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05-10-2014, 09:52 PM #1
Grade the draft
Ok time to grade the draft 10 is exceptional 1 is dismal.
05-10-2014, 10:26 PM #2Rookie
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time will tell of course but on paper it looks pretty good, we took players that hopefully will fill holes on the team. mckinnon was probably the biggest reach but i love the pick, he's got crazy athletic skills, with some good coaching he could be a real gem.None
05-11-2014, 12:33 AM #3
As all ways pretty ricky lulls everyone in with multiple first round picks but if you loo at what we got you will see it's not a lot. Also remember we have had tons of draft picks almost every year for a long time, yet our cupbard stays bare.
1. Barr - Not sure how he fits our scheme because giving big money to two 4-3 DEs (255 lbs) screams that we are running the 4-3. However, Floyd can kick out to the LDE. Joesph can play the NT and Wooton (270) can play the other DE. I guess we will use some sort of hybrid 4-3 and 3-4 mosh. If that is true, A pick. If we stay 4-3 then this is a C. Athletic OLB that can rush the passer. Not asked to play much in space and is rough in coverage. A Skinnier D Ware. (i.e not a 4-3 OLB)
1A. Bridgewater - Unlike most people here I like the guy. Do i like him more than the other Qbs. No. I have no idea if we got the right Qb in the draft because all of them are different and all of them can be boom or bust. Cross fingers. The pick itself was an A move.
3A. Crichton - Draft says he plays like Brian Robison. Do really need to be addressing the backup, backup DE with our 3rd pick? We have issues are players that need starters.
B for the value but C- for the position. We can't draft for luxary at this point.
3B. Need a 3rd down back that can catch the ball out of the backfield? Lets draft someone that has never done it( he was the QB). Wait a min... why are we addressing RB in the 3rd round. Do we need a starter? Nope. Do we have 3 backups (2 I really like) Yup? Do we need WRs and Corners? Yup but lets ignore that and go QB/RB/DB. Oh did I mention that he was the flex back in a triple option offense so he has limited exposure to taking a handoff from the HB position... nice.
Grade the draft
Tha vikings did address sum needs in this draft but how can ppl blast they picks but when Zimmer was in Cincy u couldn't even name a defense player
05-11-2014, 09:54 AM #5
It's the other picks that concern me. Like waiting so long on taking a defensive back when there were several good ones still on the board when we drafted Jerick McKinnon. That was our worst pick of the draft. BTW Dri Archer was the next pick after McKinnon, Andre Williams went in the next round. Had we gone corner/safety with our second pick of the third round I'd be much happier about this draft than I am right now.
Barr, Bridgewater, Crichton, and Yankey I all like. The rest of the picks I can't really say I'm much of a fan of, or really know that much about.
For rounds 1-5 I voted 7, but it's really more like 7-8. C+.
After round 5 I'm not comfortable voting.
Last edited by Mr Anderson; 05-11-2014 at 09:57 AM.
05-11-2014, 10:05 AM #6
Those are the ones I can name which were drafted by the Bengals(I'm pretty sure.) All of which are good players too, except for Taylor Mays I guess.
They also had a few productive free agent acquisitions like Pac Man, Reggie Nelson and Terrance Newman.
I think that's most of their starting defense. All of which are solid or better players.
05-11-2014, 12:36 PM #7
Well, I'll admit, my shades are usually pretty purple this time of the year, but I loved this draft, and I like what I'm seeing as far as how this new defensive scheme will work.
We will have a deep and talented DLine rotation, with the strength to hold the point of attack and move blockers out of their preferred alignment. I believe the idea here is that this will clog running lanes and generally create chaos in the backfield to open things up for our new attack line backer to stuff the run or rush the passer and seal the deal as needed. Barr's athleticism for his size is off the charts, and if you think he doesn't fit the scheme, there's a good chance that you aren't thinking about what Zimmer's new scheme is going to look like.
I think we're going to see an evolving hybrid defense that is aggressive and quite possibly, cutting edge. As Zimmer has mentioned, it will have elements of both a 3-4 and 4-3, and with this lineup they're assembling, has serious potential to keep opponent's guessing as far as who is rushing from where. By my count we've got 7 DLineman who have started and/or could start on many teams: BR, LJ, SF, EG, CW, FE, SC. They are all on the stout and strong side as opposed to fast and slippery. The idea I'm reading between the lines here (pun intended) is we really want to control the flow at the line of scrimmage. Marrdro must be stoked!!???!
At CB, we have 2 starters with Rhodes and Cap'n and potentially a third if Josh Robinson improves by being moved back outside and part time where his speed can help him more. Antone Exum would have been drafted much earlier if not for the knee injury(s?) and may prove a steal in the 6th if he can get healthy. He has the size and physical aggressiveness to move to Safety and back up CB. Check out the link below on how he helps the defense...gotta love a hit like that!
