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    Quote Originally Posted by Minniman View Post
    I wonder too, as it looks like cherry picking, but if Cassel was benched for performance rather than injuries, aren't all of the stats fair game?
    yes and no, he was both but he was also on a dysfunctional Chiefs team (that has since purged) and I'd take some of that with a grain of salt and draw a parallel with last years Chiefs and the Bucs when they Doug Williams, Steve Young, Steve DeBerg, Vinnie Testaverde....its not like these guys wrapped up the wins when they were with that org but did have more success when they left and had a better environment. I think Cassell is a decent plan B, a step up over Webb and the team is in a better spot at that position then they were with Jackson and Frerotte....not by leaps and bounds mind you, but a few steps ahead.

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    Yeah, he would be better looking at cassell in whole as he has had bad years on bad teams but also played well in NE and did have an 11-5 record in KC. If we put the talent around our QB we can do just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Floyd View Post
    Yeah, he would be better looking at cassell in whole as he has had bad years on bad teams but also played well in NE and did have an 11-5 record in KC. If we put the talent around our QB we can do just fine.
    Agreed. And IMHO we have a decent amount of offensive talent on this team to surround the QB position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by battleaxe4cheese View Post
    If Ponder struggles to the point where Castle takes over, we're in big trouble at that point.

    Castle is not all of the sudden going to light it up, though I could be wrong about him. He reminds me of a less savvy Brad Johnson.

    I am thinking 1-4 or 2-5 might be bad enough to sit Ponder. At that point we're going to be digging ourselves out of a whole with..... Matt Castle? I highly doubt it.
    His name is Cassel. Less savvy Brad Johnson?! Wow how soon some forget his time in New England and his shitty team in Kansas City. We are not in big trouble if Cassel starts......we are better off!
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    Quote Originally Posted by singersp View Post
    "Cassel is just waiting for Ponder to screw up"

    Yup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marstc09 View Post
    His name is Cassel. Less savvy Brad Johnson?! Wow how soon some forget his time in New England and his shitty team in Kansas City. We are not in big trouble if Cassel starts......we are better off!
    Maybe he meant Eric Castle, former DB for the Chargers. If that is the case, he's right. We are in trouble if we have to start a retired defensive back at QB... :P
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    Ponder still under pressure as still-developing Vikings quarterback begins crossroad season

    During training camp so far, Ponder has done little so far to quash concerns. On one play, he'll zip a pass down the middle as a receiver breaks clear. On another, he'll sail a short throw well over the targeted out route. Most of his passes in team drills still travel less than 10 yards downfield, as the Vikings experiment with their playbook.
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    Is Ponder the right QB for Vikings? The answer must wait

    Is Ponder the right QB for Vikings? The answer must wait | Star Tribune

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    Quote Originally Posted by marstc09 View Post
    His name is Cassel. Less savvy Brad Johnson?! Wow how soon some forget his time in New England and his shitty team in Kansas City. We are not in big trouble if Cassel starts......we are better off!
    The year before Cassel became the NE starter Tom Brady threw 50 TD, and Randy Moss set the all time record for TD catches in a season. Cassel threw for 21TD that season, 11 to Randy Moss. Moss makes bad QB's look good, and good QB's look great, and great QB's look like legends. Cassel looked good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcdon00 View Post
    The year before Cassel became the NE starter Tom Brady threw 50 TD, and Randy Moss set the all time record for TD catches in a season. Cassel threw for 21TD that season, 11 to Randy Moss. Moss makes bad QB's look good, and good QB's look great, and great QB's look like legends. Cassel looked good.
    In 2010 with the Kansas City Chiefs, Cassel threw 27 TDs and only 7 INTs. As far as I can tell Moss wasn't on that team...
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