    Caine wrote:
    Purple Blood wrote:
    I was discussing with the Wife How much I think rides on this season and the rumored possibilty of the Vikings moving to La. I live in Ca now but was Born and raised On Da Range! She said well that would work out well for you, they would be closer and you could get season tickets and fly down for the Home Games.

    I told her with a profanity laced explanation that, that would never happen.

    Just curious on your thought? Could you still be a Vikings Fan? I went through this in 92 with the North Stars , I was living just North of Dallas back then and I have never liked the Stars since. I'm Now a Huge Sharks Fan.
    Said it before, I'll say it again. The day the Vikings organization leaves Minnesota is the day I cease being a fan of the Vikings. I will find another (Non-NFCN) team to cheer for, and happily buy up THEIR merchandise, haunt THEIR websites, and criticize THEIR coaches and players. But the Vikings will earn only hatred from that day forward.

    Truth is, Wilf could build the stadium with his own money - and the other truth is that the tax payers NEVER get back the value of the money they put into stadium deals. So if he elects to leavae he does so because HE chose to do so, not because he HAD to.

    Caine
    That is false.

    Second part is probably true though.

    That new Twins stadium sure is a hit. Too bad it wasn't funded entirely by the owner. Evil politicians spent tax payer dollars on a stadium! *gasp!

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    Re:La Vikings Could you still be a Fan?

    no
    Why must you defend everything this FO does....to the point of making your self look like a yes man.

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    Re:La Vikings Could you still be a Fan?

    BloodyHorns82 wrote:
    Caine wrote:
    Purple Blood wrote:
    I was discussing with the Wife How much I think rides on this season and the rumored possibilty of the Vikings moving to La. I live in Ca now but was Born and raised On Da Range! She said well that would work out well for you, they would be closer and you could get season tickets and fly down for the Home Games.

    I told her with a profanity laced explanation that, that would never happen.

    Just curious on your thought? Could you still be a Vikings Fan? I went through this in 92 with the North Stars , I was living just North of Dallas back then and I have never liked the Stars since. I'm Now a Huge Sharks Fan.
    Said it before, I'll say it again. The day the Vikings organization leaves Minnesota is the day I cease being a fan of the Vikings. I will find another (Non-NFCN) team to cheer for, and happily buy up THEIR merchandise, haunt THEIR websites, and criticize THEIR coaches and players. But the Vikings will earn only hatred from that day forward.

    Truth is, Wilf could build the stadium with his own money - and the other truth is that the tax payers NEVER get back the value of the money they put into stadium deals. So if he elects to leavae he does so because HE chose to do so, not because he HAD to.

    Caine
    That is false.

    Second part is probably true though.

    That new Twins stadium sure is a hit. Too bad it wasn't funded entirely by the owner. Evil politicians spent tax payer dollars on a stadium! *gasp!
    We really don't know if Wilf could do it on his own or not.

    I don't think how we do this season will have much of an impact on whether the Vikings get public financing. I think bigger factors will be the economy, many see the worst of the recession still ahead. Even bigger than that my be the collective bargaining agreement. If there is a strike I don't see public financing any time soon. If the owners get what they want I don't see public financing any time soon(from what I have read the 60/40 split with players getting 60% of revenue could be reversed giving wilf about 40million extra dollars a season of profit)

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    Re:La Vikings Could you still be a Fan?

    It depends on if the colors and logos change. If things change then NO. If they say the same, yes.

    I might follow them since they are closer to me but it might just be easier to roll with the Cardinals.

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    Re:La Vikings Could you still be a Fan?

    jmcdon00 wrote:
    We really don't know if Wilf could do it on his own or not.
    No we don't know. His net worth is estimated at 1.3 billion. A new stadium runs about 1 billion. Not looking promising for a self financed stadium, but again we really don't know the truth or all the details. For a scrub like you or I to stand back and declare one way or the other as fact is ridiculous.

