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    Quote Originally Posted by marshallvike View Post
    If that ends up being the case, it is not worth it to trade him.
    Unless he is that big a locker room cancer.
    It could end up being similar to Cris Carters situation when he was young. He was enough of a problem that Ryan had to get rid of him despite his talent.
    That's the way I see it too. No Fuckin way do you part with a first round pick who was Offensive Rookie of the year, has totally out-performed his draft slot and contract, and who plays three positions well for just a 2 or a 3!! When he left the game mid-season, he was leading the league in catches, yards after the catch, and return yards! He's our no.1 WR, our 1b returner, and our 2b RB! That is 3 positions that he makes better!!! It hurts to stoop this low even, but I'll call a minimum of two 2nd round picks as the lowest I'll go...probably, I'd try to line up a 2nd this year and a sliding 1-2 next year based on likely to be made parameters.

    Nobody wants to pony up? We say fine and keep him and give it one more try to make it work. IF he turns into even more of a headache he hurts his own value as a free agent next year. IF he doesn't play this year, the contract doesn't just go away, does it?

    Five potential landing spots for Percy Harvin - NFL.com

    In fact, I see Miami and New England as quite potentially, the two biggest bidders, and they are in the same division, so we get them going head-to-head, and I think we get a nice package. Hopefully, enough to rebuild our aging Defense and add a couple of young playmakers to the offense. And then we can also think about adding a guy like Jennings or Welker on a 2-3 year deal to help mentor our young guys, Wright included.

    For the love of God just don't turn this into another Moss for Williamson type of deal. We've been trying to recover from that ooops for what, ten years now!!???
    Control the line, control the time, and give your D a chance to shine!!

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    Will stadium vote cause the Dolphins to have more urgency this offseason to impress fans, voters? | Miami Dolphins In Depth

    Hey, how about checking out the trade market, too. Percy Harvin might be out there. Explore, it! (I'm not ready to push for that move per se. But at least explore. Don't sit in a dark film room studying tape of the right guard from New Mexico, when freaking Percy Harvin is dangling out there.)
    They already know him down there...does that excite fans and sell tickets!?? Or, make them nervous about his purported history of outbursts?
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    Hey, how about checking out the trade market, too. Percy Harvin might be out there. Explore, it! (I'm not ready to push for that move per se. But at least explore. Don't sit in a dark film room studying tape of the right guard from New Mexico, when freaking Percy Harvin is dangling out there.)
    Read more here: Will stadium vote cause the Dolphins to have more urgency this offseason to impress fans, voters? | Miami Dolphins In Depth

    They already know him down there and he'd be really close to home. But, does that excite the fans and sell tickets? Or, does his purported history of outbursts scare them too much?
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    I think we need to keep Harvin. I don't give a crap if he's unhappy.
    He's under contract, if you start letting players out of their contracts early because they are unhappy you are going to end up with more unhappy players.
    If you give into Harvin for acting like a child, what message does that send to Rudolph and his agent?

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    Harvin is an amazing talent but also a whiny brat. I'm not that broken-up about losing him.

    Although, whoever gets him will win the Super Bowl next year.
    Disclaimer: I'm an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcdon00 View Post
    I think we need to keep Harvin. I don't give a crap if he's unhappy.
    He's under contract, if you start letting players out of their contracts early because they are unhappy you are going to end up with more unhappy players.
    If you give into Harvin for acting like a child, what message does that send to Rudolph and his agent?
    If they're in the final year of that contract and will walk away after it, why not trade him? It's not like he has 4 years left on his deal. If he's really unhappy and we force him to play here for another year, we will get nothing for him when he walks as an unrestricted free agent after next season.

    I'm all for the "don't budge on whiners demands" attitude, but Harvin is not making any. He's not holding out, at least he hasn't threatened to yet. Right now everything is quiet. We all think he's unhappy, he hasn't said it though, at least not since last summer. All we know is that his ankle's fine and he's one hell of a player.

    His value is high, and he's not coming back when he hits the open market. I really wish we could just give him a long term deal and both sides were all smiles. Harvin might be my favorite player on the team right now, as much as I love watching Peterson and JA and got excited for Harrison Smith this season, Harvin is something else. I really don't want to see him go, but if he's going to, I want something in return. Actually, I want a lot in return.
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    Percy Harvin reportedly plans Vikings contract holdout

    Percy Harvin's relationship with the Minnesota Vikings already is on shaky ground -- and it could get worse soon.

    Pro Football Talk reported Monday that Harvin is expected to "stay away" from offseason workouts and training camp if the Vikings don't give him a contract extension.

    Percy Harvin reportedly plans Vikings contract holdout - NFL.com

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    It is really simple. Just pay the man.

    He deserves the money. I am not a huge fan of being held hostage. I know that he is "under contract." But we should AT THE VERY LEAST make a fair offer to him and try to show that we are serious about paying him for the talent that he is.

    I have posted a couple times that we should make him a fair offer and then hold him hostage in return. And I firmly believe that. If he won't sign a fair offer. Let him whine, franchise his ass next season ... and force him to play TWO MORE injury free seasons if he wants to get a longterm deal elsewhere.

    But the best thing for EVERYONE involved is to sign the guy. Sign him to a 6 year contract or so and just get it done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midgensa View Post
    It is really simple. Just pay the man.

    He deserves the money. I am not a huge fan of being held hostage. I know that he is "under contract." But we should AT THE VERY LEAST make a fair offer to him and try to show that we are serious about paying him for the talent that he is.

    I have posted a couple times that we should make him a fair offer and then hold him hostage in return. And I firmly believe that. If he won't sign a fair offer. Let him whine, franchise his ass next season ... and force him to play TWO MORE injury free seasons if he wants to get a longterm deal elsewhere.

    But the best thing for EVERYONE involved is to sign the guy. Sign him to a 6 year contract or so and just get it done.

    I pretty much agree. Go to him and offer him a very fair contract(big) and see if he takes it. That will show him respect. If he takes it then great, we have him locked in. If he says no, then trade him (maybe to a crappy team like Cleveland or Oakland so he can see how good he had it). and move on.

    It does nobody any good to fight it out with a holdout and a long contract battle. Either show him the money or the door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midgensa View Post
    It is really simple. Just pay the man.

    He deserves the money. I am not a huge fan of being held hostage. I know that he is "under contract." But we should AT THE VERY LEAST make a fair offer to him and try to show that we are serious about paying him for the talent that he is.

    I have posted a couple times that we should make him a fair offer and then hold him hostage in return. And I firmly believe that. If he won't sign a fair offer. Let him whine, franchise his ass next season ... and force him to play TWO MORE injury free seasons if he wants to get a longterm deal elsewhere.

    But the best thing for EVERYONE involved is to sign the guy. Sign him to a 6 year contract or so and just get it done.
    I don't agree at all. Dude disrespected the man in charge in front of other players, who, have voiced their disappointment. In any Organization, that disrespectful behavior simply cannot be tolerated...PERIOD. If he isn't part of the Team, or, the Program, then, he needs to go. The Vikings don't owe him anything, and, would be fucking crazy to show a player that displayed what appears to be the biggest disrespect of all, blowing up, leaving the Team, going home, which, basically forced the Vikes to put him on IR. What part of that scenario indicates to you that Harvin "deserves" the money. The Vikings players, coaches, us fans, and the front office deserve better.

    If the report is erroneous (which, I doubt), then, I see it your way. If it is accurate, it is simple, he needs to go.

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