Perhaps most importantly, I saw an interview where they asked Zimmer what his strength was and he said coaching defensive backs, that he felt he had a gift for coaching up DBs. Waiting to draft a DB seems to point at his confidence in this area, and we just spent 3 of our last 5 picks on DBs who are all Special Teams candidates now and may improve dramatically under our new coach's tutelage as time wears on.
On offense we somehow landed the QB who not so long ago most thought was the best project coming out this year. No.1, he seems to have a good head on his shoulders, both on and off the field, as he reads the defense and spreads the ball out and delivers it accurately. His numbers vs. the blitz are impressive as hell and we seem to see a lot of third and longs because of our preference for and potential with the running game. Norv is a bit of a specialist in calling play-action fakes and TB already looks more smooth and refined with them than Ponder ever has. IF Cassell gets hurt, I'm pretty sure most of us will be much happier seeing Teddy take the field than going back to Ponder...am I right?
McKinnon is well worth the last (regular) pick of the third. His athletic attributes are so amazing they are mind boggling. He seemed to catch the ball pretty naturally with his hands extended in the combine video I saw and his strength and attitude will likely translate well to blocking. I feel like this kid is going to be very fun to watch and if he gets caught from behind once in a while, so what!? It is still very likely a first down, and those are more important than busting off 60 yard TDs, specially when they will only put guys like Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady and Matt Stafford back on the field sooner than later!
But the real lynchpin of this draft for me was snagging Yankey early in the 5th. Another value pick fitting scheme and need, he's got a real chance of filling our last big, glaring, 300+ pound hole. Rumor has it that Turner prefers big, physical guards and this kid looks fit and comfortable with 315 lbs on his 6'6" frame and seems to attack his man with tenacity! Check out these highlights and tell me you don't like how he runs people over!?
Vikings Pick S/CB Antone Exum?How Does He Help the Defense? - Daily Norseman
SKOL VIKINGS!!!!! I'm sure it will take some time to really bring all of this together with so many new players and new schemes and all, but we really seem to have made some strides toward building a team that can be successful long term, AND a physical, grinding team that is tough enough in all three phases to make sure nobody looks forward to facing us sooner than later...perhaps before mid season this year...after we pull a couple of surprise upsets out of our Norse Arses!!! BAAAAHWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Control the line, control the time, and give your D a chance to shine!!
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05-11-2014, 04:38 PM #8Rookie
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I liked the job our staff did in this draft. To you guys who say Barr is only a 3-4 OLB have just been listening to all the analysts who projected him to be that. He is a freakish athlete, fast off the edge and if you listened to any of Zimmers comments he plainly said in his system his SAM LB does a lot of blitzing and rushing of QB. So cant really go wrong with grabbing the best pass rushing LB. He will be coached up.
As for the Bridgewater pick he was rated as possible top QB in draft before he flopped his pro day. Then to most peoples eyes just forgot about his tapes as a starter, and just focused on failed pro day. I do have some concerns about him though. Im all for drafting him where we did, wouldn't have been at 8 though. We filled a bunch of needs on defense and got a guard who was projected to go in 2-3 rd. All in all to early to grade but I do like the picks. Even the RB Mckinnon.
05-11-2014, 05:03 PM #9
This Draft Class, together with the last two, will propel the Vikes into a much more consistent franchise. Don't get me wrong, I think the 2014 record will not necessarily reflect that…but, that's another thread.
Re: Grading this Draft, I agree with Bryan Fischer of nfl.com - the Vikes passed with flying colors. We've been hearing for months that this is the deepest draft in many, many years. Certainly, San Francisco, Seattle, and our Vikes seem to agree. Several of the Draftees will contribute short-term on special teams, and, I think several will see the field and contribute to offense and defense.
Sure, there are some mixed opinions about Barr, I happen to be a big fan. I've watched the impact he can have off the edge as a 'Huskers fan, and, I believe his crazy athletic ability will translate to become an impact player in the NFL.
Bridgewater, whether you like him or not, he clearly is tough, and, according to most experts, he is the most advanced of the class in reading defenses. Norv worked him out in Florida, calling the shots, testing Bridgewater to ensure he can make the throws in our new offense…
I don't share concerns some PP.Oers have regarding backup, "project," and reach players in Rd 3. Crichton will be a beast, and, I have faith that our coaches can bring out the best in McKinnon. For years, there have been complaints on this site that the Vikes coaches don't coach…we do not need to have that concern anymore.
Love the Yankey pick, he will be the starting LG at some point this year.
Also, love the defensive athletes picked in the lower rounds.
Our friends at the Daily Norseman compiled grades from several experts…
2014 NFL Draft Grades: How Did The Vikings Do? - Daily Norseman
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05-11-2014, 05:28 PM #10Coordinator
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Crazy thing to say perhaps, but I believe the Vikings make the playoffs this year with a much improved defense and Matt Cassel at QB.
I liked the draft and free agency. This organization seems to be back on track. It's about time!