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    Getting sick of the same question!

    I'm getting sick and tired of the same old question -- "Can the Vikings win without Randy Moss." It's like Minnesota NEVER had a running game at all.
    This year with Kleinsausser healthy and a stable of good running backs, who cares? Sure, passing is important to keep the defense honest but Randy never was 100% of the offense.
    Here's another example of what I mean in a report on this upcoming season from Fox Sports.
    Get off it guys! Look at something else beside Moss.


    Can Daunte Culpepper win without Randy Moss?
    82 receptions, 1,306 yards, 13 touchdowns ...
    Can Daunte Culpepper and Mike Tice concoct the post-Moss formula for success in Minnesota?
    Those numbers represent Randy Moss' averages over his seven tumultuous seasons in Minnesota. But the seven-year itch prompted a blockbuster off-season trade to Oakland where Moss can be as bad as he wants to be.

    So can the Vikes make up for that loss of production? Daunte Culpepper thinks so, and will be properly motivated to prove that point all season long. Judging from his comments after the season ended ("He's my good friend, but you almost get to thinking that maybe enough is enough.") the Pro Bowl quarterback was prepared to file divorce papers on his main passing squeeze.

    Minnesota's leading man Culpepper will have plenty of intriguing options, and he did throw 26 touchdown passes to guys not named Randy Moss last season. Nine of those went to the team's new resident No. 1 receiver, Nate Burleson, who recorded his first career 1,000-yard season in 2004. Veteran Marcus Robinson also chipped in eight touchdowns last season and will get a chance to expand his role with Moss no longer on the north side. The Vikings also added former Ravens receiver Travis Taylor to the mix.

    The mystery lies in how much to expect from first-round pick Troy Williamson, who has been described as possessing Moss-like qualities, though there is only one Randy. The South Carolina product doesn't quite have Mosss size at 6-foot-2, but is a lightning rod downfield. Can he handle being "one of the picks they traded for Randy Moss?"

    While Culpepper may resort to using his other targets more often, it still may not translate to more production due to the 'Randy Effect.' Moss demanded double-coverage on nearly every pass play, so the field was more open for other Vikings receivers. His departure puts added pressure on each receiver to be even better than they were last season.

    All that said, the Vikings may have made the right move trading Moss (gasp!) when they did. The cap space created by removing Moss' salary was huge, allowing major defensive renovations in free agency (CB Fred Smoot, S Darren Sharper, DL Pat Williams). Plus, now there is no question who this team belongs to — Daunte Culpepper. Some Moss critics believe the star receiver's presence stifled Culpepper's leadership abilities.

    This will be an interesting team to watch, even without Moss. Pro-trade fans will point to the stretch of games he was injured last season, when the Vikings still put up over 23 points per game in five Moss-less contests. The anti-trade contingent will shout back you can't replace arguably the NFL's most talented receiver and his nearly one touchdown per game.

    No matter what happens, watch for Daunte Culpepper to carry an extra chip on his shoulder in 2005.
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    Re: Getting sick of the same question!

    Minnesota will have a top 5 offense and a top ten Defense. Great Read :grin:

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    Re: Getting sick of the same question!

    I can't wait to rub our Super Bowl championship in the critics' faces at the end of the season!!!

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    Re: Getting sick of the same question!

    How can you really be sick of this question? It is the most valid question in the NFL.
    Sure we have improved drastically on defense and sure the offense looks good on paper, but can Daunte look as good without Moss and can the offense flow as well without its biggest threat is a SERIOUS question that should be examined by every expert, pundit and analyst out there.
    I know that it gets a little ridiculous as Vikes fans because everyone notices that over all of our other moves, but it still is the biggest question surrounding this team and until we prove we can win without him (which we will) it will follow everyone in Purple and Gold, with a heavy emphasis on Daunte.

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    Re: Getting sick of the same question!

    I'm not sold on a top 10 defense just yet. I think we are improved for sure, but I think we have too many new faces to be so good so fast.

    On offense I definitely think we will still be in the top 10. Culpepper will step it up one more notch and be an even bigger force this season. Hopefully our running game will be more consistent and we can spread the ball around and keep the opposing defenses guessing.

    Special teams is another worry, one that desperately needs to be solved and in a hurry. The last thing I want to see this season is more short kick-offs, poor coverage, and especially missed field goals. Let's hope either Elling or Edinger step it up this season.
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    Re: Getting sick of the same question!

    The offseason dulls the brain of journalists (and it typically isn't that sharp to start with).

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    Re: Getting sick of the same question!

    "NeoVikesTX" wrote:
    I'm not sold on a top 10 defense just yet. I think we are improved for sure, but I think we have too many new faces to be so good so fast.

    On offense I definitely think we will still be in the top 10. Culpepper will step it up one more notch and be an even bigger force this season. Hopefully our running game will be more consistent and we can spread the ball around and keep the opposing defenses guessing.

    Special teams is another worry, one that desperately needs to be solved and in a hurry. The last thing I want to see this season is more short kick-offs, poor coverage, and especially missed field goals. Let's hope either Elling or Edinger step it up this season.
    There is no excuse for poor coverage this year! With the new additions on D, it will demote past D starters into Special team's players. And our old starters didn't suck because of the physical aspect it was all mental. And Special Teams coverage isn't neerly as difficult as Defensive coverage, so all those players should do well in ST. Particularly E.J.; DT/R.Smith; Dustin Fox (Fox will be a monster, he jumps sooo high!)

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    Re: Getting sick of the same question!

    I agree with most of what the author wrote - except that part where he attributed the acquisitions with cap space created by trading Randy. That cap space was already there.

    The question isn't, "can we win without Randy"...the question should be, "How can we lose without that goat-poker McCombs".

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    Re: Getting sick of the same question!

    That is a valid query. With Jimmy K and Rosenthal back, our running game will be ALOT better. Without O. Smith we don't have to woory about teams knowing its a pass when he leaves the field and a run when he is on it. Hopefully the depth at receiver, and tight end, will offset the loss of a dominant force downfield. I really only worry about the loss of Linehan and the addition of Loney. I am not that fond of the thought of Tice calling plays either.
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    Re: Getting sick of the same question!

    Randy Moss is good, but I'd rather have Williamson and Travis Taylor plus all tehse guys on defense that we got. I mean cmon Daunte will be fine and plus did Moss make us win a championship? No and the stuff we have now minus the bad attitdue of moss will make us better contenders in teh superbowl. Plus Moss'es prescence overshadowed Culpeppers leadership.
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