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    Re: The Importance of Gus Frerotte

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
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    "jargomcfargo" wrote:
    [quote author=UffDaVikes link=topic=45841.msg794794#msg794794 date=1214180286]
    Hopefully Gus will be a good backup for us in this offense. If we were running the old offense I would have total confidence in him based on his past success, but you always have to reserve opinion in regards to how he will do in the KAO until he actually plays within it.
    I wondered how long it would be for someone to make that point. I feel Gus will be a much better option than what we had. But how well he performs in this system is a huge question. In reality, no quarterback has performed very well in this system, yet!
    Yeah, I was very careful in how I worded it but you are right, so far nobody has solved Chilly's (Rubiks) cube ;D
    I often sit back and wonder about that and ask myself, is it really that complex or how complex can it be especially when one takes into account how McNabb did in it..... :

    It will be fun to watch TJ this year after learning it one year, starting the next and what the coaches can do with some gametape to go over things with him.


    Additionally, I think it will be fun to watch and see how Booty fits into the scheme of things next year.
    My guess is we still might have to have some Vet leadership at the backup spot as he gets comfortable as well.


    Judging by what alot of you say about the kid I might be wrong, but won't that be nice considering how QB's seem to struggle with the scheme.
    You know my stance. I don't think it is that complicated and my opinion is that we will be successful in the offense when we get consistently good play from the OL in the passing game. Originally my hope was that we would see that happen at about game 6 of the 2006 season and looking back at your posts from the same time (
    ;D

    )
    it looks like you were right there with me. Hopefully this is that year and the offense will start to click and at that point there will be 3 QB's on our roster that will be able to lead us to victory. If that doesn't happen there isn't one QB on our team that can do it by themselves.
    I do put a good share of the blame on the OL (especially Birk) but the QB bears some of that burden as well.

    I really believe that TJ (after countless hours of film study with Coach Rodgers) will kindof help them out a bit by getting through his reads faster.

    Gonna be a fun one to watch my friend.
    Here is another one you can throw back in my face if it doesn't come true......

    TJ's skills will be improved enough that he will be able to stand at the line (with 2 plays in mind) and audible to the one (pass or run) that best takes advantage of the defense which will drive D-cords nuts as we dink and dunk/run on thier asses at will....... ;D
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    That won't do us squat when he takes 1 step back and has a DE pushing an OT into his face

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    Re: The Importance of Gus Frerotte

    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    [quote author=jargomcfargo link=topic=45841.msg795071#msg795071 date=1214237187]
    [quote author=UffDaVikes link=topic=45841.msg794794#msg794794 date=1214180286]
    Hopefully Gus will be a good backup for us in this offense. If we were running the old offense I would have total confidence in him based on his past success, but you always have to reserve opinion in regards to how he will do in the KAO until he actually plays within it.
    I wondered how long it would be for someone to make that point. I feel Gus will be a much better option than what we had. But how well he performs in this system is a huge question. In reality, no quarterback has performed very well in this system, yet!
    Yeah, I was very careful in how I worded it but you are right, so far nobody has solved Chilly's (Rubiks) cube ;D
    I often sit back and wonder about that and ask myself, is it really that complex or how complex can it be especially when one takes into account how McNabb did in it..... :

    It will be fun to watch TJ this year after learning it one year, starting the next and what the coaches can do with some gametape to go over things with him.


    Additionally, I think it will be fun to watch and see how Booty fits into the scheme of things next year.
    My guess is we still might have to have some Vet leadership at the backup spot as he gets comfortable as well.


    Judging by what alot of you say about the kid I might be wrong, but won't that be nice considering how QB's seem to struggle with the scheme.
    You know my stance. I don't think it is that complicated and my opinion is that we will be successful in the offense when we get consistently good play from the OL in the passing game. Originally my hope was that we would see that happen at about game 6 of the 2006 season and looking back at your posts from the same time (

    ;D

    )
    it looks like you were right there with me. Hopefully this is that year and the offense will start to click and at that point there will be 3 QB's on our roster that will be able to lead us to victory. If that doesn't happen there isn't one QB on our team that can do it by themselves.
    I do put a good share of the blame on the OL (especially Birk) but the QB bears some of that burden as well.

    I really believe that TJ (after countless hours of film study with Coach Rodgers) will kindof help them out a bit by getting through his reads faster.

    Gonna be a fun one to watch my friend.
    Here is another one you can throw back in my face if it doesn't come true......

    TJ's skills will be improved enough that he will be able to stand at the line (with 2 plays in mind) and audible to the one (pass or run) that best takes advantage of the defense which will drive D-cords nuts as we dink and dunk/run on thier dimply buttocks at will....... ;D
    [/quote]

    That won't do us squat when he takes 1 step back and has a DE pushing an OT into his face
    [/quote]
    I agree.
    I am hoping/banking that won't happen this year though.
    (Crossed fingers that the OL plays better so Uffda doesn't go find this post later on next year
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    Re: The Importance of Gus Frerotte

    IMHO a big part of our offensive struggles have been directly related to the amount of experience our players have in our offense.
    Consider that last year these guys were in their first year, first training camp, first look at the offense:

    Mr. Adrian Peterson
    Rice
    Allison
    Wade
    Shank
    Holcomb
    Ferguson
    Mills

    These guys got their first starts in the offense, even though they'd seen it in practice the year before:

    TJack
    Bollinger
    Herrera


    Basically, that leaves us with the rest of the OL (4/5), Kleiny, TonyR and Chester Taylor as the only components of our offense that entered last year with 1 year worth of starting experience, "in the system."
    I could have counted TWill there, but we know how that turned out...basically, it was new to all our skill position players.
    As the year went on, the misses, drops, wrong routes ect went down and we started to see more offense and more WINS!


    Now on top of their year's experience they've had an entire off season to tune in to each other.
    We should see better timing, rhythm, and routes!!
    While its true that our OL has underperformed in the passing game and carries much of the blame for our faultering offense, all of these skill players should have a better grasp of the offense this year and that should help the quick slants and other outs tremendously...which should help the entire OL look better too.
    Control the line, control the time, and give your D a chance to shine!!

    "Balance it on end and thats the third side of the coin!!" -wookiefoot

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