07-10-2013, 09:18 AM #81
07-10-2013, 10:26 AM #82In order to be successful, Ponder is going to have to be on the exact same page as his receivers. He is going to have to throw to open field long before the receiver, and it is going to have to be to a spot that only the WR can get to. It is not impossible, but it is a lot more difficult than it would be if he was firing it in.
And, tho he is dynamite with a ball in his hands, Harvin's "I got a headache and don't want to pay attention in practice today," being replaced with Jennings more workman like attitude can rub off on the other young WRs we have, and improve that whole department.
At least that's what I hope!! SKOL VIKINGS!!!!!Control the line, control the time, and give your D a chance to shine!!
"Balance it on end and thats the third side of the coin!!" -wookiefoot
07-10-2013, 12:22 PM #83
07-10-2013, 12:27 PM #84
The QB isn't driving our scheme, the O-coord is. Thats why they drafted a QB that was best suited to run it.
Think back, Walsh ran the Air Coryell "More Vertical" offense. When he was stuck with a weak armed QB he came up with what is now called the Dink Dunk offense. Thats why he, from that point on, always drafted a QB that didn't so much have a strong arm but rather knew were and when to throw the ball.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
07-10-2013, 12:33 PM #85
The limitation was directly related to Ponder inexperience coupled together with a very complex offense and WR's that could not get separation when the were SUPPOSED to. Did they eventually get open? Sure but in almost every instance I bet it was passed the window were Ponder was supposed to throw the ball to.
That last sentence is pretty key because Ponder is supposed to deliver the ball to a spot before the WR gets there. If it doesn't appear he is going to have the separation at that spot Ponder is then supposed to go onto the second read in his progression.
That statement is pretty important as well. In this variation of the WCO, the QB always throws to the guy he thinks is going to be open based on his pre-snap read. If he has to go to a second or third option, he basically read the defense wrong.
Kindof makes me chuckle when I see Vikings fans hack on him for "locking in on a target". Watch Brady when he's reading the defenses right. He never looks at anything but his prime target. Quick read, quick release.......staple of the Walsh Dink Dunk scheme.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
07-10-2013, 12:49 PM #86
I know most don't want to agree, but our WR's last year did not get separation when they were supposed to. Most instances, when they were wide open, were times after Ponder was supposed to go to them based on the read and timing associated with that read.
Gonna be fun to watch Jennings work the field this year. Vikings fans are going to remember what the word separation means.
Another thing that will come of that....QB confidence. Not in himself, but in the WR's to be were they are supposed to be when the ball gets there. I think he had absolutely no confidence in anyone other than Percy and Rudy last year. All the defense had to do was take one or the other out, which wasn't to hard.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
07-10-2013, 12:57 PM #87
Lets pretend AD gets a quick hit off the first drive for six and the defense comes out and gets a pick six early in the first quarter followed up by a STs return for 6.
Yup, I think the QB is gonna get very few yards that game as the staff will pound it down the other teams throat for the rest of the game.Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
07-10-2013, 01:00 PM #88Many many thanks to my talented friend Jos for the new Sig.
07-10-2013, 03:03 PM #89
This could very well improve this year, especially if the team puts more focus on it. But I think we can all agree that it needs to improve.
07-11-2013, 01:23 AM #90
Gentlemen Gentlemen The point is, IF Ponder does not pan out like I have a feeling he wont, would you rather do a blockbuster trade for Bridgewater, or the top QB in the 2014 class? Or trade for a potential franchise QB like Ryan Mallett or Kirk Cousins.
The thing is the Vikings took a flyer on a QB that they thought was smart, accurate, and played in a pro style offense. Ponder was a "Safe" pick to become an ok-decent starter! but they forgot about the number 1 thing when it comes to drafting NFL players... INTANGIBLES. Ponder doesnt have "IT" he never did even in college. Which is why he was projected as a good backup/average starter. The vikings thought they could take him and run the ball all day and do 5-15 yard passes all the way down the field. I believe they are realizing that this is a 70% passing league. I believe this year we are going to let Ponder fling the ball all around the field and see if he can blossom into a Good QB like Drew Brees did! Remember when Drew was a noodle arm QB in San Diego?
This team is honestly in great shape for the future. We have a TON of YOUNG talent. I think if we resign all our young talent and have ANOTHER good 2014 draft class we are set for the next 5-10 years to be good. We don't have many holes left to fill. NT/G/SS/OLB is all the "holes" we got left. Ponder has been given the keys to a team with a bright future, and HE KNOWS if he doesnt atleast show signs of becoming a top 16 QB he is out.
I just want to know what does the team do? The team is young enough to bring in a Rookie QB, but then thats another 2-3 years we are robbing of Adrian Peterson. OR we can trade for Ryan Mallett, my number 1 choice, and the guy I think we shouldve drafted back in 2011 anyway.. or Kirk Cousins from 2012.. Iono what we will do, but I wish we wouldve brought in a decent QB to make Ponder earn it instead of trying to boost his confidence by protecting him.. I think winning a competition is a better confidence booster than someone just handing you something.