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    Re: Foley will sue Vikings

    Ok, wait a minute! This is in no way a defense for FRAN STUPID, but let's back away from the table and rethink this whole issue. No, not the Foley firing,.... HOW ABOUT THE FOLEY HIRING?

    Anyone, cough, cough, Zygi, :roll: making the mistake of hiring a BOOB like Foley in the first place shouldn't get a pass on the HIRING of his Head Coach either!

    I've never liked the Childress hire, I've never liked the thought that Zygi put so much faith into a 27 year QB coach who worked his last 7 years in the league as the clip board boy for Andy Reid, a total control freak! I've questioned the quick hire by Zygi, just 4 days after firing Meathead, and if anyone here thinks that Childress didn't have any say so in this past weekends draft, you need to find another hobby cause the draft is not your forte!

    All I'm saying in this post is if Zygi could SCREW UP SO BIG on the hiring Fran Foley, who's to say the same can't apply for Brad Childress, a second tier coach in my humble opinion, until proven otherwise?
    Foley was recommended to Vikings owner Zygi Wilf by a committee of three -- capologist Rob Brzezinski, legal counsel Kevin Warren and coach Brad Childress.

    Or, as we should call them now, See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil.

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    Re: Foley will sue Vikings

    wee by foley shoudl taken the seberance package, glad he is gone

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    Posted on Wed, May. 03, 2006

    [size=18px]Foley won't leave Vikings without a fight[/size]

    BY SEAN JENSEN
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    ST. PAUL, Minn. - The Vikings have been trying to start anew under owner Zygi Wilf. But the franchise continues to be dogged by drama. The latest episode razed one corner of the team's Triangle of Authority, thwarted an anticipated "bloodbath" in the scouting department and will be settled by NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue.

    Just before noon Wednesday, the Vikings released a one-sentence statement relaying that the team had "terminated the employment contract of vice president of player personnel Fran Foley." Later in the afternoon, Foley's attorney, Jeffrey Kessler, said his client was "wrongfully terminated" and that he would seek full compensation for the three-year deal Foley signed in late January, as well as "additional damages."

    Kessler declined to comment on the value of Foley's contract. But a source close to the team said the total was more than in excess of $1 million.

    "It's shocking to us that the Vikings are refusing to honor his contract, after inducing him to leave his job in San Diego, where he was quite happy and successful," said Kessler, a partner at Dewey Ballantine LLP. "The reason we're shocked is the emphasis the club and owner in particular have put out to adhering to a code of conduct and ethical standards. You'd think it would start with honoring contracts."

    Foley did not return a message left on his cell phone, and Wilf could not be reached for comment. Kevin Warren, the Vikings' vice president of operations and legal counsel, spoke on behalf of the team Wednesday evening.

    "Due to the sensitivity of this issue, we cannot and will not address any specifics of Fran Foley's termination," Warren said. "In the best interests of the Vikings organization and the future of the franchise, we felt his employment should be terminated. We want to treat Fran with respect, just like we would with any employee, whether they have a contract or not.

    "The Wilfs really want to focus on the future, and they are doing all they can to build a world-class franchise on and off the field."

    Kessler and Foley aren't ready to move on. The attorney, Kessler, has a long track record of successfully litigating major sports lawsuits, including McNeil versus the NFL, the landmark antitrust jury trial in Minneapolis that resulted in the establishment of the league's free agency system. Kessler also has been the principal lawyer for the NFL Players Association since 1989, and he played a central role in last month's new collective bargaining agreement.

    Kessler said he would send a notice of arbitration to the NFL on Thursday, and he expected Tagliabue to oversee a full hearing. The timetable is unclear.

    Kessler intends to cite documents and call upon witnesses, including Wilf and Vikings coach Brad Childress.

    Kessler said attempts Tuesday to reach a settlement between the team and Foley were unproductive. Instead, the Vikings terminated Foley and said they were not obligated to fulfill the terms of his contract. A settlement remains possible.

