02-03-2014, 03:16 PM #11
And I agree. Go defense. Seattle's depth at defensive end won that game. Fresh legs for Clemons, Avril, Bennett and Irvin kept the pressure up. I read earlier that in 51 dropbacks Seattle only blitzed 6 times.
If Allen and Williams are willing to stay, I think the front office would be mistaken to let them go. Even add another pass rusher in the draft.
Secondary help is obviously needed as well, but I'm not sure Seattle's back 4-5 ever broke a sweat last night.
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02-03-2014, 04:09 PM #12
I think Denver failed as a team. I said before, the last time I saw such a lopsided Superbowl was Tampa Bay and Oakland.
Seattle came to play and it showed.
But I also think that the key to long term success is a STRONG Defense and a capable Offense. That's what Seattle has. Their D can shred you...and when it doesn;t, the Offense keeps you honest too. There is no magic pill like versus Denver or Green Bay where all you have to do is shut down one aspect of their game.
Right now, we have neither.
02-03-2014, 04:16 PM #13
They did draft VERY well though.
Bryant - 4th Round
Mebane - 3rd Round
Irvin - 1st Round
Wagner - 2nd Round
Malcolm Smith - 7th Round (Super Bowl MVP!)
Sherman – 5th Round
Maxwell – 6th Round
Chancellor – 5th Round
Thomas – 1st Round
McDaniel, Clemons - Free Agency and Trade
So ... nine in-house players ... four of which were taken in the 5th, 6th or 7th rounds!
All that ... and they had a major bust mixed in with Aaron Curry fourth overall in 2009.
I would have no problem with our draft being VERY defensive oriented. We could use a QB of course ... and some guard depth ... but all the rest should be defense.
02-03-2014, 04:25 PM #14
This goes to show what good coaching, ( which includes developing players) can do.Why must you defend everything this FO does....to the point of making your self look like a yes man.
02-04-2014, 08:59 AM #16
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One thing to keep in mind about Seattle's D.
As awesome as they were, Defenses get old fast. They're built with alot of young draft picks, and some great cheap free agent signings (Bennett, Avril). They will not be able to keep that group together for long. Those guys will get paid somewhere else, and they'll be back to a good but not great defense in no time.
So yes, while drafting for defense is definitely something we should look towards doing, we can't put all our eggs in the defense basket, same way we shouldn't just reach for a QB either and hope our problems are solved. To get a GREAT defense, it will take a few years of smart mid-late round drafting.
As somebody mentioned, Carrol coached alot of these kids in university, or coached against them, and has a bit of first hand knowledge about them. Something our team cannot say. That probably gives them a bit of an advantage when it comes to scouting.
02-04-2014, 09:50 AM #17
Seattle won in all three phases with better special teams, good coverage and consistent pressure on defense and as it turns out, a mediocre offense will almost always prevail over a mediocre defense.
I live in CO and was rooting for the Broncos, but I'm happy to see that Old School DEFENSE Still Wins Championships!!!!
SKOL VIKINGS!!!Control the line, control the time, and give your D a chance to shine!!
"Balance it on end and thats the third side of the coin!!" -wookiefoot
02-04-2014, 11:48 AM #18
The value defensive players is going up this draft.
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02-04-2014, 12:14 PM #19
There are many ways to build a winning team and it's not just following the last successful team that everyone seems to always fall into. In the end it's about playing better than the guy matched up against you. Seattle beat their matchups in most aspects of the game and is why they dominated.
Talent paired with good coaching and a bit of a twist on how they built their team. Next year it will be someone else with another approach.
Hopefully Zimmer is that guy for us that has enough vision and coaching talent to put a winning formula together and not just another me too tired approach.
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