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    Re: Kluwe Speaks today

    "ejmat" wrote:
    "VikingMike" wrote:
    "ragz" wrote:
    "VikingMike" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    [quote author=NodakPaul link=topic=48416.msg849944#msg849944 date=1223554689]
    Post of the year.

    If Wilf interviewed 4 potential coaches after every game where our coaches sucked Northwest would have to add another route.

    How long before that joke of a coach is fired. Maybe Wilf will wait until Christmas Eve.
    What four potential coaches are there?
    Keep in mind that he cannot talk to any of the staff of any other teams, and most college coaches have monetary penalties for early withdrawal of contract.

    I want Childress gone at the end of the year too.
    I also want out ST to learn how to adjust, stay in their lanes, and freaking tackle.
    AND I want a punter who can aim.

    I don't like the way Childress criticized him publicly.
    I think Kluwe handled the situation with more class.
    But that doesn't take away from the fact that Kluwe is a major part of our ST, and he is struggling to get the job done as asked.
    So why is everybody up in arms about them bringing in 4 punters who likely don't stand a chance of replacing Kluwe anyway?


    People ask why they don't bring in TEs or LBs when they under perform.
    THEY DO!
    But we already have a pool of players at those position - its called the practice squad.
    They don't need to bring in additional ones when they want to explore options.

    Jesus, people complain if he doesn't do anything, and then they complain when he does something.

    Haven't been on much my friend, however, the little I read today, seems like you are a lone voice of reason.

    Keep it up my friend.

    ;D

    Ever since there have been punters on the field, there have been directional punts. We've all heard of "coffin corner" punts. It's a copout for Kluwe to say it's not that easy. Instead of punting it 55 yards and having it land just off the sidelines is not needed. You make sure it's out of bounds...miss one, OK, but two...not good at all.

    I agree the criticism should have been kept inside. But I don't think anyone threw him under a bus...he screwed up twice and almost cost us the game.

    Maybe it's convenient that Chilly has a "whipping boy" in Kluwe. Some coaches need one in order to motivate other players. Who knows?
    yah mike but all facets of our game stunk at one time or another during the game, and i seriously doubt that any other player is going to be motivated by the fact childress replaced the punter.
    it just seems cheesy.
    i mean i heard him make excuses for his offense for 2 years and not single anyone out really, but now all of a sudden you're going to do it to a "punter".
    we really shouldnt care this much, but i think the frustration of fans of how bad the game was played throughout made us a little bit more defensive of a player we shouldn't care that much about.

    ragz, I also don't like that the fact he has only called out the punter (and I heard he got in Longwell's face earlier in the year). Clearly he's frustrated, but to only get on the kickers is not very productive. If he keeps up with this tough guy approach, I'd like to see him go after some of the regulars when they screw up.
    I have seen him go after some of the regulars.
    I've seen him go off on TJack in a game.
    I've seen him go off on Peterson in a game (and I hope he did yesterday).

    Now let's talk about the Sts yesterday.
    Klewe, for the most part (except for 1 kick I believe that he punted in the endzone) did pretty well.
    He had hang time.
    He booted the ball well.
    Now, STs also had a pretty good game IMO other than the blocked FG.
    That is where I say it all starts with the punter.
    If the punter does his job it is a lot easier for the other 10 to do theirs.
    I am not saying the other 10 should be let off the hook however it all begins with the punter.

    One thing I want to add:
    Is it just me or does it seem like Maurice Hicks always goes straight to where the bulk of the players are for KRs?
    He tries to run everyone over and he is not that big to begin with.
    What's up with that?
    Gordon, I thought had a respectable game.
    [/quote]
    i wont disagree with anything in particular, but if i had to pick one guy whos actually not been a huge detriment one way or another on special teams, i'd pick kluwe.
    i mean even longwell who i love has missed 2 and got one blocked in very close games.


    and as for childress, f- him.
    getting on someone on the sideline is a lot different than going in front of the media and saying you are gonna replace someone cuz you are mad, and then continuing the charade by bringing in 4 guys for a tryout.
    the same reason i think jackson ended up getting benched, which is just a theory, is the same reason i think kluwe was getting shit.
    cuz they both questioned childress.
    kluwe stood up and childress took a whole game worth of bad and took it out on him.
    i think jackson actually said to childress, besides i'm playing not to lose, exactly what jacksons mother said to the media when the word came down he was benched.
    she came out and said that if you are not gonna give him a chance to really play its kinda hard to blame him for the problems.
    paraphrasing of course.
    now my guess is that she didnt just say that on her own, that maybe her son was saying this stuff to her and he finally said somehting to childress.
    and god forbid you question this kao
    "self improvement's masturbation.
    now self destruction" that's enlightenment

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    Re: Kluwe Speaks today

    "ragz" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    "VikingMike" wrote:
    "ragz" wrote:
    "VikingMike" wrote:
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=48416.msg850122#msg850122 date=1223578526]
    [quote author=NodakPaul link=topic=48416.msg849944#msg849944 date=1223554689]
    Post of the year.

