How to measure success?

**olson_10** · 03-16-2006, 07:12 AM

"DaunteHOF" wrote:

i can honestly be real and say i liked the vikes because of moss & culpepper, but seeing as im a knick fan, i stay with teams when they're down

but by saying that, are you now trying to say that you have no reason to like the vikings anymore?

**olson_10** · 03-16-2006, 07:16 AM

"DiehardVikesFan" wrote:

Success in football is playing the game, enjoying it, and hanging up the cleats with no regrets. If you are satisfied with your career, it was a success.

for all we know, ryan leaf might have said that about his career

**olson_10** · 03-16-2006, 07:17 AM

"jaymz7" wrote:

"UffDaVikes" wrote:

The Vikings have gone through owner,coaching and personnel steadily over the past 40+ years and have had many good teams and have been dominant on both sides of the ball, but the one thing that has remained consistent over that period of time is that we have never had a combination of coaches and players that could rise up and win the games they need to.

If you look back through time to any team we have had, the team always finds either a way to lose or is severely outcoached by the opposition.

I said two years ago that the best thing the team could do is to trade culpepper,moss and bennett and get players that showed up to work on Sunday. Now it is time to see if we can find the right replacements.

All of the talk about how great Culpepper is and how great his stats are, but he never took the team on his back in the playoffs and became the kind of leader that people wanted to go out and win with.

Moss had great stats too, but in the playoffs he was a flop and during his career we had some of the worst playoff losses in team history.

When I will feel the changes were worth it will be when, even if we are sub-500 we go up against a team that is rated better than ours and through planning by the coaches and determination by the players, the vikings win some games they never should have won, and also when we play a team we are truely better than, we stomp them to the ground and beat them to submission. Then I will be convinced that the team has turned over a new leaf. Until then it's still the same old team.

Same old team or new team they are still my team. I may not like all of the moves they make, but I will back them 100%.

Even if they still play the way they have for the past three years. The band wagon is full so don't jump on and off because you feel the changes may or may not be what you feel is worth it.

The fair weather band wagon is around the corner there is plenty of room for you there.

couldnt have said it any better