    Asked if biographical information Foley used on his resume, embellishing his titles during his college coaching career and the length of his college playing career played a role in his ouster, Kessler said, "There was no violation of the code of conduct.

    "In fact, the owner both assured Mr. Foley himself privately and publicly that that wasn't an issue," Kessler said. "We're talking to issues about how many years he played at Framingham State? Do we think that had anything to do with why the Vikings hired him? No. They hired him because of his extraordinary track record with the (Jacksonville) Jaguars and (San Diego) Chargers, and the recommendations he received with the people he formerly worked with."

    Sources close to the team said Tuesday and Wednesday that the Vikings were displeased with Foley's abrasive personality. Foley had disagreements with several staffers, the sources said, including Childress, and he told an assistant last week to take Monday and Tuesday off because there would be a "bloodbath," a reference to his plan to dismiss most of the team's scouts.

    The scouts' contracts expire at the end of this month. Among those rumored to be in danger was Scott Studwell, the director of college scouting.

    Asked about Foley's reputation of not getting along with other Vikings employees, Kessler said, "If that was the reason, then they have to pay him under the terms of the contract.

    "We think this has to do with a desire of others in the organization to have control. They didn't want to share that control, even though Mr. Foley was hired to be in charge of player personnel, reporting only to the owner."

    Chargers general manager A.J. Smith said the NFL has been abuzz over Foley's ouster. "Everyone's kind of talking about it," Smith said. "I can't comment on his Minnesota experience. I can only comment on his three years working here. He was a guy who worked hard, got along with everyone and did everything that was expected of him. He's a good person, a good family man."

    Smith said Foley wasn't hired because of his resume and that he would rehire him - if he had a vacancy job. Said Kessler, "It's particularly outrageous, because (the Vikings) lured him away from another job. They've left him in a very difficult position for this year."

    Now, Tagliabue will have to address the issue. "(The Vikings) negotiated a guaranteed contract with Mr. Foley," Kessler said. "If they fire him, they have to pay him."

    Foley won't leave Vikings without a fight

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    POSTED 6:43 a.m. EDT, May 4, 2006

    FOLEY MIGHT BE BLACKBALLING HIMSELF
    Mike Florio

    As if Fran Foley's escapades with his resume weren't enough to make teams less inclined to consider him for employment, there's a feeling in some league circles that his decision to file a claim against the Vikings for the balance of his contract will slam the door on his ability to secure future employment with any NFL club.

    Making matters worse is Foley's decision to allow his attorney, Jeffrey Kessler, to make public comments critical of Foley's former employer.

    On Wednesday, Kessler suggested that the Vikings' decision not to buy out Foleys contract was not ethical. According to the AP, Kessler continues to bash the team: "Mr. Foley had a guaranteed contract and the Vikings breached that contract," Kessler said, "They induced him to leave a job he was very happy at in San Diego by offering that guaranteed contract."

    Look, the NFL is a small, tightly-knit industry. Owners generally are cautious and conservative. They prefer to avoid behavior that could be construed as disrespectful to a fellow owner (except, of course, when it comes to something important, like revenue sharing).

    The question that any owner considering Foley must consider is this: Is hiring Foley worth all the headaches?

    First will be the P.R. hit in the local media. Second will be the question of whether Foley can be trusted. Third will be the potential hard feelings from the Vikings (even though continued employment by an NFL club will reduce the maximum amount the Vikes ultimately might owe to Foley). Fourth will be the basic fear that, if the team that hires Foley chooses to fire him prematurely, the new employer could face an arbitration claim along with inflammatory public statements from Foley's lawyer.

    Foley's best play, in our view, would have been to resign quietly, and to hope that someone like his former boss Tom Coughlin could hook him up with a new gig.

    As we explained on April 22:

    "After the draft, Wilf should ask Foley to step aside. And if Foley truly 'gets it,' he shouldn't have to be asked to leave."


