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    Re: *Koren Robinson Thread*

    "Rastak" wrote:
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    the contract does protect the team in case he gets into more off-the-field issues.
    I keep reading that but what the heck does it actually mean...the local scribes should get the details.
    You would think that the consequences to the team would be a front page item after it became almost certain that Robinson will be suspended.
    It must be nestled within one of the articles, but the incompetence of most sports journalists never ceases to amaze me.

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    Vikings | Police and courts: K. Robinson
    Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:34:27 -0700

    Judd Zulgad, of the Star Tribune, reports Minnesota Vikings WR Koren Robinson will have to go before a judge in Kirkland, Wash, before he appears in a local county courthouse in October. The court administrator in Kirkland said Monday, Aug. 21, that Robinson has a Sept. 26 date set for a judge to rule whether he violated the terms of his probation last week when he engaged in a high-speed chase with police officers from Mankato, North Mankato and St. Peter as well as Blue Earth County. The court administrator said no judge has been assigned to the case yet. Robinson is expected to have to attend the hearing. Robinson's future with the Vikings remains uncertain. He hasn't returned to the team since his arrest late last Tuesday night, Aug. 15. "I'm still gathering," head coach Brad Childress said Monday when asked about Robinson. "There is a little bit more information that I need to have."


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    I really want to feel sorry for this guy...he seemed so honest and sincere...

    but then I think of everything he has actually done over the past few years... we have to cut him and cut him as fast as possible

    "I choose my company by the beating of their hearts, not the swelling of their heads"

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    Re: *Koren Robinson Thread*

    Hey Ziggy and Brad, can you sign Donnie Edwards to shut Cajunvike up!
    lol just kidding
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    Re: *Koren Robinson Thread*

    Please post link to story next time.

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    Actually anything the Vikes put into the contract regarding protection from off-the-field issues is voided by the new CBA. A team cannot force those terms on a player, regardless of whether he accepted them when signing the contract or not. At the very least it will be a precedent-setting arbitration when it comes to the Vikes trying to recover the money they already invested and/or avoiding paying Koren any more.

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    http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/NFL_Czar/2006/08/21/Smart_contract_writing

    It’s always tough losing a talented player like receiver Koren Robinson, but the Minnesota Vikings wrote a contract for him that definitely took into account any chances for an alcohol-induced relapse, something that occurred last week.

    I’ve always thought that the club’s contract writer, vice president of football operations Rob Brzezinski, was pretty sharp and he proved it once again by not giving Robinson any guaranteed money or a signing bonus.
    Koren Robinson enters court.

    Consequently, none of the new provisions in the collective bargaining agreement should be a factor in getting their money back. Also, they don’t owe him any future payments. Remember, it was Brzezinski who fashioned the impossible-to-match language that got All-Pro guard Steve Hutchinson out of Seattle.

    A year ago at this time, new owner Zygi Wilf wanted to show the players that he was dumping the tight-wallet approach that suited Red McCombs, the previous owner. Quarterback Daunte Culpepper, who signed a bad contract with the Vikings, wanted more money and Wilf acquiesced. This time around Wilf and the Vikings were much smarter.

    Minnesota gave Robinson, who actually made the Pro Bowl last season as a kick returner, a $1 million roster bonus when he signed in March. But the bonus had a forfeiture clause for alcohol-drug related offenses. The key point here is that there aren’t any restrictions on forfeiture language on roster bonuses like there are on signing bonuses in the new CBA. The Robinson contract language for the 2007 and 2008 seasons is exactly the same.

    Robinson was to receive $81,250 per each game he was on the active roster this season. The Vikings, however, were actually willing to guarantee for injury all of the weekly roster bonuses, something he won’t see now, though. The Vikings have a great case to recoup the $1 million roster bonus if they choose to do so.

    And Robinson has no one but himself to blame on this one. The sad part is that he is very talented. It’s why the Seahawks, who drafted him as a first-rounder, gave him numerous opportunities to clean up his act.


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    "Benet" wrote:
    Actually anything the Vikes put into the contract regarding protection from off-the-field issues is voided by the new CBA. A team cannot force those terms on a player, regardless of whether he accepted them when signing the contract or not. At the very least it will be a precedent-setting arbitration when it comes to the Vikes trying to recover the money they already invested and/or avoiding paying Koren any more.
    Please post the portion of the CBA that voids language in contracts agreed to by players and their team. I don't see how any legal contract that is willingly signed by the player and team can be voided by the Player's Union.

