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    Re: Frazier is sticking to plan, which is Peterson

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    It's Favre's fault he got hit.
    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

    Yeah, what the hell.....blame Favre because that big Doodle Mac got winded and gave up too quick.

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    Re: Frazier is sticking to plan, which is Peterson

    Quote Originally Posted by "Mr Anderson" #1082377
    The pass protection failed when the ball is snapped at 13:43 and he's sacked at 13:38?
    Wow....Back to the Future all over again!!!k

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    Re: Frazier is sticking to plan, which is Peterson

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    Quote Originally Posted by "Mr Anderson" #1082377
    The pass protection failed when the ball is snapped at 13:43 and he's sacked at 13:38?
    Wow....Back to the Future all over again!!!k

    The clock does tick down in football.

    I mean American Football, by the way.

    Each quarter is 15:00 and counts down to 00:00.

    So 13:43(snap), 13:42, 13:41, 13:40, 13:39, 13:38(hit).

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    Re: Frazier is sticking to plan, which is Peterson

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    He had 4+ seconds to throw. The guy who hit him got taken 10 yards deep into the backfield by McKinnie and ran another 10 to hit Favre.

    And leisurely walked back to the line? What's he supposed to do? Teleport 15 yards and save Favre from the hit?
    Again, Mac should have kept driving the guy the same way they were going.

    Even a Doodle should be able to figure out that Favre wasn't going to be back there.

    But Mac got winded with 8 yards of work, so he quit. Maybe it's in his union contract. Take a guy 8 yards and you get a break.....to hell with your QB.

    Oh, and Favre had less than 3.5 seconds.....not much for a rollout.

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    Re: Frazier is sticking to plan, which is Peterson

    Quote Originally Posted by "Infidel" #1082387
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    He had 4+ seconds to throw. The guy who hit him got taken 10 yards deep into the backfield by McKinnie and ran another 10 to hit Favre.

    And leisurely walked back to the line? What's he supposed to do? Teleport 15 yards and save Favre from the hit?
    Again, Mac should have kept driving the guy the same way they were going.

    Even a Doodle should be able to figure out that Favre wasn't going to be back there.

    But Mac got winded with 8 yards of work, so he quit. Maybe it's in his union contract. Take a guy 8 yards and you get a break.....to hell with your QB.

    Oh, and Favre had less than 3.5 seconds.....not much for a rollout.
    He couldn't have continued to drive the guy without holding him. The guy was faster than him, as most linebackers are faster than offensive linemen and he gave him a final shove. Putting him 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage. He took the guy out of the play, Favre brought him back in.

    You simply cannot hold the ball for 4 seconds NFL team brings 5. ESPECIALLY on a rollout. If you're offensive line isn't sure where you are, but the defense can see you, they're at a disadvantage. The only way to stop a guy from escaping you laterally or backwards is to hold him. Rollouts can buy time in the NFL when you don't have a rookie RB making the most important block on a defensive end, or when you have a QB that can actually move.

    I see 4 seconds to throw, that's enough. If anything, this is a coverage sack(despite not being a sack, so I guess it's a "coverage hit.") There was adequate time for him to get rid of the ball. He tried to do too much, again, and we paid the price, again. He's been making plays like this all season.

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    Re: Frazier is sticking to plan, which is Peterson

    It was 3.5 seconds at most.

    And all you're really saying is that Mac got beat.

    I agree, except that he basically let himself get beat by quitting.

    Come on....the big fat Doodle obviously did what he thought was enough......and then he quit......just a tenth of a second too soon and Favre was hit as he threw that ball.

    Favre can't CHOOSE exactly when to throw....he was watching a receiver and threw at the right time.

    His pass protection failed.

    And Favre got hurt because of it.
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    Re: Frazier is sticking to plan, which is Peterson

    Quote Originally Posted by "Infidel" #1082394
    It was 3.5 seconds at most.

    And all you're really saying is that Mac got beat.

    I agree, except that he basically let himself get beat by quitting.