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    Fran Foley reportedly told an assistant to take Monday and Tuesday of this week off because there would be a "bloodbath" in the Vikings' scouting department. (Little did Foley realize that the blood he would be bathing in was his own.)

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    POSTED 10:04 p.m. EDT, May 3, 2006

    WILL VIKES GET IT RIGHT THIS TIME?

    The most pressing question in the wake of the Vikings' stunning-but-not-surprising decision to part ways with V.P. of player personnel Fran Foley is whether, given a new chance to hire a guy with "final say" over the roster, the organization will alter the approach that resulted in Foley getting hired in the first place.

    The unanimous opinion of a variety of league and industry sources from whom we've heard over the past couple of weeks is that Foley is a lightweight who never should have gotten the job.

    So why did he get the job?

    Several sources have opined that the move was aimed at ensuring a high level of influence for V.P. of football operations Rob Brzezinski, V.P. of operations and legal counsel Kevin Warren, and coach Brad Childress. Since, as the theory goes, Foley didn't come through the door as an ass-kicker and name-taker, Brzezinski, Warren, and Childress would have more juice.

    "THIS IS ABOUT TURF PROTECTION," as one league source with extensive knowledge regarding the operation of NFL front offices has explained to us via a Wednesday night e-mail, using all caps for emphasis.

    The central figure in all of this, as the source opined, is Brzezinski. It was Brzezinksi, after all, who cozied up to Zygi Wilf last season, sitting next to him in the owner's box and securing the owner's trust. So at a time when Wilf couldn't call up any of the other 31 members of the Billionaire Boys Club and ask for basic advice on how to run a pro football team, Wilf did the only thing that he could.

    He gave Brzezinski a significant voice in the process.

    And as another source previously has explained, part of the problem is that Wilf didn't appreciate the importance of a personnel chief to the team, budgeting something in the neighborhood of $500,000 per year for the job. Indeed, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reports that the three-year deal is believed to be worth in excess of $1 million.

    Wilf's focus was the coaching position. It appears in hindsight that he focused on it too much.

    Our recommendation for a next step? Hire a respected person from an organization with a proven track record of success and give him the reins.

    And spend the money necessary to make it happen.

    Here's the interview list we'd compile, right now, in no particular order: Kevin Colbert of the Steelers, Jason Licht of the Eagles, Scott Pioli of the Patriots, Chris Polian of the Colts, Jerry Reese of the Giants, Dan Rooney Jr. of the Steelers, Ted Sundquist of the Broncos, Mike Lombardi of the Raiders, Eric DeCosta of the Ravens, Greg Gabriel of the Bears, Ruston Webster of the Bucs.

    None have "final say" -- thus, any of them can be hired as long as they get "final say" in Minnesota.

    We're not saying which one of these guys we'd ultimately hire. The final decision depends on the manner in which the candidate fits within the existing structure.

    But we'd interview all of them, and we'd hire one of them.

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    POSTED 9:28 p.m. EDT, May 3, 2006

    FOLEY GOING WAPNER AGAINST VIKES

    The Minnesota Vikings have terminated V.P. of player personnel Fran Foley.

    And per Kevin Seifert of the Minneapolis Star Tribune, Foley plans to file an arbitration claim against the team for the balance of his three-year contract, after he and the team were unable to work out a buyout.

    Foley is being represented by Jeffrey Kessler, who most recently represented T.O. in his failed arbitration -- and who then stuck it to the NFL at the bargaining table regarding the new non-economic terms of the CBA.

    Kessler claims that Foley was "wrongfully terminated," but the claim for the balance of the contract likely arises from the standard practice in the industry that coaching and executive contracts are honored if terminated by the club, minus any earnings that the guy realizes with another NFL team.

    "The Vikings are refusing to honor his contract," Kessler said, "which we find shocking for a club who has made such a major public stance on being ethical and having a code of conduct." (Um . . . Jeff, we wouldn't hammer on that whole "code of conduct" thing, in light of your client's misadventures with, you know, the truth.)

