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    Re: God, please let this not be us in '08

    "StillPurple" wrote:
    Heard this on local sports radio. It was an ex-Bronco saying how "We had all the pieces from the previous Super Bowl year there. We had all the weapons, except Elway, the star QB. We went 6-10".

    First thought: Gawd, that could be us this year. I hope not !!

    Takeaway: you can have awesome weapons, and if you don't have a stud QB, you can go 6-10. Ouch.
    there is no reason that would even resemble us...

    A) havent won a superbowl
    B) dont have a superstar QB.. Jackson is on the rise and i believe will be great, but not there yet
    C) we didnt lose any starter of significance
    D) we've added pieces to the team that were lackluster in the previous year


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    Re: God, please let this not be us in '08

    Random thought alert

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    Re: God, please let this not be us in '08

    I see zero reason to believe that Tarvaris will be great. What can you base that on ?

    When I look at Tarvaris, I see some things I like: arm strength, the fact that he doesn't beeyatch and moan like some QBs, his decent running ability. I also see some things I don't like. I am not convinced that Tarvaris really can read defenses. I see bad decisions. I see throwing off the back foot. I see him flee the pocket the moment it begins to collapse. I see bad throws.

    None of this says "great". I don't see how you see that. Please explain...

    I hate to state the obvious, but we missed the playoffs last year due to Tarvaris.

    And the difference between going 11-5 and going 7-9 can come down to bad QB decisions. That is what worries me.

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    Re: God, please let this not be us in '08

    "StillPurple" wrote:
    Well, I personally have us at 10-6 and making the playoffs this year. So much for pessimism. I also see us making at least the NFC Championship Game.

    I am not saying we will go 6-10. In fact, with AP and our defense, I would be very surprised. But I am just saying, the thought did run through my mind when they mentioned not having the QB there...

    I am still not convinced that Tarvaris can really read an NFL defense and then react accordingly, though.
    I would have never guessed that you don't think Tarvaris has it in him.

    http://www.purplepride.org/forums/index.php?topic=46294.msg803881#msg803881
    http://www.purplepride.org/forums/index.php?topic=46250.msg802713#msg802713
    http://www.purplepride.org/forums/index.php?topic=46126.msg799923#msg799923
    http://www.purplepride.org/forums/index.php?topic=46123.msg799821#msg799821
    http://www.purplepride.org/forums/index.php?topic=46055.msg799814#msg799814
    http://www.purplepride.org/forums/index.php?topic=45912.msg796321#msg796321
    http://www.purplepride.org/forums/index.php?topic=45681.msg793338#msg793338
    http://www.purplepride.org/forums/index.php?topic=45643.msg791999#msg791999
    http://www.purplepride.org/forums/index.php?topic=45599.msg791424#msg791424
    http://www.purplepride.org/forums/index.php?topic=45428.msg790582#msg790582
    http://www.purplepride.org/forums/index.php?topic=45428.msg789159#msg789159
    http://www.purplepride.org/forums/index.php?topic=45428.msg788669#msg788669
    http://www.purplepride.org/forums/index.php?topic=45338.msg786127#msg786127
    etc.

    Somehow I get the impression that you don't have much faith in Tarvaris.
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    Re: God, please let this not be us in '08

    I have about zero "faith" in Tarvaris (Faith is blind trust, the opposite of knowledge and experience).

    But I do hope he proves me wrong. I personally hope that the guy does an "Eli" and proves me wrong, and I hope I can get on here soon and say how he proved me wrong.

    Until then... :

    ANY NFL QB can either turn into Eli Manning or turn into Akili Smith, and please, let's not pretend otherwise...

    I can't lie when the subject comes up and start saying that I think Tarvaris is going to be great, because I have not seen it yet.

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    Re: God, please let this not be us in '08

    "StillPurple" wrote:
    I have about zero "faith" in Tarvaris (Faith is blind trust, the opposite of knowledge and experience).

    But I do hope he proves me wrong. I personally hope that the guy does an "Eli" and proves me wrong, and I hope I can get on here soon and say how he proved me wrong.

    Until then... :

    ANY NFL QB can either turn into Eli Manning or turn into Akili Smith, and please, let's not pretend otherwise...
    As has been stated hundreds of times in response to your disapproval to Tarvaris....he is going to start his second year in the NFL.
    It is too early to judge one way or the other.
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    Re: God, please let this not be us in '08

    "cajunvike" wrote:
    "StillPurple" wrote:
    Heard this on local sports radio. It was an ex-Bronco saying how "We had all the pieces from the previous Super Bowl year there. We had all the weapons, except Elway, the star QB. We went 6-10".

    First thought: Gawd, that could be us this year. I hope not !!

    Takeaway: you can have awesome weapons, and if you don't have a stud QB, you can go 6-10. Ouch.
    Let it be the Putzies instead...they are due for a letdown.
    You don't think losing the super bowl and not going undefeated was enough of a let down Cajun??

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    Re: God, please let this not be us in '08

    "StillPurple" wrote:
    I see zero reason to believe that Tarvaris will be great. What can you base that on ?

    When I look at Tarvaris, I see some things I like: arm strength, the fact that he doesn't beeyatch and moan like some QBs, his decent running ability. I also see some things I don't like. I am not convinced that Tarvaris really can read defenses. I see bad decisions. I see throwing off the back foot. I see him flee the pocket the moment it begins to collapse. I see bad throws.

    None of this says "great". I don't see how you see that. Please explain...

    I hate to state the obvious, but we missed the playoffs last year due to Tarvaris.


    And the difference between going 11-5 and going 7-9 can come down to bad QB decisions. That is what worries me.
    really? he was the only reason to missing the playoffs? how about the other players that made mistakes? Bollinger fumbling in the lions OT game, shanko dropping td passes (most notably the KC one, where tjack, didnt play), poor DB play, how about CT fumbling before the pylon in the denver game and williamson dropping the long ball in that game?

    I hate to state the obvious, but we went 0-4 in games that Jackson did not start so thre must be more problems than just him.

    He has the work ethic, and tools to be great, he works for it, he shows mental toughness (which is essential for a QB), mobility, arm strength, and this year has a legitimate Long ball threat, which by the way sounds like they are connecting on a ton of long balls in camp.
    The bad decisions will go away with experience and practice, and if not look at someone who has made bad decisions and dont turn out that bad... see below

    [img width=450 height=259]http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b21/singersp82759/Packers/FavresLastStand.jpg[/img]

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    Re: God, please let this not be us in '08

    "RK." wrote:
    "cajunvike" wrote:
    "StillPurple" wrote:
    Heard this on local sports radio. It was an ex-Bronco saying how "We had all the pieces from the previous Super Bowl year there. We had all the weapons, except Elway, the star QB. We went 6-10".

    First thought: Gawd, that could be us this year. I hope not !!

    Takeaway: you can have awesome weapons, and if you don't have a stud QB, you can go 6-10. Ouch.
    Let it be the Putzies instead...they are due for a letdown.
    You don't think losing the super bowl and not going undefeated was enough of a let down Cajun??
    Cajun got some nice sympathy sex with Brady after the SB.
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    Re: God, please let this not be us in '08

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akili_Smith

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