    Come on....the big fat Doodle obviously did what he thought was enough......and then he quit......just a tenth of a second too soon and Favre was hit as he threw that ball.

    Favre can't CHOOSE exactly when to throw....he was watching a receiver and threw at the right time.

    His pass protection failed.

    And Favre got hurt because of it.
    McKinnie didn't quit on the play. McKinnie didn't quit on the play.

    He took the guy as far into the backfield as he could and eventually got outran. He took the guy as far into the backfield as he could and eventually got outran.

    He then gave a final shove in order to further remove the defensive player from Favre. He then gave a final shove in order to further remove the defensive player from Favre.

    Favre held onto the ball for too long, the announcer even said it. Favre held onto the ball for too long, the announcer even said it.

    It's the line's responsibility to protect the QB, but it's equally important for the QB to protect himself. It's the line's responsibility to protect the QB, but it's equally important for the QB to protect himself.

    A wanna-be hero will make his offensive line look a lot worse than they really are. A wanna-be hero will make his offensive line look a lot worse than they really are.

    McKinnie didn't quit on the play. McKinnie didn't quit on the play.

    He took the guy as far into the backfield as he could and eventually got outran. He took the guy as far into the backfield as he could and eventually got outran.

    He then gave a final shove in order to further remove the defensive player from Favre. He then gave a final shove in order to further remove the defensive player from Favre.

    Favre held onto the ball for too long, the announcer even said it. Favre held onto the ball for too long, the announcer even said it.
    It's the line's responsibility to protect the QB, but it's equally important for the QB to protect himself. It's the line's responsibility to protect the QB, but it's equally important for the QB to protect himself.

    A wanna-be hero will make his offensive line look a lot worse than they really are. A wanna-be hero will make his offensive line look a lot worse than they really are.

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    Re: Frazier is sticking to plan, which is Peterson

    That's ridiculous. That's ridiculous.

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    Re: Frazier is sticking to plan, which is Peterson

    Quote Originally Posted by "Mr Anderson" #1082406
    Quote Originally Posted by "Infidel" #1082394
    It was 3.5 seconds at most.

    And all you're really saying is that Mac got beat.

    I agree, except that he basically let himself get beat by quitting.

    Come on....the big fat Doodle obviously did what he thought was enough......and then he quit......just a tenth of a second too soon and Favre was hit as he threw that ball.

    Favre can't CHOOSE exactly when to throw....he was watching a receiver and threw at the right time.

    His pass protection failed.

    And Favre got hurt because of it.
    McKinnie didn't quit on the play. McKinnie didn't quit on the play.

    He took the guy as far into the backfield as he could and eventually got outran. He took the guy as far into the backfield as he could and eventually got outran.

    He then gave a final shove in order to further remove the defensive player from Favre. He then gave a final shove in order to further remove the defensive player from Favre.

    Favre held onto the ball for too long, the announcer even said it. Favre held onto the ball for too long, the announcer even said it.

    It's the line's responsibility to protect the QB, but it's equally important for the QB to protect himself. It's the line's responsibility to protect the QB, but it's equally important for the QB to protect himself.

    A wanna-be hero will make his offensive line look a lot worse than they really are. A wanna-be hero will make his offensive line look a lot worse than they really are.

    McKinnie didn't quit on the play. McKinnie didn't quit on the play.

    He took the guy as far into the backfield as he could and eventually got outran. He took the guy as far into the backfield as he could and eventually got outran.

    He then gave a final shove in order to further remove the defensive player from Favre. He then gave a final shove in order to further remove the defensive player from Favre.

    Favre held onto the ball for too long, the announcer even said it. Favre held onto the ball for too long, the announcer even said it.
    It's the line's responsibility to protect the QB, but it's equally important for the QB to protect himself. It's the line's responsibility to protect the QB, but it's equally important for the QB to protect himself.

    A wanna-be hero will make his offensive line look a lot worse than they really are. A wanna-be hero will make his offensive line look a lot worse than they really are.
    Ummm. Could you repeat the part about the thing?.......

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    But the announcer even said it....the announcer even said it!

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