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    The Key Stat for Vikings Victories

    [size=13pt]The Key Stat for Vikings Victories[/size]


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    Re: The Key Stat for Vikings Victories

    Don't know if you guys know Johan Cruijff ( soccer legend ) but he is known for his crazy but always funny lines.
    One thing which applies here is:

    If you got the ball they can't score.

    I'm sure we'll do better than 13-3 this year on TOP
    Rosie O'Donnell is a dude!

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    Re: The Key Stat for Vikings Victories

    We also led the League in 20+ yard runs (21), tied for the lead in 40+ yard runs (6), led in TD's (22), and were tied for 3rd (13) in fumbles.
    All of these facts contribute to T.O.P. impacts.
    An interesting link:
    http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&statisticCategory=RUSHING&c onference=ALL&role=TM&season=2007&seasonType=REG
    By all accounts, other than fumbles, 2007 was one helluva rushing performance for VikingNation.

    Probably the most important stat to improve on the offensive side of the ball IMO is completion %.
    Vikes were #25 in the League with a 57.6% completion rate.
    Pretty shitty in a KA WCO...IMO.
    If this stat improves, T.O.P. will, TD vs INT ratio will too.
    As will Wins, assuming similar running performance in 2008.

    T.O.P. is also impacted positively by defensive stops.
    Vikes pass defense let them down in this category last year, although I couldn't find this particular stat.
    Hopefully, an improved pass rush will change the dynamic in 2008.

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    Re: The Key Stat for Vikings Victories

    Nice Read!!
    Thanks!!
    Good info there, probably one of the best offseason articles I've seen...but, of course I'm going to agree, the bottom line of my sig hasn't changed since shortly after the Hutch signing.

    Yeah, there's a bit of irony for you!
    Since we lead the league in "explosive" running plays, especially the ones that go for TDs, it actually limits our TOP.
    Not stopping the clock between downs eats nearly 45 seconds every time...so, going the distance on one play eliminates big bites of clock eating.
    Not quite as much on average as throwing it deep to Moss, but along the same lines...since an incomplete does stop the clock, but a rush for little or no gain does not.

    I'm certain that our offensive ineptitudes (3 and outs!) directly contributed to our pass defenses struggles!!!
    Anyone got a link for TOP by quarter, cuz I'm pretty damn sure that our defense provided many more stops (and 3 and outs) in the first and third quarters, but often wore down later in the halves after being on the field a lot due to the O not being able to stay there.
    In most if not all of our big wins, we had big completions that opened up the running game, kept the O moving and the D rested and ready to shine!!!

    Williamson's one big bomb vs. CHI.

    Deep to Rice on the 2nd play @ NYG.

    It was 14-14 in the SD game until Bollinger hits Rice for a 40 yard TD.

    Vs. DET Rice, Wade and Allison all had 50+ yards.

    @ SF we started the 2nd quarter with a 19 yard TD pass to Ferguson.


    Control the line, control the time, and give your D a chance to shine!!

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    Re: The Key Stat for Vikings Victories

    Sure, TOP makes sense....but the REAL stat that is the actual difference maker is SCORE.
    If you score and they don't, you win.

    In fact, in every single game the Vikings won, they scored more points than their opponents.
    In every game they lost, they failed to do so.
    It would stand to reason - and I know this may startle some (especially Childress), but SCORING is how you win football games.


    So, the next time you get into a stat discussion, throw that little tidbit out there, then kick back in your chair and watch heads explode.


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    Re: The Key Stat for Vikings Victories

    Caine you're a pretty funny guy, but I'm going to have to give you the Jon Madden Comment Award on that post!


    Control the line, control the time, and give your D a chance to shine!!

    "Balance it on end and thats the third side of the coin!!" -wookiefoot

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    Re: The Key Stat for Vikings Victories

    "Caine" wrote:
    Sure, TOP makes sense....but the REAL stat that is the actual difference maker is SCORE.
    If you score and they don't, you win.

    In fact, in every single game the Vikings won, they scored more points than their opponents.
    In every game they lost, they failed to do so.
    It would stand to reason - and I know this may startle some (especially Childress), but SCORING is how you win football games.


    So, the next time you get into a stat discussion, throw that little tidbit out there, then kick back in your chair and watch heads explode.


    ESPN ain't got JACK on me.

    Caine

    LMAO, Caine...as I was reading the article, I was thinking the same thing. All of the "stats" in the world don't mean anything if you end up with an "L". I do believe you have proposed the E.O.A. (end of argument).
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    Re: The Key Stat for Vikings Victories

    I thought it would say the 8 games won, Brad Childress fell asleep, giving control to players and other coaches. "KICK A$$!"

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    Re: The Key Stat for Vikings Victories

    You can have the best running game in the world, but it doesn't matter if you can't convert on 3rd downs through the air.

    If you can't convert through the air, you can't stay on the field.

    If you can't stay on the field, you obviously lose the time of possession battle.


    I'd say put them to sleep with the running game, then hit them deep, but I don't think it's possible to put a team to sleep with a player as dynamic as Adrian Peterson.

    Let's say it is, we can establish a rhythm, then shock them deep with Berrian.


    There are so many ways this team can score.

    The pressure's on Jackson, step your game up.

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