Im curious how many are advocating Tjack over Gus

With our inablility to put the ball into the endzone with any consistency there seems to be a fair # of people who are saying that we should put Gus on the bench and bring back Jackson to lead (???) the team.
Has Tjack done something in the last couple of weeks to warrant any more confidence in him than we had when he was pulled out? Is'nt he the same Q/B that averages about 140 yards a game and takes just as many sacks due to his indecision. At least with Gus there is some ability to find the open reciever and make plays down the field but if you think Tjack is the guy, than make your case.

Oh god here we go

It's the same drivel I hear on a week-by-week basis.
Jackson had his chance, and he failed miserably.

I was at the game today (Lions) and was stuck sitting next to a guy who kept calling Frerotte "Tree-Rot" wanted Booty to start.


It just never ends with these people.

Bad idea, our coaching staff has very little confidence in Tarvaris Jackson and that was on display quite early in the season. The playbook was more vanilla than it is today. At least with Gus they opended things up a bit and he's done way better than Jackson would given the current sitation.

Coming into the season I felt Tarvaris had a really good chance to suceed with everything around him, I thought the Oline would be way better and Sidney Rice would have a few TD's by now. Whats happened though is inconsistent Offensive Line play which really tells the rest of the story. Tarvaris Jackson with Gus Frerotte type pressure on his back is a disaster in the making.

Hell no.

At least gus is pushing the ball sown the field when we need it and completing deep passes once in a while. He also has better timing with the WR's.

The red zone problem is on the coaches. Once we get inside of the 35 it looks like the coaches are afraid to score. They just run, run, short pass, FG.

How many shots have we taken into the endzone in the last few games while in the red zone? I would make sure to do at least 1 every time we get down there so the defense has to respect it.

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Hell no.

At least gus is pushing the ball sown the field when we need it and completing deep passes once in a while. He also has better timing with the WR's.

The red zone problem is on the coaches. Once we get inside of the 35 it looks like the coaches are afraid to score. They just run, run, short pass, FG.

How many shots have we taken into the endzone in the last few games while in the red zone? I would make sure to do at least 1 every time we get down there so the defense has to respect it.

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Totally agree with this...we almost never actually take a shot into the endzone, its pretty rediculous...

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It's the same drivel I hear on a week-by-week basis.
Jackson had his chance, and he failed miserably.

I was at the game today (Lions) and was stuck sitting next to a guy who kept calling Frerotte "Tree-Rot" wanted Booty to start.


It just never ends with these people.

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miserably?
maybe you should go look up what that word means.
ferrotte is throwing teh ball about twice as much, especially in the first halves.
we still aren't scoring and 3rd downs still suck.
either way like i've said for years now, the same problems are gonna exist with any of our qbs unless we got one of the few studs in the league.
jackson gives us more in the sense of things he can do, otherwise we remain pedestrian no matter what.

and enough of this respect thing.
we are getting sacked more, still not getting first downs or tds.
if theres all this respect maybe things should be more effective?
fact is it probably doesnt really matter.

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"Ragnarok" wrote:

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It's the same drivel I hear on a week-by-week basis.
Jackson had his chance, and he failed miserably.

I was at the game today (Lions) and was stuck sitting next to a guy who kept calling Frerotte "Tree-Rot" wanted Booty to start.


It just never ends with these people.

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miserably?
maybe you should go look up what that word means.
ferrotte is throwing teh ball about twice as much, especially in the first halves.
we still aren't scoring and 3rd downs still suck.
either way like i've said for years now, the same problems are gonna exist with any of our qbs unless we got one of the few studs in the league.
jackson gives us more in the sense of things he can do, otherwise we remain pedestrian no matter what.

and enough of this respect thing.
we are getting sacked more, still not getting first downs or tds.
if theres all this respect maybe things should be more effective?
fact is it probably doesnt really matter.

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None of your concerns will change until the coaching staff does.

Gus is not the best QB in the division but he is the best one for our team at this time, which is sad but true.

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"Ragnarok" wrote:

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It's the same drivel I hear on a week-by-week basis.
Jackson had his chance, and he failed miserably.

I was at the game today (Lions) and was stuck sitting next to a guy who kept calling Frerotte "Tree-Rot" wanted Booty to start.


It just never ends with these people.

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miserably?
maybe you should go look up what that word means.
ferrotte is throwing teh ball about twice as much, especially in the first halves.
we still aren't scoring and 3rd downs still suck.
either way like i've said for years now, the same problems are gonna exist with any of our qbs unless we got one of the few studs in the league.
jackson gives us more in the sense of things he can do, otherwise we remain pedestrian no matter what.

and enough of this respect thing.
we are getting sacked more, still not getting first downs or tds.
if theres all this respect maybe things should be more effective?
fact is it probably doesnt really matter.

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None of your concerns will change until the coaching staff does.

Gus is not the best QB in the division but he is the best one for our team at this time, which is sad but true.

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what does that have to do with anything?
i said the same problems would still exist and they do.
you can say this qb is this and another is that, but fact is we are still bad in all the areas people were blaming jackson for.
if you wanna make it out to be not true for your own self assurance i have no problem with that.
i'm not advocating anything one way or the other, i'm just saying what i'm seeing.
and just cuz you throw the ball more doesn't make it effective.
i'm sure late in the 3rd quarter when we had zero points against that stellar detroit defense you were thinking how much better our passing game is now.
yah, i'm sure.

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None of your concerns will change until the coaching staff does.

Gus is not the best QB in the division but he is the best one for our team at this time, which is sad but true.

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Absolutely true!