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    Re: Get rid of BJ!

    wow, i got nothin.
    horrible idea.
    oh and brad has 927 yards to date.

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    Re: Get rid of BJ!

    "VikesfaninWis" wrote:
    Are you kidding me? Now you are saying that we would be better off with Jackson, Bollinger, or even Culpepper at the helm? You are nuts man.. You can't blame the offensive struggles solely on the shoulders of Brad Johnson..

    It has alot to do with the play calling, and the time allowed to make reads and throw the ball.. If Johnson gets a play call, he makes that play, plain and simple.. He can make an audible, but how do we know that he hasn't and it worked out in our favor?

    I am pretty sure that if we would have started Jackson, Bollinger, or even if Culpepper were still here, we would be 1-4, or maybe even 0-5.. Johnson is fine, and as soon as they play better as a team, Johnson will prove why he is a SB winning QB..
    Do you any of you even know brad's playoff stats. He's a horrible playoff qb. The bucs wone the superbowl in spite of brad johnson. His career playoff stats are 55% completion perentage 7tds and 12 ints. Now those are the stats of qb you want in the playoffs. Lets face it, winning a superbowl doesn't make u a great qb. It means nothing about ur ablility ask Trent Dilfer.

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    Re: Get rid of BJ!

    "BrooksBollingerForQB" wrote:
    "Prophet" wrote:
    "Vike_Fanatic" wrote:
    OK, I think I have had enough of BJ's horrible decisions and not to mention his throwing ability.
    He can't run the ball either, all he can do is DUMP,DUMP,DUMP.
    He has thrown maybe 4 passes attempted for over 20 yards this year.
    3 of them were horrible and the one that was desent was dropped.
    T. Jackson is ready to start this year.
    If we keep letting BJ dump the ball, were ganna end up with under 1000 passing yards this year!!!
    After jackson heals, which I think will take another week or so, then let jackson practice with the starters and he can begin his career with a win over the 49's.
    Waiting 4 weeks from now should be enough time to get ready.
    I just dont think that he should start against Seatle or New England because it will be an easy transfer from playing with 2nd stringers to playing the 1st string 49's.
    Yeah, 76% completions is horrible, I can see where you're coming from.
    The most sound decision would be to start a rookie that played in division II college ball and a few preseason games against 2-4th stringers.
    He's ready.
    There is no doubt.
    Actually, I'm a bit surprised that you didn't get the nod over Childress for the HC job.
    Lets be honest guys. If this was Daunte Culpepper and he had brad's stats u'd all be in agreement that Tavarias or Bollinger should play.
    If DC was playing, he would have fumbled away the wins or thrown one of his trademark picks late in the game . . . kind of like Kitna did & DC is still doing in Miami.

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    Re: Get rid of BJ!

    "sleepagent" wrote:
    "BrooksBollingerForQB" wrote:
    "Prophet" wrote:
    "Vike_Fanatic" wrote:
    OK, I think I have had enough of BJ's horrible decisions and not to mention his throwing ability.
    He can't run the ball either, all he can do is DUMP,DUMP,DUMP.
    He has thrown maybe 4 passes attempted for over 20 yards this year.
    3 of them were horrible and the one that was desent was dropped.
    T. Jackson is ready to start this year.
    If we keep letting BJ dump the ball, were ganna end up with under 1000 passing yards this year!!!
    After jackson heals, which I think will take another week or so, then let jackson practice with the starters and he can begin his career with a win over the 49's.
    Waiting 4 weeks from now should be enough time to get ready.
    I just dont think that he should start against Seatle or New England because it will be an easy transfer from playing with 2nd stringers to playing the 1st string 49's.
    Yeah, 76% completions is horrible, I can see where you're coming from.
    The most sound decision would be to start a rookie that played in division II college ball and a few preseason games against 2-4th stringers.
    He's ready.
    There is no doubt.
    Actually, I'm a bit surprised that you didn't get the nod over Childress for the HC job.
    Lets be honest guys. If this was Daunte Culpepper and he had brad's stats u'd all be in agreement that Tavarias or Bollinger should play.
    If DC was playing, he would have fumbled away the wins or thrown one of his trademark picks late in the game . . . kind of like Kitna did & DC is still doing in Miami.
    Way to side step everything I said because you know i'm right

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    Re: Get rid of BJ!

