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    I don't want Cowher, Gruden, Billick or any other coach who has been a TV analyst, talking head etc. If they make a change though, as I have been saying for years is they need a real football guy to run the club. Then let that guy hire his own coach that fits his philosophy and build the team from the ground up in a new image. It can be done and to me that is the only way to do it.

    Take GB in the early 90's for example. They had a few decades of terrible teams but brought in Wolf, who hired Holmgren and guilt a staff and instilled a standard of performance that is still there today. The 49ers did it in the 80's like that and so did the Patriots when they brought in Pioli and Belechik.

    I am really not in any mood to just tinker at the margins with the team any more and I get the feeling from the local fans I know that I am not alone in thinking that. We need a fresh, bold change to shake up the team, shake up the fans and shake up the league and get us out of the image of the laughing stock and the punch line of the week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Floyd View Post
    I don't want Cowher, Gruden, Billick or any other coach who has been a TV analyst, talking head etc. If they make a change though, as I have been saying for years is they need a real football guy to run the club. Then let that guy hire his own coach that fits his philosophy and build the team from the ground up in a new image. It can be done and to me that is the only way to do it.

    Take GB in the early 90's for example. They had a few decades of terrible teams but brought in Wolf, who hired Holmgren and guilt a staff and instilled a standard of performance that is still there today. The 49ers did it in the 80's like that and so did the Patriots when they brought in Pioli and Belechik.

    I am really not in any mood to just tinker at the margins with the team any more and I get the feeling from the local fans I know that I am not alone in thinking that. We need a fresh, bold change to shake up the team, shake up the fans and shake up the league and get us out of the image of the laughing stock and the punch line of the week.
    You are not alone, though I suspect you should be, based upon your sig..
    Hiring the right GM, and giving him control over football operations, is the only path to a championship. Until that happens, I'll be here to bitch and moan as usual.

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    It is my belief that Frasier benefited from the Rooney rule and getting interviews which he probably NEVER deserved. That rule made him a legit candidate in the eyes of teams as he was getting interviews when in fact there was NO reason to believe he had EARNED that sort of recognition to be a head coach. Most candidates are ones that have shown to be superior in their field of being defensive and offensive coordinators. Frasier never was that guy. He never did anything spectacular as a d coordinator in Minnesota or even Indy. Indy had a great offense and a marginal defense. Of course the Vikings bit and it's going to bite them. This guy lives in 1985. It's 2013 and the game has changed drastically. YOu can't win in this league with a run first mentality and a somewhat servicable qb, which Ponder is not even that. The proof is in the pudding. Peterson has rushed for almost 1000 yards in SIX games and we are 1-5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevoncox View Post
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    Watching him waste an amazing career under this coaching staff is worse, in my opinion. I can completely understand why Barry Sanders retired now.
    I don't think its Fraiser's fault. He has been head coach for 28 games. We have signed almost no one the past two years and he was given a depleted roster. IMHO he hasn't shown enough good or bad to make a choice.
    I don't think it's FRAZIER'S fault either... as I stated earlier.

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    I'm not really concerned with who the next HC is. As long as the Wilf family owns this team and Spielman is GM, the Vikes will have trouble fielding a competitive team.

    When GM and ownership have almost child-like understanding of the game, you're gonna be in trouble.
    Disclaimer: I'm an idiot.

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    Frazier is absolutely awful. Let's bring someone in here with a proven track record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Moss View Post
    Frazier is absolutely awful. Let's bring someone in here with a proven track record.
    You never, ever see him worked up on the sideline or pulling players to the side to talk. He's always just emotionless with a look of "I hope no one notices that I'm clueless" on his face.

    The guy is supposed to be a defensive specialist... in terms of points given up, our defense was ranked 31st last year and 18th this year. Maybe it's me, but I'm tired of settling for mediocrity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mac D View Post
    I'm not really concerned with who the next HC is. As long as the Wilf family owns this team and Spielman is GM, the Vikes will have trouble fielding a competitive team.

    When GM and ownership have almost child-like understanding of the game, you're gonna be in trouble.
    This is pretty much right where I stand on this at this point. I don't love Frazier that is for sure ... but with the ridiculous roster he has ... he has still managed 6 wins. I can't hate that too much.

    Going into the season if you had told me I would be 6-6 after 12 games I would have taken it ... and would think that Frazier must be doing something special.

    A new coach is not going to change our ridiculous lack of offensive personnel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mac D View Post
    I'm not really concerned with who the next HC is. As long as the Wilf family owns this team and Spielman is GM, the Vikes will have trouble fielding a competitive team.

    When GM and ownership have almost child-like understanding of the game, you're gonna be in trouble.
    +1

    (BTW, it's amazing how often we agree, considering our history....)

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    Quote Originally Posted by smegmavike View Post
    It can be said Frazier has had some issues with in game management at times but I see some real positives with regard to his coaching.
    I never saw his players give up. I've seen them come in flat and get tired at times, but he has been able to keep the locker room together despite the GM giving him some inferior players.
    Frazier has a good rapport with the players, and though not a great head coach yet, has a calm steadying influence.
    I think he has earned another year. Wont say the same for the GM or OC.
    Why is eveyone baggin on Spielman? His first draft and look who we got, a starting Olineman who should be there for ten years. He drafted Smith, a greatlooking safety. He drafted Robinson, a definite upgrade over who we had, and by the way a nickel back could be considered a started in today's game. Walsh is a very good kicker and helped the special teams. So you have three starters out of this draft and four if you include Robinson, I will take four quality starters every year, thnak you. Blanton could also be a good pick and Cole is on the practice squad, I believe and may start for us next year.

    I am willing to see Spielman's Draft this year and see if we should kepp him.

    There s only two things stopping you - fear and common sense!! The Truth you CAN"T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarkenton10 View Post
    Why is eveyone baggin on Spielman? His first draft and look who we got, a starting Olineman who should be there for ten years. He drafted Smith, a greatlooking safety. He drafted Robinson, a definite upgrade over who we had, and by the way a nickel back could be considered a started in today's game. Walsh is a very good kicker and helped the special teams. So you have three starters out of this draft and four if you include Robinson, I will take four quality starters every year, thnak you. Blanton could also be a good pick and Cole is on the practice squad, I believe and may start for us next year.

    I am willing to see Spielman's Draft this year and see if we should kepp him.
    Cole is on the active roster, but no chance he starts. Having two good plays in the third preseason game doesn't make you a good player.

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