    The Vikings are taking the position that the termination was "for cause," and that the team therefore is not obligated to honor his contract. We've heard that the decision was motivated both by Foley's resume inaccuracies and by the simple fact that he couldn't get along with anyone in his short stint with the team.

    Kessler claims that the move was the result "of some type of internal issue created by people who did not want Mr. Foley to have the job in the first place."

    Sorry, Jeff, but your theory is too esoteric. How is it that these people who didn't want Foley in the first place were later able to run him out the door? Even if it's true, it's because Foley gift-wrapped his own pink slip via his incredibly poor handling of the resume issue.

    Moving forward, look for the Vikings to dispatch an army of lawyers to gather as much dirt as possible regarding anything in Foley's resume or background that would reflect poorly on him, or that would suggest further evidence of lying. Even if not directly (or indirectly) relevant to the question of whether Foley should not get paid, the approach in cases of this nature is to get the decision-maker to focus generally on whether the claimant is worthy of the relief he or she seeks. If the Vikes can make enough poop stick to Fran, the Commish (who apparently will preside over the matter) might decide that Foley shouldn't get a dime.

    And given that Jeff Kessler personally was responsible for recently breaking one off in the NFL's hind quarters, we wonder whether he's the best choice to represent Foley. The quick hiring of Kessler has prompted speculation that Foley is represented by Tom Condon and/or Ken Kremer, given Kessler's close ties to the former IMG duo that recently jumped to Creative Artists Agency. Regardless, it's not a good thing for Foley if the decision-maker is disinclined to agree with Kessler (consciously or not) given Kessler's key role on behalf of the players' union.

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    [size=18px]Foley full of bologna[/size]
    By Eric Krupka
    5/4/06
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    Remember the days when mom would say, "it's not good to lie," or you would hear the cliché, "you're full of bologna?"

    Maybe Fran Foley should have listened.

    On Wednesday, the Minnesota Vikings fired the Vice President of Player Personnel because, well for lack of a better term, he was "full of bologna."

    Foley's tenure in Minnesota will certainly go down as one of the shortest in recent memory as far as personnel directors go. Heeding the advice of NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue, owner Zygi Wilf hired a search team to fill the position, which was abolished by previous penny-pinching owner Red McCombs.

    Foley previously served nine years under head coach and general manager Tom Coughlin in Jacksonville, and spent the previous three years in the San Diego Chargers ' front office under the title of Director of Pro Scouting.

    Upon his arrival to the "Twin Cities," he became part of the "Triangle of Authority," along with head coach Brad Childress and VP of Football Operations Rob Brzezinski.

    In recent weeks, news that Foley had embellished his resume a la former Vikings assistant George O'Leary became apparent. The resume he turned into Wilf when interviewing for the position said that he was a coach with the Citadel, Rutgers, and Colgate, when in actuality he held a job similar to a graduate assistant. He also stated that he played four seasons at Framingham State, when he only played two.

    Now, I'm from the school of thought that if he earned the job based on what he did with the Chargers and previously with the Jacksonville Jaguars , it shouldn't matter what his resume says. But then again, the Vikings' organization isn't going to put up with what they feel is unethical, so they cannot make exceptions.

    After inappropriate and unacceptable behavior that Vikings fans were becoming accustomed to from the organization, Wilf issued a 77-page code of conduct for players and employees back in November. Foley's falsifying of his resume could be seen as a violation of that code. It certainly doesn't help the organization that is trying to clean up its image in hopes of coaxing the state of Minnesota into forking over a new stadium.

    This past weekend's draft, headed by Foley, also drew the ire of fans. Now it's certainly too soon to pass judgment on the draft, as none of the players have stepped on the field for a single play yet. However, drafting a backup center in the second round (Ryan Cook), projected by many to be a late-round pick is a head scratcher, especially when All-Pro Matt Birk is already on the roster.

