The PP is suggesting that Percy has turned into Randy Jr.
The PP is suggesting that Percy has turned into Randy Jr.
If I were to guess I would say that Harvin, with advice from his agent, decided to shut it down after the injury. He likely wouldn't have gotten back to 100% during the season, and playing at less than 100% for a small amount of money is not worth the risk(the risk being an injury or poor performance that prevents him from getting a big payday). It's a business and I don't blame a player for being careful.
But in all seriousness... the 'blown out of proportion' theory holds weight. I mean AP wants him back, obviously Harvin's 'blowup' didn't alienate him too much. People argue and fight. Hell, most of you must have at some point gotten in a fight with your wife/gf/other, doesn't mean you're looking for a trade.
What do you believe changed Harvin's mind about being disgruntled and not come to camp one day & the next day everything is fine? Youíre quick to ridicule other peopleís opinions, but donít offer up what you believe to be your own logical opinion.
My guess is he was promised something. If you want to assume something else other than he was promised more money/contract extension, you're free to assume so. Both of our assumptions are just that, but mine is highly possible & it was no secret that Harvin wanted a contract extension back then.
2) I'm not departing from reality here. If Spielman did promise Harvin the contract extension during camp, I'm pretty sure he didn't get it by week 9 or even week 14
Why would Spielman alienate Harvin like that? Who knows. Maybe his intent was to trade him in 2013 anyway or at least prolong not giving him the extension until 2013. Either way itís not like the Vikings never promised a player a new contract before & didnít follow thru with it.
3) Why would that be a break from reality? Címon NP, youíre smarter than that. If he was promised a contract extension & didnít get it & then got hurt on a minimal salary, why should he go back out there without getting a contract that at least gives him more money if he got hurt again giving 150% for his team? Again youíre quick to criticize, but donít give youíre explanation for it.
4) See 2)
5) Perhaps ďforcedĒ is the wrong word here, but IMO Frasier took the only logical path he could, thus ďforcedĒ. Sure he could have deactivated Harvin, but that would have thrown fuel on the fire & made a bad situation worse. Why would Frasier alienate his 2nd best player like that? If you listen to the Video I posted, Schefter states contrary to popular belief, harvin is a big fan of Frazierís & they do get along, but do have their differences at times. Listening to Frazier, the feeling is mutual.
Putting him on IR rather than deactivating him is logical. It doesnít piss him off a lot more, it gives them more time to work things out & it keeps the media more at bay. You start deactivating him game after game & everyone starts to ask questions & knows something is up.
Again, looking for your opinion on it then. Do you really believe his 2-3 week injury lingered on for 8 weeks?
6) Yep, he had a heated argument with Childress on the sideline, so did Favre. Do you believe we should have dumped Favre for disrespecting his coach? I didnít think so.
A lot of players have heated moments on the sidelines with their coaches, You seem to think that Harvin is the first or at least should be the one singled out & punished for it.
The heated argument on the sideline with Frasier was about Ponder not throwing to open receivers. The was not happy about it & quite frankly I wasnít either & rightfully so. That had nothing to do with Spielman & I never said it did.
The tirade in the locker room IMO was still about him not getting his contract extension. It certainly is well within reality & common sense that this is what it was about, but again feel free to offer up your common sense, logical explanation or should I say ďassumptionĒ, that is the only one that can possibly make sense.
Iím not blaming Spielman directly for Harvin blowing up at Frasier if it was about the contract, but common sense tells everyone, well almost everyone, that if Harvin would have gotten his contract extension earlier in the year & paid what he was worth, it would have prevented any tirade about it later on in the season.
If you think we should trade Harvin because he disrespected the coach, thatís your opinion & your entitled to believing we should trade him just as you believed we should traded Favre when he disrespected the coach. Oh wait, you didnít.
It was the right thing to do. Reward your star players for performance, rather than piss them off and lose them.
And I actually laughed out loud when you said that Harvin was making a "minimal salary" when he got hurt. Harvin signed a five-year contract in 2009 worth $14.5 million, including $8.7 million in guarantees. Not exactly what he is worth, but not exactly minimal salary either.
Of course part of the problem is his lack of contract extension. I didn't say it wasn't. But a larger part of the problem is starting to look like Percy himself. Of course, if you are looking for any and every reason to justify your dislike of the GM, then I guess it makes sense to say things like "I don't think Harvin failed us, I think Spielman failed Harvin." and "Spielman gambled with our 2nd best player & lost." I am sure Harvin is convinced that he is nothing but a victim here too...
That's the way the Vikings have almost always operated in the past. That's why I asked you why you thought they should have extended Percy's contract last year. It made no sense.
After a 3 day holdout, Adrian Peterson signed a five year rookie contract worth about 40 million dollars, making him the highest paid running back in the NFL.
The first year of that contract was 2007, which would have made the final year 2011.
Had AP played out the final year of his contract, he would have tore his ACL and MCL, and his next contract may have been a lot different.
Negotiations for Percy's new contract will start this year, and hopefully, an agreement reached by training camp.