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    Give Tarvaris time, says Bud Grant

    [size=14pt]Give Minnesota Vikings QB Tarvaris Jackson time, ex-Vikings coach Bud Grant says[/size]

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    Posted: December 31, 2007

    Former Vikings coach Bud Grant believes it's too early to determine whether second-year player Tarvaris Jackson, 24, is the Vikings' quarterback of the future.

    "(Fans) are trying to evaluate him on the basis of very few games," said Grant, a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. "I don't know that that's fair to him, to try to put a tag on him at this point.


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    Re: Give Tarvaris time, says Bud Grant

    Its not always about giving him time, Its about can we afford to sit and wait for him to develop?

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    Re: Give Tarvaris time, says Bud Grant

    I'm all for giving him time, it's not like people want to cut him, but I'd prefer that time be spent on the bench learning rather than costing us games...


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    Re: Give Tarvaris time, says Bud Grant

    "ItalianStallion" wrote:
    I'm all for giving him time, it's not like people want to cut him, but I'd prefer that time be spent on the bench learning rather than costing us games...
    costing us games? hes 8-4 as our starter

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    "ItalianStallion" wrote:
    I'm all for giving him time, it's not like people want to cut him, but I'd prefer that time be spent on the bench learning rather than costing us games...
    Exactly I want him to be betetr he just has not given us any clue that he will. If we were say the Miami Dolphins Or the Falcons then yeah give him a few more seasons or 2 we would not be going anywhere anyways so let him develop alopng with the rest of the team. But that is not us.This is a team that is in reality a couple of solid players away from making some noise in the playoffs. again the who is up in the air. Lets see what happens in the offsesson, but i highly doubt that if we had the chance to get a top notch QB ad proven winner people would still be wanting to start TJ over him.

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    Re: Give Tarvaris time, says Bud Grant

    "tb04512" wrote:
    "ItalianStallion" wrote:
    I'm all for giving him time, it's not like people want to cut him, but I'd prefer that time be spent on the bench learning rather than costing us games...
    costing us games? hes 8-4 as our starter
    today's game immediately comes to mind...

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    Re: Give Tarvaris time, says Bud Grant

    "tb04512" wrote:
    "ItalianStallion" wrote:
    I'm all for giving him time, it's not like people want to cut him, but I'd prefer that time be spent on the bench learning rather than costing us games...
    costing us games? hes 8-4 as our starter
    Maybe I should have reworded it as: costs us games when it counts and occasionally helps us not lose

    Hmm I would say he singlehandedly lost us the games against the Lions, Redskins, Dallas and tried his hardest to lose against the woeful Bears.
    By having no less than 3 seperate injuries, he forced us to endure the like of bollinger and Holcomb (and yes I do count lack of durability a fault).

    He didn't have any games where he was very good or great, and had a lot of mediocre games that you'd typically get out of most veterans.

    Will he improve, I think he can, and sure hope he does, but I see no reason that we should gamble again nect year like we did this year.

    The fact of the matter remains, if we had gotten a competent veteran in any of our Childress-era offseasons we'd have made the playoffs this year.
    Let's just hope we're not saying the same thing next year.


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    Re: Give Tarvaris time, says Bud Grant

    "GreenBaySlackers" wrote:
    "tb04512" wrote:
    "ItalianStallion" wrote:
    I'm all for giving him time, it's not like people want to cut him, but I'd prefer that time be spent on the bench learning rather than costing us games...
    costing us games? hes 8-4 as our starter
    today's game immediately comes to mind...
    really? i thought it could have been the 2 CT fumbles.. or the Williamson drop that wouldve easily been a TD.. how about mr cook with the penalty for the safety (without it we wouldve won)... or the lack of blocking at the end

    looked like to me the only reason we were in it was because of him

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    Re: Give Tarvaris time, says Bud Grant

    "ItalianStallion" wrote:
    "tb04512" wrote:
    "ItalianStallion" wrote:
    I'm all for giving him time, it's not like people want to cut him, but I'd prefer that time be spent on the bench learning rather than costing us games...
    costing us games? hes 8-4 as our starter
    Maybe I should have reworded it as: costs us games when it counts and occasionally helps us not lose

    Hmm I would say he singlehandedly lost us the games against the Lions, Redskins, Dallas and tried his hardest to lose against the woeful Bears.
    By having no less than 3 seperate injuries, he forced us to endure the like of bollinger and Holcomb (and yes I do count lack of durability a fault).

    He didn't have any games where he was very good or great, and had a lot of mediocre games that you'd typically get out of most veterans.

    Will he improve, I think he can, and sure hope he does, but I see no reason that we should gamble again nect year like we did this year.

    The fact of the matter remains, if we had gotten a competent veteran in any of our Childress-era offseasons we'd have made the playoffs this year.
    Let's just hope we're not saying the same thing next year.
    Tell me what Qb's are out there that are available?

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    Re: Give Tarvaris time, says Bud Grant

    "tb04512" wrote:
    "GreenBaySlackers" wrote:
    "tb04512" wrote:
    "ItalianStallion" wrote:
    I'm all for giving him time, it's not like people want to cut him, but I'd prefer that time be spent on the bench learning rather than costing us games...
    costing us games? hes 8-4 as our starter
    today's game immediately comes to mind...
    really? i thought it could have been the 2 CT fumbles.. or the Williamson drop that wouldve easily been a TD.. how about mr cook with the penalty for the safety (without it we wouldve won)... or the lack of blocking at the end

    looked like to me the only reason we were in it was because of him
    I was referring to the fumble in OT.
    Hold the ball.



    I'm not a hater by any means.
    But when we had a chance to take it for the win, he (literally) dropped the ball.


    And that stuff ItalianStallion just said
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