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    June trial date set for Vikings' McKinnie in Miami brawl

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    MIAMI -- A Miami judge has set a June 2 trial date for Minnesota Vikings player Bryant McKinnie on charges arising from a brawl outside a nightclub.

    The circuit judge set the case for trial at a brief hearing Friday. McKinnie's attorney and prosecutors said they have not reached any pleal deal.

    McKinnie, who did not appear in court, is charged with aggravated battery and several other offenses after a brawl outside downtown Miami's Club Space in February. The 6-foot-8, 335-pound offensive tackle has pleaded not guilty.

    McKinnie, 28, played college football at Miami (Fla.) and was drafted in the first round in 2002 by the Vikings. The Vikings have said they will wait until the legal issues are settled before deciding on any disciplinary actions.


    Interesting... Best wishes Mac. I hope everything works out for him and he learns from his mistakes and flies straight from now on.

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    Re: June trial date set for Vikings' McKinnie in Miami brawl

    http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/11/june-trial-date-set-for-mckinnie/
    In 2005 the NFL fined McKinnie a game check for his role in the Vikings’ infamous boat party.

    I didn't know about this. He is on a tighter lease than I thought.


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    Re: June trial date set for Vikings' McKinnie in Miami brawl

    "kevoncox" wrote:
    http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/11/june-trial-date-set-for-mckinnie/
    In 2005 the NFL fined McKinnie a game check for his role in the Vikings’ infamous boat party.

    I didn't know about this. He is on a tighter lease than I thought.

    He is basically a lighter Pacman, just not as bad.

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    Re: June trial date set for Vikings' McKinnie in Miami brawl

    "dcboardr41" wrote:
    "kevoncox" wrote:
    http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/11/june-trial-date-set-for-mckinnie/
    In 2005 the NFL fined McKinnie a game check for his role in the Vikings’ infamous boat party.

    I didn't know about this. He is on a tighter lease than I thought.

    He is basically a lighter Pacman, just not as bad.
    Or a heavier Pacman... depends how you look at it.
    Disclaimer: I'm an idiot.

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    Re: June trial date set for Vikings' McKinnie in Miami brawl

    Have I mentioned lately how this whole thing just pisses me off and how dissappointed I am in Big Mac?
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    Re: June trial date set for Vikings' McKinnie in Miami brawl

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    "dcboardr41" wrote:
    "kevoncox" wrote:
    http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/04/11/june-trial-date-set-for-mckinnie/
    In 2005 the NFL fined McKinnie a game check for his role in the Vikings’ infamous boat party.

    I didn't know about this. He is on a tighter lease than I thought.

    He is basically a lighter Pacman, just not as bad.
    Or a heavier Pacman... depends how you look at it.
    lol true true

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    Re: June trial date set for Vikings' McKinnie in Miami brawl

    Looks like today was just a brief scheduling conference.
    I think it's bad news for McKinnie that he hasn't been able to reach a plea deal yet.
    These charges are much more serious than a possible four game suspension like most people seem to be speculating, and if the witnesses are cooperating with the prosecutors it's going to be hard for him to win his case.
    Here's a brief rundown of what he's facing with the aggravated battery charges:

    There is no question that if he was in a fight, then he committed a battery (battery statute).
    If a battery is committed with a deadly weapon, then it is an aggravated battery (aggrevated battery statute).
    A weapon is a 'deadly weapon' if it is used in a way that is likely to cause serious bodily harm (slip opinion - dog is a deadly weapon), which almost certainly would include using a pole as a club.

    Since the evidence appears to be overwhelming that McKinnie actually did commit an aggrevated battery, his only realistic way out is if his use of force was justified.
    If McKinnie was defending himself, then he is justified in using force to the extent that he reasonably believed it was necessary to defend himself (self-defense statute).
    That means that even if he was justified in punching the other guy, he was not necessarily but might have been justified in using the pole.
    However, even if McKinnie was defending himself, if he is found to have started the fight then he would not be able to claim self-defense (agressor statute).
    Because McKinnie returned to the club hours after being asked to leave with police present, it will likely be very difficult for him to convince a jury that the bouncer started the fight.


