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    Re: KWILL AND PWILL SUSPENSIONS BLOCKED

    "kspurplepride" wrote:
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    Yeah, agreed...until the case it closed by the NFL (Roger the Dodger), we just have to wait and see. I hate having this hanging over their heads.
    not true, it all comes down to what they rule in state court since it was thrown out in federal. If the judge decides to rule in favor of the Williams wall Roger will be pressed to drop it

    I doubt that Goodell would let it drop...he'd probably appeal the ruling by the state court. He's a man who can't be made to look bad. And as long as it goes on, their heads are on the block.
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    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    I think Kevin and Pat both have to be very careful on and off the field. Give the league a different reason to suspend them, and they probably will. My guess is the league is pissed about the whole thing. The league made the ruling and then Kevin and Pat went outside the league to the courts.

    I am in the minority that I would rather see them suspended later in the season, if at all. The Vikings have a recent history of starting slow and they need a good start this year, because the schedule gets tough. Anytime we play the Packers it has extra importance, because they are our biggest rival. This year it's gonna be more important than ever because Favre is here, playing at home on Monday night with the whole country watching is gonna be big. I'm sure for the coaches a win is a win but for me, I'd trade 2 losses to the afc for 1 win against the packers.

    Another reason I would rather have suspensions later is that the Williamson should be 100% ready to go week one, by week 8 they will probably be tired and dinged up. They can use the suspension to get back to 100%. If we can get to week 12 or so with the division lead and then we get 2 dominate players at the same time both well rested and 100% it could give us a lot of confidence heading into the playoffs.

    I agree 100% with that...although unethical in theory, IMO it is definitely sitting right there in Goodell's mind.
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    Re: KWILL AND PWILL SUSPENSIONS BLOCKED

    I am sorry to say this:

    Goodell has been acting like a communist dictator since he took on the NFL.

    That's how I feel: Fine after fine, BS after BS.

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    Re: KWILL AND PWILL SUSPENSIONS BLOCKED

    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    I think Kevin and Pat both have to be very careful on and off the field. Give the league a different reason to suspend them, and they probably will. My guess is the league is pissed about the whole thing. The league made the ruling and then Kevin and Pat went outside the league to the courts.

    I am in the minority that I would rather see them suspended later in the season, if at all. The Vikings have a recent history of starting slow and they need a good start this year, because the schedule gets tough. Anytime we play the Packers it has extra importance, because they are our biggest rival. This year it's gonna be more important than ever because Favre is here, playing at home on Monday night with the whole country watching is gonna be big. I'm sure for the coaches a win is a win but for me, I'd trade 2 losses to the afc for 1 win against the packers.

    Another reason I would rather have suspensions later is that the Williamson should be 100% ready to go week one, by week 8 they will probably be tired and dinged up. They can use the suspension to get back to 100%. If we can get to week 12 or so with the division lead and then we get 2 dominate players at the same time both well rested and 100% it could give us a lot of confidence heading into the playoffs.
    Your forgetting our second most recent trend of starting strong and playing like shit the rest of the season.
    Without P&K in there, thats a very real possiblilty again.

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    Re: KWILL AND PWILL SUSPENSIONS BLOCKED

    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    I think Kevin and Pat both have to be very careful on and off the field. Give the league a different reason to suspend them, and they probably will. My guess is the league is pissed about the whole thing. The league made the ruling and then Kevin and Pat went outside the league to the courts.

    I am in the minority that I would rather see them suspended later in the season, if at all. The Vikings have a recent history of starting slow and they need a good start this year, because the schedule gets tough. Anytime we play the Packers it has extra importance, because they are our biggest rival. This year it's gonna be more important than ever because Favre is here, playing at home on Monday night with the whole country watching is gonna be big. I'm sure for the coaches a win is a win but for me, I'd trade 2 losses to the afc for 1 win against the packers.

    Another reason I would rather have suspensions later is that the Williamson should be 100% ready to go week one, by week 8 they will probably be tired and dinged up. They can use the suspension to get back to 100%. If we can get to week 12 or so with the division lead and then we get 2 dominate players at the same time both well rested and 100% it could give us a lot of confidence heading into the playoffs.
    Your forgetting our second most recent trend of starting strong and playing like shit the rest of the season.
    Without P&K in there, thats a very real possiblilty again.

    What about last year? Starting off like shit 0-2.. ALMOST 0-3

    And finishing strong

    Even without Pat

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    Re: KWILL AND PWILL SUSPENSIONS BLOCKED

    "V4L" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    I think Kevin and Pat both have to be very careful on and off the field. Give the league a different reason to suspend them, and they probably will. My guess is the league is pissed about the whole thing. The league made the ruling and then Kevin and Pat went outside the league to the courts.

