Thread: Jackson has 'wanted change' but not now

AngloVike wrote:

Marrdro wrote:

Rockmolder wrote:

Marrdro wrote:

Prophet wrote:

You can just feel the offseason love in this thread.

Everyone just needs to start using the "My Friend" verbiage.

If you use it enough, it starts catching on and will spread to a point that we are friends....

I prefer "sexy little pixie", awkward as it was the first few times.

I still need to get even with Vesty over that.

never, ever, mess with the Vest.. you'll come off worse and it will all end in tears :woohoo:

Vesty has hired a full-time team of druids to build a series of virtual mini Stonehenge monuments to drain 'negative energy' from this thread.
Not sure if it's working. Might need to ask Neph the muncher.

jargomcfargo wrote:

AngloVike wrote:

Marrdro wrote:

Rockmolder wrote:

Marrdro wrote:

Prophet wrote:

You can just feel the offseason love in this thread.

Everyone just needs to start using the "My Friend" verbiage.

If you use it enough, it starts catching on and will spread to a point that we are friends....

I prefer "sexy little pixie", awkward as it was the first few times.

I still need to get even with Vesty over that.

never, ever, mess with the Vest.. you'll come off worse and it will all end in tears :woohoo:

Vesty has hired a full-time team of druids to build a series of virtual mini Stonehenge monuments to drain 'negative energy' from this thread.
Not sure if it's working. Might need to ask Neph the muncher.

I also heard this. My latest satellite reading shows Vesty worshipping at the alter of carhenge.

tarkenton10 wrote:

What is that sentence suppose to mean? And it is very condescending, much of the reason for people finging you arrogant and distastful! Waht does Arizona have todo with being a racist?

It was in response to this comment:

tarkenton10 wrote:

I do agree with one point that officers follow protocol and it is a step by step process, they do not look at anyone's age, creed or color. You follow their directions or they go to the next step in protocol; that's it.

Then I said:

C Mac D wrote:

lol... don't pay attention to the news much? Arizona ring a bell?

Because the recently passed laws in Arizona prove that police are doing everything you claim they are not. That is all.

Talking seriously ,the only idea of Tarvarias being our starting Qb makes me run in terror and then cry when none sees me.

C Mac D wrote:

tarkenton10 wrote:

What is that sentence suppose to mean? And it is very condescending, much of the reason for people finging you arrogant and distastful! Waht does Arizona have todo with being a racist?

It was in response to this comment:

tarkenton10 wrote:

I do agree with one point that officers follow protocol and it is a step by step process, they do not look at anyone's age, creed or color. You follow their directions or they go to the next step in protocol; that's it.

Then I said:

C Mac D wrote:

lol... don't pay attention to the news much? Arizona ring a bell?

Because the recently passed laws in Arizona prove that police are doing everything you claim they are not. That is all.

Not main stream media they drink too much koolaid from one side of the spectrum! I have not heard about any mass examples but there are always exceptions to the rule. I ahve no doubt youwill come up with a case or two but by and large I think that most officers hired are there for a cause they believe in.

LOL... I definitely read it. Of course you wouldn't come right out and support it, that law is the definition of racism ... yet you go on to justify the law and say you think it will work. I wonder what your opinion behind closed door.

(and yes I understand the law, ive ha many conversations with a California highway patrol officer about it... my uncle... and he said its blatant racism and goes against evrything this country is founded on. Caries, sorry if I take his opinion over yours.... LOL.)

C Mac D wrote:

LOL... I definitely read it. Of course you wouldn't come right out and support it, that law is the definition of racism ... yet you go on to justify the law and say you think it will work. I wonder what your opinion behind closed door.

(and yes I understand the law, ive ha many conversations with a California highway patrol officer about it... my uncle... and he said its blatant racism and goes against evrything this country is founded on. Caries, sorry if I take his opinion over yours.... LOL.)

No, I said I do NOT think it will work. See, operative word here is "NOT".

But hey, feel free to continue to misquote me and attribute things to me that are neither written nor implied.

Caine

Caine wrote:

C Mac D wrote:

LOL... I definitely read it. Of course you wouldn't come right out and support it, that law is the definition of racism ... yet you go on to justify the law and say you think it will work. I wonder what your opinion behind closed door.

(and yes I understand the law, ive ha many conversations with a California highway patrol officer about it... my uncle... and he said its blatant racism and goes against evrything this country is founded on. Caries, sorry if I take his opinion over yours.... LOL.)