    Foley plans to sue the organization for "wrongfully terminating" him, in an effort to receive the full value of the contract he signed in January.

    Still, it comes down to character, and the Minnesota Vikings as an organization are trying to sweep, actually...swiffer away the dirt and problems to give a nice, clean, respectable look to it. Kind of like using Windex on a dirty window to bring the shine back.

    Frankly, Foley you're full of bologna, and now you're in the unemployment line.


    -Eric Krupka can be reached at [email protected]

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    [quote="singersp"]Posted on Wed, May. 03, 2006

    [size=18px]Foley won't leave Vikings without a fight[/size]

    "The Vikings have been trying to start anew under owner Zygi Wilf. But the franchise continues to be dogged by drama. The latest episode razed one corner of the team's Triangle of Authority, thwarted an anticipated "bloodbath" in the scouting department and will be settled by NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue."

    "Sources close to the team said Tuesday and Wednesday that the Vikings were displeased with Foley's abrasive personality. Foley had disagreements with several staffers, the sources said, including Childress, and he told an assistant last week to take Monday and Tuesday off because there would be a "bloodbath," a reference to his plan to dismiss most of the team's scouts."

    "The scouts' contracts expire at the end of this month. Among those rumored to be in danger was Scott Studwell, the director of college scouting."

    "Chargers general manager A.J. Smith said the NFL has been abuzz over Foley's ouster. "Everyone's kind of talking about it," Smith said. "I can't comment on his Minnesota experience. I can only comment on his three years working here. He was a guy who worked hard, got along with everyone and did everything that was expected of him. He's a good person, a good family man."

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    Dis mug is a good family man, a mug dat got along wit' everyone, an' he was gonna cause a bloodbath wit' da scouts? HAH! :roll:
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    "Smith said Foley wasn't hired because of his resume and that he would rehire him - if he had a vacancy job. Said Kessler, "It's particularly outrageous, because (the Vikings) lured him away from another job. They've left him in a very difficult position for this year."
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    Awwwww.... da poor baby! He's gonna be in a difficult position dis year! :boohoo:

    I tink it's good we got rid of dis mug when we did, y'know? No tellin' how much damage he might have caused. Studwell would have been gone for sure.

    Wilf's kinda havin' problems gettin' his org off da ground, but den, he's new. He'll loin.
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    Ok, wait a minute! This is in no way a defense for FRAN STUPID, but let's back away from the table and rethink this whole issue. No, not the Foley firing,.... HOW ABOUT THE FOLEY HIRING?

    Anyone, cough, cough, Zygi, :roll: making the mistake of hiring a BOOB like Foley in the first place shouldn't get a pass on the HIRING of his Head Coach either!

    I've never liked the Childress hire, I've never liked the thought that Zygi put so much faith into a 27 year QB coach who worked his last 7 years in the league as the clip board boy for Andy Reid, a total control freak! I've questioned the quick hire by Zygi, just 4 days after firing Meathead, and if anyone here thinks that Childress didn't have any say so in this past weekends draft, you need to find another hobby cause the draft is not your forte!

    All I'm saying in this post is if Zygi could SCREW UP SO BIG on the hiring Fran Foley, who's to say the same can't apply for Brad Childress, a second tier coach in my humble opinion, until proven otherwise?
    Foley was recommended to Vikings owner Zygi Wilf by a committee of three -- capologist Rob Brzezinski, legal counsel Kevin Warren and coach Brad Childress.

    Or, as we should call them now, See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil.
    We've seen what Foley can do, which is drafting stoopidly.

    We haven't seen what Childress can do yet, which is coach winning football.

    Give him his chance, y'know?
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    Foley is a moron. I am not saying that I havent polished up the ole resume, but when your caught your caught.

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    I don't get the lawsuit. MN is a "at will" state. You can be fired for any reason unless it is discrimination. Unless he can prove he was fired because of his religion, sex, color, age, creed, etc. nothing should come of this.

    What a waste of time and money. Atleast the press will have a hayday.

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