    If Wilf interviewed 4 potential coaches after every game where our coaches sucked Northwest would have to add another route.

    How long before that joke of a coach is fired. Maybe Wilf will wait until Christmas Eve.
    What four potential coaches are there?
    Keep in mind that he cannot talk to any of the staff of any other teams, and most college coaches have monetary penalties for early withdrawal of contract.

    I want Childress gone at the end of the year too.
    I also want out ST to learn how to adjust, stay in their lanes, and freaking tackle.
    AND I want a punter who can aim.

    I don't like the way Childress criticized him publicly.
    I think Kluwe handled the situation with more class.
    But that doesn't take away from the fact that Kluwe is a major part of our ST, and he is struggling to get the job done as asked.
    So why is everybody up in arms about them bringing in 4 punters who likely don't stand a chance of replacing Kluwe anyway?


    People ask why they don't bring in TEs or LBs when they under perform.
    THEY DO!
    But we already have a pool of players at those position - its called the practice squad.
    They don't need to bring in additional ones when they want to explore options.

    Jesus, people complain if he doesn't do anything, and then they complain when he does something.

    Haven't been on much my friend, however, the little I read today, seems like you are a lone voice of reason.

    Keep it up my friend.

    ;D

    Ever since there have been punters on the field, there have been directional punts. We've all heard of "coffin corner" punts. It's a copout for Kluwe to say it's not that easy. Instead of punting it 55 yards and having it land just off the sidelines is not needed. You make sure it's out of bounds...miss one, OK, but two...not good at all.

    I agree the criticism should have been kept inside. But I don't think anyone threw him under a bus...he screwed up twice and almost cost us the game.

    Maybe it's convenient that Chilly has a "whipping boy" in Kluwe. Some coaches need one in order to motivate other players. Who knows?
    yah mike but all facets of our game stunk at one time or another during the game, and i seriously doubt that any other player is going to be motivated by the fact childress replaced the punter.
    it just seems cheesy.
    i mean i heard him make excuses for his offense for 2 years and not single anyone out really, but now all of a sudden you're going to do it to a "punter".
    we really shouldnt care this much, but i think the frustration of fans of how bad the game was played throughout made us a little bit more defensive of a player we shouldn't care that much about.

    ragz, I also don't like that the fact he has only called out the punter (and I heard he got in Longwell's face earlier in the year). Clearly he's frustrated, but to only get on the kickers is not very productive. If he keeps up with this tough guy approach, I'd like to see him go after some of the regulars when they screw up.
    I have seen him go after some of the regulars.
    I've seen him go off on TJack in a game.
    I've seen him go off on Peterson in a game (and I hope he did yesterday).

    Now let's talk about the Sts yesterday.
    Klewe, for the most part (except for 1 kick I believe that he punted in the endzone) did pretty well.
    He had hang time.
    He booted the ball well.
    Now, STs also had a pretty good game IMO other than the blocked FG.
    That is where I say it all starts with the punter.
    If the punter does his job it is a lot easier for the other 10 to do theirs.
    I am not saying the other 10 should be let off the hook however it all begins with the punter.

    One thing I want to add:
    Is it just me or does it seem like Maurice Hicks always goes straight to where the bulk of the players are for KRs?
    He tries to run everyone over and he is not that big to begin with.
    What's up with that?
    Gordon, I thought had a respectable game.
    [/quote]
    i wont disagree with anything in particular, but if i had to pick one guy whos actually not been a huge detriment one way or another on special teams, i'd pick kluwe.
    i mean even longwell who i love has missed 2 and got one blocked in very close games.


    and as for childress, f- him.
    getting on someone on the sideline is a lot different than going in front of the media and saying you are gonna replace someone cuz you are mad, and then continuing the charade by bringing in 4 guys for a tryout.
    the same reason i think jackson ended up getting benched, which is just a theory, is the same reason i think kluwe was getting shit.
    cuz they both questioned childress.
    kluwe stood up and childress took a whole game worth of bad and took it out on him.
    i think jackson actually said to childress, besides i'm playing not to lose, exactly what jacksons mother said to the media when the word came down he was benched.
    she came out and said that if you are not gonna give him a chance to really play its kinda hard to blame him for the problems.
    paraphrasing of course.
    now my guess is that she didnt just say that on her own, that maybe her son was saying this stuff to her and he finally said somehting to childress.
    and god forbid you question this kao

    [/quote]

    I'm not saying going after someone in the media was right.
    It isn't.
    Whatever happened with TJack is between them so I can't comment on it.
    What I can comment on is bringing 4 punters in to try out is not a bad thing.
    Maybe it lit a candle under Klewe's ass to get his crap straight.
    The truth of the matter is he does have a strong leg and he does some good things.
    But he has struggled in certain areas his entire career.
    Directional punting is part of a punters job.
    To be an efficient punter you have to be able to do that consistently.
    You also have to be able to have good hang time consistently.
    Klewe has difficulty with that at times too.
    I like Klewe but he really is not that consistent.

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