    "BrooksBollingerForQB" wrote:
    "Prophet" wrote:
    "Vike_Fanatic" wrote:
    OK, I think I have had enough of BJ's horrible decisions and not to mention his throwing ability.
    He can't run the ball either, all he can do is DUMP,DUMP,DUMP.
    He has thrown maybe 4 passes attempted for over 20 yards this year.
    3 of them were horrible and the one that was desent was dropped.
    T. Jackson is ready to start this year.
    If we keep letting BJ dump the ball, were ganna end up with under 1000 passing yards this year!!!
    After jackson heals, which I think will take another week or so, then let jackson practice with the starters and he can begin his career with a win over the 49's.
    Waiting 4 weeks from now should be enough time to get ready.
    I just dont think that he should start against Seatle or New England because it will be an easy transfer from playing with 2nd stringers to playing the 1st string 49's.
    Yeah, 76% completions is horrible, I can see where you're coming from.
    The most sound decision would be to start a rookie that played in division II college ball and a few preseason games against 2-4th stringers.
    He's ready.
    There is no doubt.
    Actually, I'm a bit surprised that you didn't get the nod over Childress for the HC job.
    Lets be honest guys. If this was Daunte Culpepper and he had brad's stats u'd all be in agreement that Tavarias or Bollinger should play.
    Do you even watch the games?
    I couldn't be more honest than I am saying that there are many problems on the O.
    If Culpepper was playing there would have been fumbles and INTS racking up faster than I can type this sentence.
    Right now there are problems on the O that have to do some combination of BJ, coaching, line, WRs, play calling, etc.
    If you think for a moment that the coaching staff isn't aware of these problems and trying to correct them you should just quit being a fan of the NFL.

    Many fans are not fans of individual players, they want the team to win.
    Not that complicated.
    I am more convinced, given our current options, that BJ is a better starter than Bollinger and Tarvaris at this juncture of his career.
    Think.
    It doesn't hurt.

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    "PurplePeopleEaters" wrote:
    Did you ever think about why Brad may be dumping the ball off? The goal for the QB is to look to his primary receivers before dumping it off. If the primary targets aren't open, he looks to the checkdown which is usually a screen or dumpoff. If we're dumping the ball off a lot, doesn't that imply that our receivers aren't open a lot? You can't solely blame the offensive trouble on a single person. Every player is doing their part to add to the crapiness of the offense other than chester.
    As mentioned on the post game show & I totally agreed, Brad is throwing to his checkdowns way to quickly. Perhaps not even checking all his receivers first & I've seen a lot of times at the games where receivers were open. Paul Allen & Mike Morris bith felt the reason he is doing it is because they think Brad is still not comfortable & confident with his O-line yet.


    Now, while Brad may not have the best arm, the best moves or throws to his checkdowns to quickly, he is the smartest & best one we have for reading defenses & protecting the ball.

    If you put T-Jack in there right now, he won't be able to read the defenses as well & you'll either see him get hurt while scrambling or turning the ball over a lot more often, via interceptions.

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    Re: Get rid of BJ!

    "BrooksBollingerForQB" wrote:
    "VikesfaninWis" wrote:
    Are you kidding me? Now you are saying that we would be better off with Jackson, Bollinger, or even Culpepper at the helm? You are nuts man.. You can't blame the offensive struggles solely on the shoulders of Brad Johnson..

    It has alot to do with the play calling, and the time allowed to make reads and throw the ball.. If Johnson gets a play call, he makes that play, plain and simple.. He can make an audible, but how do we know that he hasn't and it worked out in our favor?

    I am pretty sure that if we would have started Jackson, Bollinger, or even if Culpepper were still here, we would be 1-4, or maybe even 0-5.. Johnson is fine, and as soon as they play better as a team, Johnson will prove why he is a SB winning QB..
    Do you any of you even know brad's playoff stats. He's a horrible playoff qb. The bucs wone the superbowl in spite of brad johnson. His career playoff stats are 55% completion perentage 7tds and 12 ints. Now those are the stats of qb you want in the playoffs. Lets face it, winning a superbowl doesn't make u a great qb. It means nothing about ur ablility ask Trent Dilfer.
    If BJ can get us a ring (finally) and we play like the RAVENS did the year they won the Super Bowl . . . I'll deal with it!