    Here's a link to the article which gives the numbers I posted earlier.

    http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/s...ll/15291082.htm


    "The Vikings did, however, protect themselves in negotiating Robinson's three-year, $12.7 million contract in March. The Vikings have paid Robinson $1.1 million, between an upfront roster bonus and a workout bonus. His $600,000 base salary for this season and beyond, as well as in-season roster bonuses are not guaranteed. That means the Vikings are not responsible for the remaining $11.6 million of Robinson's deal."
    I am a dipshit!!!

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    [size=10pt]Team waits for NFL action on Robinson[/size]

    http://www.startribune.com/510/story/627727.html

    Bound by NFL rules, the Vikings are awaiting guidance from the league to determine the future of receiver Koren Robinson.
    Robinson, charged last week with drunken driving and fleeing a police officer in St. Peter, has been excused from team activities since Aug. 17. Owner Zygi Wilf and coach Brad Childress have vowed to strengthen the team's off-field image, but the league's Collective Bargaining Agreement prevents them from releasing Robinson for disciplinary reasons.

    As a result, the Vikings seem prepared to wait for the NFL, which could issue a yearlong suspension under the terms of its substance abuse policy.

    Childress said Monday that he needs "a little more information" before knowing Robinson's long-term future. There is no known timetable for a league ruling.

    "We'll just see how the thing goes and how the situation takes care of itself," said Childress, who hasn't spoken with Robinson about the arrest. "We still need to let all of the municipalities weigh in. I need to hear from the NFL and the legal system."

    Robinson won't face any legal repercussions until next month at the earliest. Officials in Kirkland (Wash.) County are scheduling a court date to determine whether last week's arrest violated Robinson's probation as part of a July 2005 plea bargain for drunken driving.

    Robinson initially had a Sept. 26 hearing scheduled, but his attorneys filed a claim requesting a change so that Kirkland Municipal Court Commissioner Wayne Stewart would hear the case. The new court date should be scheduled by the end of the week, court supervisor Aimee Vance said.

    If he is found to have violated probation, Robinson faces up to 364 days in jail and $4,650 in fines. He also has an Oct. 17 court date scheduled in Nicollet County.

    Jackson remains No. 2

    During the portion of Monday's practice open to the media, rookie quarterback Tarvaris Jackson appeared to be working exclusively with the second-team offense while Mike McMahon worked with the third team. Childress does not appear to have given up on McMahon but hopes to see improvement during the remainder of the preseason.

    McMahon completed one of seven passes Saturday at Pittsburgh and has an 8.5 passer rating in two preseason games.

    "Obviously the numbers speak for themselves," Childress said. "I know he wishes he would have given a better account of himself. But he's still a good quarterback. He just needs to push, but he needs to play within a system, take care of the football and do the routine things for the team."

    Injury report

    Running back Mewelde Moore's left knee injury could keep him sidelined for at least another week. Childress said Moore "may" be ready for the Aug. 31 preseason finale at Dallas. Moore, who has not practiced since suffering the injury Aug. 14, is "marginal" for Friday's game against Baltimore.

    • Safety Willie Offord (right wrist) said he took part in all of Monday morning's practice but will undergo further tests today. Offord is wearing a soft cast on his wrist, which at the very least was badly sprained. The veteran backup is confident that no matter what the tests show he will be able to play Friday night against Baltimore.

    • Tight end Richard Owens (back contusion), receiver Kevin Kasper (ankle), linebacker Rod Davis (quadriceps contusion) and linebacker Marcus Lawrence (knee) sat out Monday.


    Staff writer Judd Zulgad contributed to this report.

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    Re: *Koren Robinson Thread*

    POSTED 9:42 p.m. EDT; LAST UPDATED 10:50 p.m. EDT, August 21, 2006
    K-ROB HEADING TO JAIL?

    Meanwhile, whether Koren Robinson's $1 million roster bonus is safe likely is taking a back seat to questions regarding K-Rob's ability to stay on the right side of prison bars.
    The Associated Press reports that Robinson will face a hearing in Washington as to whether and to what extent his recent actions in Minnesota constitute a violation of the terms of his 2005 probation (http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn...c.php?t=119555) resulting from a guilty plea to drunk driving charges.


    The hearing originally was set for September 26, but will be rescheduled.
    He faces up to 364 days in jail.

    And the kicker, as we've previously explained, is that Robinson already has been found to be in violation of the terms of his probation.
    He worked out a deal with prosecutors last year to perform 50 hours of community service due to two separate violations.
    We've got a feeling that, this time around, the prosecution and/or the judge won't be nearly as kind.


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