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    get ready for next season and forget about moss

    OK viking fans.
    Moss is gone and we are all going to have to deal with it. Now that moss is gone, we can look forward to having possibly one of the best defensive teams in the NFL. Everyone needs to think of the possibilitites.

    I think our offense will be OK next year. We will have culpepper throwing mostly to Burleson who I think will have a breakout season ast the first reciever. Behind him we dont have much but have the possibility of getting Mason or Muhsin if we can put up the money. We will also have Jim Kleinsasser and Mike Rosenthal back from injuries which will make our blocking game twice as good giving culpepper more time to throw. I am hoping to have Wiggins back also who has proved that he is a reliable player to throw to on 3rd down.

    As far as our defense goes, I can see us being very good next year. I think if we can grab a FA like Bell and pick Johnson in the draft we can switch to a 3-4. That way Our front seven will most likely be The Animal, Udeze (breakout year), Mixon, Bell/EJ, Napoleon, Johnson, Claiborne. That is a good front 7.

    In the defensive secondary we will have a healthy Antoine Winfield as well as Brian Williams. I am hoping that with the 18th pick we select Antrel Rolle. That makes our DB's Very good. Tice has already said he would like to take a quality FA safety and anything is better than Russell. That would give us one of the best defensive backfileds in the NFL.

    Special teams needs some work. We will have to pick up Feely who we are showing some major interest in and has proven that he is a solid kicker in the past. If we can pick him up then he can do kickoffs and field goals. I think Bennett will be back because he deserves antother shot at being a quality punter. Raonall smith is a beast on special teams and will help our coverage after his injury.


    Our running backs are now going to have to show if they have what it takes to play without Moss in the lineup. I say we start Mewelde Moore at the start of the season and see how he does. If he doesn't play the way he is capable of then we should alternate between Onterrio and Bennett until one of them shows signs of being a better player.

    Overall we look like a quality team that should be ready for '05,'06 and I am hyped to see our first SB under a GOOD D.

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    get ready for next season and forget about moss

    Good post ppe. Next year will definitely be a big challenge for Daunte and the coaching staff.

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    get ready for next season and forget about moss

    no way antrell rolle will fall that far

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    Re: get ready for next season and forget about moss

    "PurplePeopleEaters" wrote:
    OK viking fans.
    Moss is gone and we are all going to have to deal with it. Now that moss is gone, we can look forward to having possibly one of the best defensive teams in the NFL. Everyone needs to think of the possibilitites.

    I think our offense will be OK next year. We will have culpepper throwing mostly to Burleson who I think will have a breakout season ast the first reciever. Behind him we dont have much but have the possibility of getting Mason or Muhsin if we can put up the money. We will also have Jim Kleinsasser and Mike Rosenthal back from injuries which will make our blocking game twice as good giving culpepper more time to throw. I am hoping to have Wiggins back also who has proved that he is a reliable player to throw to on 3rd down.

    As far as our defense goes, I can see us being very good next year. I think if we can grab a FA like Bell and pick Johnson in the draft we can switch to a 3-4. That way Our front seven will most likely be The Animal, Udeze (breakout year), Mixon, Bell/EJ, Napoleon, Johnson, Claiborne. That is a good front 7.

    In the defensive secondary we will have a healthy Antoine Winfield as well as Brian Williams. I am hoping that with the 18th pick we select Antrel Rolle. That makes our DB's Very good. Tice has already said he would like to take a quality FA safety and anything is better than Russell. That would give us one of the best defensive backfileds in the NFL.

    Special teams needs some work. We will have to pick up Feely who we are showing some major interest in and has proven that he is a solid kicker in the past. If we can pick him up then he can do kickoffs and field goals. I think Bennett will be back because he deserves antother shot at being a quality punter. Raonall smith is a beast on special teams and will help our coverage after his injury.


    Our running backs are now going to have to show if they have what it takes to play without Moss in the lineup. I say we start Mewelde Moore at the start of the season and see how he does. If he doesn't play the way he is capable of then we should alternate between Onterrio and Bennett until one of them shows signs of being a better player.


    Overall we look like a quality team that should be ready for '05,'06 and I am hyped to see our first SB under a GOOD D.
    this is all very optimistic. it could go the other way though, we could get worse on D or even worse than that..our D won't change at all meaning the Moss trade would be for nothing.

    in bold--this is our most major problem with the offense! not Moss leaving, not Culp having more time.... I hate RB postion battles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    They don't work! Pick one to start every game unless out caused by injury or suspension! we need a feature back... i repeat, we need a feature back! alternating is only good to give your feature back a rest not because baby bennett wants his playing time. if we have an effective running game with one featured back, Culp and the throwing game will thrive. since the vikes are in the mood to get rid of players, let's continue with a RB--i don't even care which one leaves <cough--"bennett">... cutting one will help stabilize the run game.

