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    Griffin's A D@mn Beast

    Horrible loss for our team we continue to shoot ourselves in the foot by self descrtucting on all sides of the ball regarldess of coaching or play calling. We fail to execute and draw way too many penalties. Don't want to single anyone out here just a couple comments on a guy who sucks right now.

    I think Cedric Griffin is lacking and nearly on Smoot's level in coverage. I thought this being his third year we might start seeing Griffin make more plays on the ball but this guy simply gets burned even when the passess are off. All those passess that come so close to being a play made by Griffin continue to be plays made by the WR. He continues to make decent/good WR's look Great even with pass rush. Todays Pass Rush wasn't great but Collins got rid of ball quickly. The Colts game was pressure all game and the dude still couldn't cover. He's physical, a great tackler but IMO he is a serious weakness in our secondary and unless he magically corrects the issue QBs and Offensive Cordinators will continue to take advantage of him.

    I called into KFAN and told them I thought since Tarvaris Jackson was benched we should start making presonel changes at other positions that arn't pulling there weight. Benny Sapp was a guy I mentioned, who I think is underated, physical, not the biggest guy but he will get his if you pass to him. Lots of INT and production in training camp. Very Confident kid and a veteran. Dubay told me that Leslie Frazier isn't an idiot which I agree but this wouldn't be the first time this staff made mistakes with personal. Its a short trip back to last year when Troy Williamson who is very unqualified was our Kick Return Man. He didn't feel there was anyone on our roster better than Griffin but I think Gordon is a better football player barnone.

    Am I being harsh on Griffin or is anyone else ready to see improvement or a change?



    Edit - SIA changed the name to D@mn Beast.
    Look who started this topic.
    Still controversial even after being booted.
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    Re: Cedric Griffin Not Cutting It

    I'd rather see Benny Sapp in there... he had a better camp and is probably a better corner.
    Disclaimer: I'm an idiot.

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    Re: Cedric Griffin Not Cutting It

    wow, i was preaching this months ago (check out the "who is the most overrated viking" thread)
    and was getting hammered.
    Seem's some are starting to agree with me.
    He's garbage, and should not be starting. (not like we have a better option though)

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    Re: Cedric Griffin Not Cutting It

    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    wow, i was preaching this months ago (check out the "who is the most overrated viking" thread)
    and was getting hammered.
    Seem's some are starting to agree with me.
    He's garbage, and should not be starting. (not like we have a better option though)
    I just cannott agree with that untill I see it, I think both Gordon and Sapp would give him a run for his money. Griffin is certainly getting the nod and I think much of it has to do with what we planned for him when we selected him in the 2nd round. Alot like the way Tarvaris was drafted early, big plans but if they don't work out we must go elsewhere.

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    Re: Cedric Griffin Not Cutting It

    We have had a shitty secondary since dungy left over a decade ago.

    It is not going to help to replace him.

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    Re: Cedric Griffin Not Cutting It

    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    We have had a poohie secondary since dungy left over a decade ago.

    It is not going to help to replace him.
    Did you not see how bad this guy performed vs the Colts and now the Titans? How could possibly know that a change won't help?

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    Re: Cedric Griffin Not Cutting It

    Trade for Shelton Brown!!!!!!!!
    Hes physically enough to play the cover 2( ask Bush)
    and has great cover skills.

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    Re: Cedric Griffin Not Cutting It

    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    We have had a shitty secondary since dungy left over a decade ago.

    It is not going to help to replace him.
    I agree.

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    Re: Cedric Griffin Not Cutting It

    "VikingsTw" wrote:
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    We have had a poohie secondary since dungy left over a decade ago.

    It is not going to help to replace him.
    Did you not see how bad this guy performed vs the Colts and now the Titans? How could possibly know that a change won't help?
    Because it is a systematic problem.

    In the cover 2 you need more pressure from the line so that the corners are not exposed all game. Last week we got pressure and Griffin was able to look acceptable. In the Packers, colts and titans games the line was not getting pressure so the wr's had better days.

    When you line the CB up 10 yards off the line it is going to create space for them to get open. But the whole key, as I said, is to find a way to get consistent pressure. We have spent enough money up front to expect a better job.

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    Re: Cedric Griffin Not Cutting It

    Its the system

    The CBs cant stay with a WR for 4-5 seconds

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