    If McKinnie is found guilty of aggrevated battery, he could face up to 15 years imprisonment (general penalties).
    New offenders in Florida average between 3-4 years of prison time for crimes such as aggravated assault and battery (Florida Dept. of Corrections report).
    The other charges, such as resisting arrest, do not appear to be as big of a deal in terms of probable and potential jail time.
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    Re: June trial date set for Vikings' McKinnie in Miami brawl

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    Have I mentioned lately how this whole thing just pisses me off and how dissappointed I am in Big Mac?

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    Because of this off-field incident?
    Or because as soon as he got paid, he gained 50 pounds - in his feet?

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    Re: June trial date set for Vikings' McKinnie in Miami brawl

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    Looks like today was just a brief scheduling conference.
    I think it's bad news for McKinnie that he hasn't been able to reach a plea deal yet.
    These charges are much more serious than a possible four game suspension like most people seem to be speculating, and if the witnesses are cooperating with the prosecutors it's going to be hard for him to win his case.
    Here's a brief rundown of what he's facing with the aggravated battery charges:

    There is no question that if he was in a fight, then he committed a battery (battery statute).
    If a battery is committed with a deadly weapon, then it is an aggravated battery (aggrevated battery statute).
    A weapon is a 'deadly weapon' if it is used in a way that is likely to cause serious bodily harm (slip opinion - dog is a deadly weapon), which almost certainly would include using a pole as a club.

    Since the evidence appears to be overwhelming that McKinnie actually did commit an aggrevated battery, his only realistic way out is if his use of force was justified.
    If McKinnie was defending himself, then he is justified in using force to the extent that he reasonably believed it was necessary to defend himself (self-defense statute).
    That means that even if he was justified in punching the other guy, he was not necessarily but might have been justified in using the pole.
    However, even if McKinnie was defending himself, if he is found to have started the fight then he would not be able to claim self-defense (agressor statute).
    Because McKinnie returned to the club hours after being asked to leave with police present, it will likely be very difficult for him to convince a jury that the bouncer started the fight.


    If McKinnie is found guilty of aggrevated battery, he could face up to 15 years imprisonment (general penalties).
    New offenders in Florida average between 3-4 years of prison time for crimes such as aggravated assault and battery (Florida Dept. of Corrections report).
    The other charges, such as resisting arrest, do not appear to be as big of a deal in terms of probable and potential jail time.
    What a great post my friend.
    I knew this was serious but I was only looking at it from a NFL/suspension standpoint.

    I am sure his lawyer must be advising him to settle out of court wouldn't ya think?
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    Re: June trial date set for Vikings' McKinnie in Miami brawl

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "Overlord" wrote:
    Looks like today was just a brief scheduling conference.
    I think it's bad news for McKinnie that he hasn't been able to reach a plea deal yet.
    These charges are much more serious than a possible four game suspension like most people seem to be speculating, and if the witnesses are cooperating with the prosecutors it's going to be hard for him to win his case.
    Here's a brief rundown of what he's facing with the aggravated battery charges:

    There is no question that if he was in a fight, then he committed a battery (battery statute).
    If a battery is committed with a deadly weapon, then it is an aggravated battery (aggrevated battery statute).
    A weapon is a 'deadly weapon' if it is used in a way that is likely to cause serious bodily harm (slip opinion - dog is a deadly weapon), which almost certainly would include using a pole as a club.

    Since the evidence appears to be overwhelming that McKinnie actually did commit an aggrevated battery, his only realistic way out is if his use of force was justified.
    If McKinnie was defending himself, then he is justified in using force to the extent that he reasonably believed it was necessary to defend himself (self-defense statute).
    That means that even if he was justified in punching the other guy, he was not necessarily but might have been justified in using the pole.
    However, even if McKinnie was defending himself, if he is found to have started the fight then he would not be able to claim self-defense (agressor statute).
    Because McKinnie returned to the club hours after being asked to leave with police present, it will likely be very difficult for him to convince a jury that the bouncer started the fight.


    If McKinnie is found guilty of aggrevated battery, he could face up to 15 years imprisonment (general penalties).
    New offenders in Florida average between 3-4 years of prison time for crimes such as aggravated assault and battery (Florida Dept. of Corrections report).
    The other charges, such as resisting arrest, do not appear to be as big of a deal in terms of probable and potential jail time.
    What a great post my friend.
    I knew this was serious but I was only looking at it from a NFL/suspension standpoint.

    I am sure his lawyer must be advising him to settle out of court wouldn't ya think?
    He should get Pacman's lawyer. But on a serious note this looks horrible, maybe drafting an OT in the 1st rd will be the right move
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