    I am in the minority that I would rather see them suspended later in the season, if at all. The Vikings have a recent history of starting slow and they need a good start this year, because the schedule gets tough. Anytime we play the Packers it has extra importance, because they are our biggest rival. This year it's gonna be more important than ever because Favre is here, playing at home on Monday night with the whole country watching is gonna be big. I'm sure for the coaches a win is a win but for me, I'd trade 2 losses to the afc for 1 win against the packers.

    Another reason I would rather have suspensions later is that the Williamson should be 100% ready to go week one, by week 8 they will probably be tired and dinged up. They can use the suspension to get back to 100%. If we can get to week 12 or so with the division lead and then we get 2 dominate players at the same time both well rested and 100% it could give us a lot of confidence heading into the playoffs.
    Your forgetting our second most recent trend of starting strong and playing like shit the rest of the season.
    Without P&K in there, thats a very real possiblilty again.

    What about last year? Starting off like shit 0-2.. ALMOST 0-3

    And finishing strong

    Even without Pat
    Last year we finished with the Cards, Falcons, Lions and Giants backups.
    We squeaked out wins from the Lions and Giants, threw away the Falcons game and smoked the Cards.
    I woudln't call that finishing strong, thats getting lucky.

    This season we finish against the Bengals, Panthers Bears and Giants.
    I'd expect the Bears to play us very tough, Giants might be a repeat of last season, Panthers will probably be playing for a playoff spot and who knows about the Bengals.
    We could go 4-0 then, but just as easilly go 0-4.
    I'm not comfortable at all going into that game without at least one of them.

    Which leads me to my next though.. what if Kevin accepted his suspension now, while Pat fought his, and once Kevin's done, pat accepts his suspension, that way we don't miss both at the same time, just one at a time.

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    Re: KWILL AND PWILL SUSPENSIONS BLOCKED

    "V4L" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    I think Kevin and Pat both have to be very careful on and off the field. Give the league a different reason to suspend them, and they probably will. My guess is the league is pissed about the whole thing. The league made the ruling and then Kevin and Pat went outside the league to the courts.

    I am in the minority that I would rather see them suspended later in the season, if at all. The Vikings have a recent history of starting slow and they need a good start this year, because the schedule gets tough. Anytime we play the Packers it has extra importance, because they are our biggest rival. This year it's gonna be more important than ever because Favre is here, playing at home on Monday night with the whole country watching is gonna be big. I'm sure for the coaches a win is a win but for me, I'd trade 2 losses to the afc for 1 win against the packers.

    Another reason I would rather have suspensions later is that the Williamson should be 100% ready to go week one, by week 8 they will probably be tired and dinged up. They can use the suspension to get back to 100%. If we can get to week 12 or so with the division lead and then we get 2 dominate players at the same time both well rested and 100% it could give us a lot of confidence heading into the playoffs.
    Your forgetting our second most recent trend of starting strong and playing like shit the rest of the season.
    Without P&K in there, thats a very real possiblilty again.

    What about last year? Starting off like shit 0-2.. ALMOST 0-3

    And finishing strong

    Even without Pat
    also, don't forget

    6-0 start, 9-7 finish
    5-1 start, 8-8 finish
    2-0 start, 6-10 finish

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    Re: KWILL AND PWILL SUSPENSIONS BLOCKED

    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "V4L" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    I think Kevin and Pat both have to be very careful on and off the field. Give the league a different reason to suspend them, and they probably will. My guess is the league is pissed about the whole thing. The league made the ruling and then Kevin and Pat went outside the league to the courts.

    I am in the minority that I would rather see them suspended later in the season, if at all. The Vikings have a recent history of starting slow and they need a good start this year, because the schedule gets tough. Anytime we play the Packers it has extra importance, because they are our biggest rival. This year it's gonna be more important than ever because Favre is here, playing at home on Monday night with the whole country watching is gonna be big. I'm sure for the coaches a win is a win but for me, I'd trade 2 losses to the afc for 1 win against the packers.

    Another reason I would rather have suspensions later is that the Williamson should be 100% ready to go week one, by week 8 they will probably be tired and dinged up. They can use the suspension to get back to 100%. If we can get to week 12 or so with the division lead and then we get 2 dominate players at the same time both well rested and 100% it could give us a lot of confidence heading into the playoffs.
    Your forgetting our second most recent trend of starting strong and playing like shit the rest of the season.
    Without P&K in there, thats a very real possiblilty again.