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    Re:La Vikings Could you still be a Fan?

    BloodyHorns82 wrote:
    jmcdon00 wrote:
    We really don't know if Wilf could do it on his own or not.
    No we don't know. His net worth is estimated at 1.3 billion. A new stadium runs about 1 billion. Not looking promising for a self financed stadium, but again we really don't know the truth or all the details. For a scrub like you or I to stand back and declare one way or the other as fact is ridiculous.
    Wilf isn't the only owner of the Vikings and its hard to say what he would do if some of his partners chose to bailout on the venture if he would buy them out or just sell his portion of the team......to an interested party in LA

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    Re:La Vikings Could you still be a Fan?

    vikinggreg wrote:
    BloodyHorns82 wrote:
    jmcdon00 wrote:
    We really don't know if Wilf could do it on his own or not.
    No we don't know. His net worth is estimated at 1.3 billion. A new stadium runs about 1 billion. Not looking promising for a self financed stadium, but again we really don't know the truth or all the details. For a scrub like you or I to stand back and declare one way or the other as fact is ridiculous.
    Wilf isn't the only owner of the Vikings and its hard to say what he would do if some of his partners chose to bailout on the venture if he would buy them out or just sell his portion of the team......to an interested party in LA
    That brings up another good point.

    Wilf partnered up with a group of people and ponied up a 600 million dollar investment on an NFL team. Some people think that this same group can double down on their investment now and throw another 1.2 Billion at it? That's not chump change for anybody. It's not like this 1.2B investment is going to increase their annual profits by 66 percent.

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    BloodyHorns82 wrote:
    Caine wrote:
    Purple Blood wrote:
    I was discussing with the Wife How much I think rides on this season and the rumored possibilty of the Vikings moving to La. I live in Ca now but was Born and raised On Da Range! She said well that would work out well for you, they would be closer and you could get season tickets and fly down for the Home Games.

    I told her with a profanity laced explanation that, that would never happen.

    Just curious on your thought? Could you still be a Vikings Fan? I went through this in 92 with the North Stars , I was living just North of Dallas back then and I have never liked the Stars since. I'm Now a Huge Sharks Fan.
    Said it before, I'll say it again. The day the Vikings organization leaves Minnesota is the day I cease being a fan of the Vikings. I will find another (Non-NFCN) team to cheer for, and happily buy up THEIR merchandise, haunt THEIR websites, and criticize THEIR coaches and players. But the Vikings will earn only hatred from that day forward.

    Truth is, Wilf could build the stadium with his own money - and the other truth is that the tax payers NEVER get back the value of the money they put into stadium deals. So if he elects to leavae he does so because HE chose to do so, not because he HAD to.

    Caine
    That is false.

    Second part is probably true though.

    That new Twins stadium sure is a hit. Too bad it wasn't funded entirely by the owner. Evil politicians spent tax payer dollars on a stadium! *gasp!
    Before you start throwing stones, have you EVER bothered to actually LOOK a the financing of Stadiums, and how it actually works out for the communities who do so?

    Fact of the matter is, the communities take out huge loans, push them waaaaaay back, then hope like hell inflation catches up so it doesn't hurt quite so much.

    Here's an interesting article about the Marlin's stadium in Miami: http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-marlinsfinancials082410

    Go ahead and tell me how BS that one is...

    Truth is, Wilf and his owners group put up quite a large amount for the franchise...it stands to reason that they could obtain financing on their own, or at the very least, put up the major portion of the costs.

    But they don't. They, like every franchise before them, pushes it off on the public. And, sadly, the public never actually sees a return on their investment.

    Here's an article about THAT: http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/?id=35549

    and another: http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/25167

    and another: http://www.dailyrepublican.com/stadium-understated-cost.html

    and another: http://www.examiner.com/padres-in-san-diego/say-no-to-publicly-funded-stadiums

    and without even trying hard I can post link after link.

    Got anything to back up YOUR side?

    Caine

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