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    get ready for next season and forget about moss

    "ADubya26" wrote:
    Good post ppe. Next year will definitely be a big challenge for Daunte and the coaching staff.
    agreed
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    get ready for next season and forget about moss

    I agree with PA, we need one running back to start every game, having one out there and 2 sitting on the bench bitching doesnt help us win. I say we trade one (onterrio or bennet) plus we still have mo (who I really like) and the one we didn't trade plus a defensive player. I would prefer to trade bennet though, because if onterrio cleans up his act, he has the potential to be a smashmouth running back.

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    get ready for next season and forget about moss

    That was also the main problem with the vikes that I have. That and speacial teams.

    I also know that I am being a bit too optimistic but we all need to stay as optomistic as possible. THe glass is half full because we have a chance to make a big impact on the NFL and perhaps a run at the playoffs.

    I have been going over the possibilities on my head since I made this post and have decided that we really don't need a 3-4. If we can just get johnson in the draft and pick a lineman with the 18th pick we would do well also. THis would mean that we would possibly have to get smoot which I have no problem with whatsoever.

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    get ready for next season and forget about moss

    The thing that all Super Bowl teams in the last 3-4 years is good to great Defenses and Special Teams. An offensive-oriented team hasn't won a SB since the Rams in '00.

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    Re: get ready for next season and forget about moss

    Allow me to comment/rebut your points one by one. I'll offer my own constructive opinion where merited

    "PurplePeopleEaters" wrote:
    OK viking fans.
    Moss is gone and we are all going to have to deal with it. Now that moss is gone, we can look forward to having possibly one of the best defensive teams in the NFL. Everyone needs to think of the possibilitites.
    We could have looked forward "to having possibly one of the best defensive teams in the NFL" without trading Moss. By all accounts, Harris isn't much of an improvement, if any. The only improvements we will see are via the #7 pick (possible, but unlikely in 2005), and via free agency (which we didn't need to trade Moss to be a major player in)

    "PurplePeopleEaters" wrote:
    I think our offense will be OK next year. We will have culpepper throwing mostly to Burleson who I think will have a breakout season ast the first reciever.
    Perhaps, but now Burleson may see the double coverage, as opposed to the single coverage he usually got because Moss drew an extra defender.

    "PurplePeopleEaters" wrote:
    Behind him we dont have much but have the possibility of getting Mason or Muhsin if we can put up the money.
    Agreed, if they are intelligent enough to pick up a Pro Bowl caliber receiver like one of these two.

    "PurplePeopleEaters" wrote:
    We will also have Jim Kleinsasser and Mike Rosenthal back from injuries which will make our blocking game twice as good giving culpepper more time to throw. I am hoping to have Wiggins back also who has proved that he is a reliable player to throw to on 3rd down.
    Again, Moss' presence (or lack thereof) had no impact on these facts.

    "PurplePeopleEaters" wrote:
    As far as our defense goes, I can see us being very good next year. I think if we can grab a FA like Bell and pick Johnson in the draft we can switch to a 3-4. That way Our front seven will most likely be The Animal, Udeze (breakout year), Mixon, Bell/EJ, Napoleon, Johnson, Claiborne. That is a good front 7.
    First, I hope the Vikings never go to a 3-4. In order to run a 3-4, you need a huge, run-stuffing nose tackle. That is not KWill's game. Second, Mixon is as good as gone. He will count almost $4 million in salary against the cap this year, and his production hasn't earned that. He will be a June 1st cut, as the Vikings go with younger and cheaper players. Third, Claiborne is a free agent. While I sincerely hope the Vikings re-sign him, it isn't a done deal, and they have encouraged him to shop himself. Fourth, Harris struggled last year in Oakland in the 3-4. From what I've heard, he is average at best. Now, Kendrell Bell might be a good free agent pickup at MLB, I'll at least give you that. I wouldn't count on Johnson being there at #7.