    What about last year? Starting off like shit 0-2.. ALMOST 0-3

    And finishing strong

    Even without Pat
    Last year we finished with the Cards, Falcons, Lions and Giants backups.
    We squeaked out wins from the Lions and Giants, threw away the Falcons game and smoked the Cards.
    I woudln't call that finishing strong, thats getting lucky.

    This season we finish against the Bengals, Panthers Bears and Giants.
    I'd expect the Bears to play us very tough, Giants might be a repeat of last season, Panthers will probably be playing for a playoff spot and who knows about the Bengals.
    We could go 4-0 then, but just as easilly go 0-4.
    I'm not comfortable at all going into that game without at least one of them.

    Which leads me to my next though.. what if Kevin accepted his suspension now, while Pat fought his, and once Kevin's done, pat accepts his suspension, that way we don't miss both at the same time, just one at a time.

    What about the 0-2 start?

    And getting lucky to get the first win

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    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "V4L" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    I think Kevin and Pat both have to be very careful on and off the field. Give the league a different reason to suspend them, and they probably will. My guess is the league is pissed about the whole thing. The league made the ruling and then Kevin and Pat went outside the league to the courts.

    I am in the minority that I would rather see them suspended later in the season, if at all. The Vikings have a recent history of starting slow and they need a good start this year, because the schedule gets tough. Anytime we play the Packers it has extra importance, because they are our biggest rival. This year it's gonna be more important than ever because Favre is here, playing at home on Monday night with the whole country watching is gonna be big. I'm sure for the coaches a win is a win but for me, I'd trade 2 losses to the afc for 1 win against the packers.

    Another reason I would rather have suspensions later is that the Williamson should be 100% ready to go week one, by week 8 they will probably be tired and dinged up. They can use the suspension to get back to 100%. If we can get to week 12 or so with the division lead and then we get 2 dominate players at the same time both well rested and 100% it could give us a lot of confidence heading into the playoffs.
    Your forgetting our second most recent trend of starting strong and playing like shit the rest of the season.
    Without P&K in there, thats a very real possiblilty again.

    What about last year? Starting off like shit 0-2.. ALMOST 0-3

    And finishing strong

    Even without Pat
    also, don't forget

    6-0 start, 9-7 finish
    5-1 start, 8-8 finish
    2-0 start, 6-10 finish

    Much different teams

    And new coach.. Well atleast for 1 of the years

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    Re: KWILL AND PWILL SUSPENSIONS BLOCKED

    "V4L" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "V4L" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    I think Kevin and Pat both have to be very careful on and off the field. Give the league a different reason to suspend them, and they probably will. My guess is the league is pissed about the whole thing. The league made the ruling and then Kevin and Pat went outside the league to the courts.

    I am in the minority that I would rather see them suspended later in the season, if at all. The Vikings have a recent history of starting slow and they need a good start this year, because the schedule gets tough. Anytime we play the Packers it has extra importance, because they are our biggest rival. This year it's gonna be more important than ever because Favre is here, playing at home on Monday night with the whole country watching is gonna be big. I'm sure for the coaches a win is a win but for me, I'd trade 2 losses to the afc for 1 win against the packers.

    Another reason I would rather have suspensions later is that the Williamson should be 100% ready to go week one, by week 8 they will probably be tired and dinged up. They can use the suspension to get back to 100%. If we can get to week 12 or so with the division lead and then we get 2 dominate players at the same time both well rested and 100% it could give us a lot of confidence heading into the playoffs.
    Your forgetting our second most recent trend of starting strong and playing like shit the rest of the season.
    Without P&K in there, thats a very real possiblilty again.

    What about last year? Starting off like shit 0-2.. ALMOST 0-3

    And finishing strong

    Even without Pat
    Last year we finished with the Cards, Falcons, Lions and Giants backups.
    We squeaked out wins from the Lions and Giants, threw away the Falcons game and smoked the Cards.
    I woudln't call that finishing strong, thats getting lucky.

    This season we finish against the Bengals, Panthers Bears and Giants.
    I'd expect the Bears to play us very tough, Giants might be a repeat of last season, Panthers will probably be playing for a playoff spot and who knows about the Bengals.
    We could go 4-0 then, but just as easilly go 0-4.
    I'm not comfortable at all going into that game without at least one of them.

    Which leads me to my next though.. what if Kevin accepted his suspension now, while Pat fought his, and once Kevin's done, pat accepts his suspension, that way we don't miss both at the same time, just one at a time.

    What about the 0-2 start?

    And getting lucky to get the first win
    what about it?
    We started weak, the team didn't show up, we did well midseason, although inconsistent.
    We finished decently, despite some weak team efforts.
    I'd much rather pull a NYG, start out like shit, then get hot right in time for playoffs and win the superbowl, than a NE Pats, go 16-0 and choke at the end.

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