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    Jimmy Johnson article on the Vikes' current mess.

    Vikings have brought this upon themselves

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    Maybe Randy Moss was right when he said that the Minnesota Vikings have been operating on the cheap way too long.

    I know former owner Red McCombs didn't like it when Moss told him that, and nothing against the people who are there, but you can't cut corners with the scouting department, the administrative people and the coaching staff year after year and expect to overcome it.

    It's not any secret that offensive coordinator Scott Linehan left for the Dolphins because he knew that Minnesota was never going to pay him. That's kind of how this franchise has been functioning for the last few seasons.

    Last week new owner Zygi Wilf said that he's going to be a Monday morning quarterback and is going to fix things. Well, let's be honest, none of his money is going to be able to fix what's already happened this year. Despite their 0-2 start, however, there is still talent on the Vikings. That talent didn't all of sudden go down the tubes in one year's time.

    Daunte Culpepper had such a career year last year that if Peyton Manning hadn't been setting touchdown records, he probably would have been named MVP of the league. But this year he already has 10 turnovers. One player hasn't had that number of turnovers since 1991.

    With all their talent, the Vikings offense has scored only eight points in two weeks. They brought in some defensive players, and paid some big money, and they give up over 500 yards against a young Cincinnati team. If things need to be corrected, maybe they should look to a team that beat them like a drum Sunday.

    Cincinnati had the reputation in years past of being a cheap team, cutting corners in the scouting department and on administrative people. They hired only the coaches they knew they could sign on the cheap. But after Marvin Lewis has come in, it looks like owner Mike Brown has put some money into his football team. And it's paying dividends. They are 2-0.

    I can't believe I'm saying this, but all of a sudden it looks like Minnesota is starting to look like Cincinnati, circa 1995.

    Can the Vikings turn it around?

    Obviously, the Vikings will improve because there is too much talent on the roster for it to play this way the rest of the way. And I know Mike Tice and his staff are working hard and will correct a lot of the mistakes. Still, I hope these first two games aren't an indicator of where this team is headed in the future. The big correction, though, won't really be made until the off-season.

    And, again, nothing against the people who are there. But when the top organizations try to improve they usually ask themselves, ‘OK, who's the best? Who's the best coach out there? Who's the best general manager out there? Who's the best scout or personnel man out there?"

    They try to get the best instead of asking who can we get, who's going to come here for the money we're willing to pay? And, again, we have new ownership in Minnesota.

    If they want to step it up and do it right and do it first class, it's going to cost Wilf some money.
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    Re: Jimmy Johnson article on the Vikes' current mess.

    Maybe we should hire Jimmy since he's so dam smart........

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    I have to agree all this cheapness by Red the flamer has hurt our franchise. I hope we can turn it around. It sucks being known as the team that did the worst trade ever (Walker). It would suck worse if we suck so bad this year, that we are known as the team that did the worse two trades in history.

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    Re: Jimmy Johnson article on the Vikes' current mess.

    That's what happens when you have an owner that is only worried about the economics and without a true passion for the game. Redneck knew that the value of the team was not going to depreciate when he underpaid much of the staff.

    I miss Moss sometimes, but I do not attibute the pathetic performance of the first two games to Moss. The Vikings cannot run the offense the same way they have without the best wideout in football on the team. The offensive schemes should be like nothing we have seen since in a long time because of the absence of Moss. Kerry Collins is reaping the benefits of tossing the ball into double coverage and having Moss come up with the ball and they are 0-2 just like the Vikings. My keyboard is stuck because I can't control the text flying off of it, we need leadership.

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    Re: Jimmy Johnson article on the Vikes' current mess.

    Even before Moss we had Cris Carter, and Anthony Carter before that. I like Nate Burleson, but he's got a ways to go to prove he can be as effective as one of those guys. I think he will, but solid o-line play, a ground attack, and smart decision making by Culpepper will have to play a role in his development.
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    Re: Jimmy Johnson article on the Vikes' current mess.

    This team has always needed a workhorse running back but for some odd reason they never draft one. Imagine if we had Julius Jones or Stephen Jackson in the back field to help relieve pressure on our WR core. Even when we had Carter with a young Moss we still had Robert Smith to balance out the offense. The offense needs balance and right now it has none. Probally never will as long as Tice is coach.

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    Re: Jimmy Johnson article on the Vikes' current mess.

    Yet this offseason people crying for one of the better RB's were scoffed at and ridiculed. Yeah Shawn Alexander is too old lol, Edge is always hurt...he wants too much money.....lol

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    Re: Jimmy Johnson article on the Vikes' current mess.

    I know former owner Red McCombs didn't like it when Moss told him that, and nothing against the people who are there, but you can't cut corners with the scouting department, the administrative people and the coaching staff year after year and expect to overcome it.
    That is what I said in another thread earlier today.

    Daunte Culpepper had such a career year last year that if Peyton Manning hadn't been setting touchdown records, he probably would have been named MVP of the league. But this year he already has 10 turnovers. One player hasn't had that number of turnovers since 1991.
    Just think if DC would have been the MVP last year and then started off like this.

    Sometimes change is good but too much at once is not usually that good. It takes time to get adjusted. We had a lot of changes in the offseason and it is difficult to see how things play out until ou get there. We are THERE now and need to adjust, not change. We need to tweek the engine slightly here and there.

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    Re: Jimmy Johnson article on the Vikes' current mess.

    "Del Rio" wrote:
    Yet this offseason people crying for one of the better RB's were scoffed at and ridiculed. Yeah Shawn Alexander is too old lol, Edge is always hurt...he wants too much money.....lol
    It was the fear of Moss syndrome. "We have to replace him and our D sucks so we have to fix it."

    I was for getting a RB in the draft. But, we would have had to (trade)move up. Plus, if we would have gotten a Caddy, we don't have even a gravel road going through our O line for him to run on. Plus we haven't been in the position to run all that much, playing from behind.

    3 runs for 36 yards isn't a bad stat until you look at why and what went wrong.

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    Re: Jimmy Johnson article on the Vikes' current mess.

    "gdavikes84" wrote:
    Maybe we should hire Jimmy since he's so dam smart........
    I would take Jimmy as a coach!

    I would not give him the General Manager / Head Coach title because that never seems to work out.
    What we've got here is failure to communicate.

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