No, I said I do NOT think it will work. See, operative word here is "NOT".

But hey, feel free to continue to misquote me and attribute things to me that are neither written nor implied.

Caine

So, you're against blatant racism, but can justify it? Odd.

C Mac D wrote:

Caine wrote:

C Mac D wrote:

tarkenton10 wrote:

What is that sentence suppose to mean? And it is very condescending, much of the reason for people finging you arrogant and distastful! Waht does Arizona have todo with being a racist?

It was in response to this comment:

tarkenton10 wrote:

I do agree with one point that officers follow protocol and it is a step by step process, they do not look at anyone's age, creed or color. You follow their directions or they go to the next step in protocol; that's it.

Then I said:

C Mac D wrote:

lol... don't pay attention to the news much? Arizona ring a bell?

Because the recently passed laws in Arizona prove that police are doing everything you claim they are not. That is all.

I'm sorry, when did it become the Police who pass laws?

They don't. They are charged with ENFORCING them.

Here is my first, and hopefully last, comment on the Arizona situation on PPO.

The law clearly states that if the Police have REASONABLE SUSPICION, they are to ascertain the citizenship status of the individual in question. There's that damn term, Reasonable Suspicion. Defined, that means that a REASONABLE person under the SAME CIRCUMSTANCES would suspect the SAME THING. This isn't blind witch hunting or racial profiling (As some like to charge).

Now, is this new law really going to improve the situation in Arizona? I doubt it. It is already against the law to be in this country illegally - we simply can't enforce it. Criminalizing it won't really have a positive effect because it STILL comes down to FUNDING. It costs MONEY to deport Illegals, money that tax payers DON'T want to spend. Further, businesses that hire those same illegals will be forced to pay a higher wage (and taxes, FICA, etc) to replace those workers - which drives UP their prices.

The TRUTH is, C Mac, you haven't the foggiest notion about what you're talking about - not an uncommon position for you. You are so busy trying to persecute me, or the Police, that you blindly ignore the facts around you.

I think the law in Arizona is not going to work - SURPRISE!!! You likely believed I was going to be all for it, lining up with my baton to club the next "suspicious person"...nope.

At the same time, what do you know about the problems Arizona is facing, and WHY they passed this law? Are you aware of the American civilians who have been killed or run off their land by drug cartels who are trafficking BLATANTLY across the borders? National Geographic did an excellent story about it almost 3 years ago...and it's only getting worse. Are you aware of the FACT that the local police and the Border Patrol are woefully undermanned and under funded to deal with this issue? Are you aware of the FACT that the Marines were requested to assist with Border operations but due to certain bylaws were not allowed by congress to do so?

It is my guess that you really aren't all that familiar with what is actually happening in Arizona, but you're "offended" by the law passed there regardless. Right? Did you know that according to almost every poll taken, the majority of people are FOR the new law? That's nationwide, not just in Arizona.

Ironically, as I stated above, I am not. I don't feel it will adequately address the true problem, and will instead "criminalize" the wrong people. But that's not what you expected to hear, is it.

The truth is, you jumped on a line of thought and refused to budge, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. In a post previously I showed how you were completely off the mark in 5 1/2 of 7 points you posted about me. Now, I've shown that you took a popular "hot button" topic at face value without any understanding of the actual issue. Maybe it's time you reassessed your positions here.

Caine

lol... spoken like a true "tea partier"

I'm guessing you think lynch mobs should be brought back too.

C Mac You absolutely amaze me! you cry how we should be tolerant and the Arizona law is discriminatory. You blast the police and make blanket stements against them BASED ON MAINSTREAM MEDIA! NO EVIDENCE!! It doesn't sound like you have done any investigation on your own but you just listen to rumors and your nughtly news. Make a condescending remark about people involved with the tea party movement all the while acting like you want everyone else to get together and sing CUMBIAH MY LORD. Although IMO you sound like the type who thinks they should take my lord out of that song.

What is wrong with the tennats of the tea party movement, Do you knwo what they aspouse?

I'm just gonna throw it out there, it's not my opinion on the subject, it's US Law:

Suspicionless stops, and searches without cause(based on profiles, e.g. "Drug Courier Profiles") are only legal at the border and in airports. It's one of the few exceptions to the 4th amendment, and again only applicable at the border and in airports.


The law passed by Arizona, which is profiling by nature, is going to be overturned by a federal court. I'll be surprised if it makes it to the US Supreme Court.

I wonder how long this thread will last.