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    Re: Get rid of BJ!

    what the hell makes anyone think bollinger would be any better?
    what the hell are his stats?
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    Re: Get rid of BJ!

    "BrooksBollingerForQB" wrote:
    "sleepagent" wrote:
    "BrooksBollingerForQB" wrote:
    "Prophet" wrote:
    "Vike_Fanatic" wrote:
    OK, I think I have had enough of BJ's horrible decisions and not to mention his throwing ability.
    He can't run the ball either, all he can do is DUMP,DUMP,DUMP.
    He has thrown maybe 4 passes attempted for over 20 yards this year.
    3 of them were horrible and the one that was desent was dropped.
    T. Jackson is ready to start this year.
    If we keep letting BJ dump the ball, were ganna end up with under 1000 passing yards this year!!!
    After jackson heals, which I think will take another week or so, then let jackson practice with the starters and he can begin his career with a win over the 49's.
    Waiting 4 weeks from now should be enough time to get ready.
    I just dont think that he should start against Seatle or New England because it will be an easy transfer from playing with 2nd stringers to playing the 1st string 49's.
    Yeah, 76% completions is horrible, I can see where you're coming from.
    The most sound decision would be to start a rookie that played in division II college ball and a few preseason games against 2-4th stringers.
    He's ready.
    There is no doubt.
    Actually, I'm a bit surprised that you didn't get the nod over Childress for the HC job.
    Lets be honest guys. If this was Daunte Culpepper and he had brad's stats u'd all be in agreement that Tavarias or Bollinger should play.
    If DC was playing, he would have fumbled away the wins or thrown one of his trademark picks late in the game . . . kind of like Kitna did & DC is still doing in Miami.
    Way to side step everything I said because you know i'm right
    Intangibles my friend.
    Whats the win percentage of DC?
    How about BJ?
    In the end . . . its all about the "W".

    Right now BJ is the best man for the job.


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    Re: Get rid of BJ!

    "Prophet" wrote:
    "BrooksBollingerForQB" wrote:
    "Prophet" wrote:
    "Vike_Fanatic" wrote:
    OK, I think I have had enough of BJ's horrible decisions and not to mention his throwing ability.
    He can't run the ball either, all he can do is DUMP,DUMP,DUMP.
    He has thrown maybe 4 passes attempted for over 20 yards this year.
    3 of them were horrible and the one that was desent was dropped.
    T. Jackson is ready to start this year.
    If we keep letting BJ dump the ball, were ganna end up with under 1000 passing yards this year!!!
    After jackson heals, which I think will take another week or so, then let jackson practice with the starters and he can begin his career with a win over the 49's.
    Waiting 4 weeks from now should be enough time to get ready.
    I just dont think that he should start against Seatle or New England because it will be an easy transfer from playing with 2nd stringers to playing the 1st string 49's.
    Yeah, 76% completions is horrible, I can see where you're coming from.
    The most sound decision would be to start a rookie that played in division II college ball and a few preseason games against 2-4th stringers.
    He's ready.
    There is no doubt.
    Actually, I'm a bit surprised that you didn't get the nod over Childress for the HC job.
    Lets be honest guys. If this was Daunte Culpepper and he had brad's stats u'd all be in agreement that Tavarias or Bollinger should play.
    Do you even watch the games?
    I couldn't be more honest than I am saying that there are many problems on the O.
    If Culpepper was playing there would have been fumbles and INTS racking up faster than I can type this sentence.
    Right now there are problems on the O that have to do some combination of BJ, coaching, line, WRs, play calling, etc.
    If you think for a moment that the coaching staff isn't aware of these problems and trying to correct them you should just quit being a fan of the NFL.

    Many fans are not fans of individual players, they want the team to win.
    Not that complicated.
    I am more convinced, given our current options, that BJ is a better starter than Bollinger and Tarvaris at this juncture of his career.
    Think.
    It doesn't hurt.
    Dude way to also side step what I said. i didn't say if daunte played worse than brad. If daunte and brad had the exact same stats exact same record, you'd be calling for his head. Maybe Now you can understand what I'm saying. Or maybe you just be illerate on this here comp thingy.

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