    "PurplePeopleEaters" wrote:
    In the defensive secondary we will have a healthy Antoine Winfield as well as Brian Williams. I am hoping that with the 18th pick we select Antrel Rolle. That makes our DB's Very good. Tice has already said he would like to take a quality FA safety and anything is better than Russell. That would give us one of the best defensive backfileds in the NFL.
    You are dreaming if you think Antrel Rolle will be available at the #18 pick. We may be lucky to get him with the #7 pick; he could go higher than that. Even though Donovan Darius got the franchise tag, Kenoy Kennedy and Sammy Knight are still out there at safety, and there are several pretty good cornerbacks available which might result in Brian Williams being moved to safety.

    "PurplePeopleEaters" wrote:
    Special teams needs some work. We will have to pick up Feely who we are showing some major interest in and has proven that he is a solid kicker in the past. If we can pick him up then he can do kickoffs and field goals. I think Bennett will be back because he deserves antother shot at being a quality punter. Raonall smith is a beast on special teams and will help our coverage after his injury.
    I'm not impressed with Feely. Look at his stats the past two seasons. He has range, but he's missed 4 FGs of less than 40 yards, and his consistency between 40-49 is nothing to get excited about. I like Bennett, but he disappointed me for much of last season. He will probably be back because there aren't really many much better options out there. Now, I'd take Vanderjagt in a heartbeat if he became available, but he can't kick off and the Vikings would have to keep a kickoff specialist or get a punter that could kick off and punt.


    "PurplePeopleEaters" wrote:
    Our running backs are now going to have to show if they have what it takes to play without Moss in the lineup. I say we start Mewelde Moore at the start of the season and see how he does. If he doesn't play the way he is capable of then we should alternate between Onterrio and Bennett until one of them shows signs of being a better player.
    No problem with this comment. Moore looked very multi-dimensional and elusive when he was in there early in the season.

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    Overall we look like a quality team that should be ready for '05,'06 and I am hyped to see our first SB under a GOOD D.
    The Vikings have yet to assemble that "GOOD D".

    One, I am not convinced in the least that the defense is improved with the addition of Harris. Now, the Vikings have to go out and replace Moss with a lesser, but hopefully quality wideout.

    The Vikings need to spend some big money in free agency to pacify me THIS YEAR to compensate for losing Moss. Hell, they should have been spending that big money anyway to improve the defense. Here are my votes....

    1. Sign a veteran WR to replace Moss. I can't decide who, but I'm leaning toward Muhammed. He is the oldest of the bunch at 32 (when the season starts), but has decent size at 6-2 and is coming off his most productive season. Mason has been consistently productive, but is 31 and is only 5-10. Burress is young and has the size, but is inconsistent and may be a head case himself. Laverneus Coles may be available, and is young and productive, but dropped many balls this year and is only 5-11. TJ Houshmanzadeh is a dark horse coming out of Cincinnati, coming off his best season in limited duty. As Burleson is only 6-0, I think the Vikings need to get someone with size, as both Cris Carter and Moss had.

    2. Sign Panthers RFA OLB Will Witherspoon to an offer sheet, and give the Panthers the Vikings first round pick (#18 overall) if they don't match the offer sheet. Witherspoon is light at 231, but he's fast and can cover the pass. He had 103 tackles, 3 sacks, 4 interceptions, and 8 passes defended in 2004. He'll only be 25 when the season starts. I'll take a proven player over a unknown draft pick almost any day.

    3. Sign a quality DB of some sort. I can't say who right now...Smoot or Lucas at CB, moving Brian Williams to S, or Kennedy or Knight at S. Stay away from Samari Rolle.

    4. Draft the best available defensive player at #7. I'd consider WR Braylon Edwards or Mike Williams at this pick, but I think the Vikings need D more than they need another WR.
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    get ready for next season and forget about moss

    Forget about Moss? Sorry buddy, not gonna happen. Whether you like the trade or not, over the last 7 years Randy Moss has become our guy. He is our franchise player, and affected our team in so many ways, good and bad. He has made a huge mark on Vikings history. Even for many of us that were fans for many years before Moss came along, Moss became as much a Viking icon as Brett Favre was a Packer icon. Asking people to just forget him and move on is ridiculous.

    You can be sure that talk about this trade and Moss will die down some but it will continue on and off for months, maybe even longer. And even if it stops during this offseason, it will pick right back up again when the season starts and Moss has his first play as an Oakland Raider. All eyes will be on Moss.

    I am optimistic about the trade, and I'm behind the Vikings 100%. I think we'll be fine, if not better. But if you are already tired of people venting about this, I think you'll have to deal with it a lot longer than you realize.
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