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    FIRE TILLMAN!!!

    "snowinapril" wrote:
    "whackthepack" wrote:
    It's not even the kicking or punting as much as the cover units and who and where they are on the field.

    They are always trying new guys at coverage and it never gets better, and I blame that on Tillman and think that he is not the answer.
    Injuries are playing a big part in the personel.

    The lack of kicking it into the end zone or being able to kick it where you are suppose to also plays a huge part. The coverage guys know they need to get to a certain spot at a certain amount of time. When the timing and positioning is off then the coverage is off.

    It isn't worth arguing about, all I can really be confident in saying is that the Special Teams are playing poorly. It sound like it could be a personel problem from your comments as much as a coaching problem.

    Sorry snowapril have to disagree, he has had 3 years to get players in the right places and every year our coverages is the worst in the league! I am positive that every team in the NFL has had injury issues but they seem to be able to find guys that can play on special teams!

    Fire Tillman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    and I have been a Tice backer but this team is lacking stupid penalties at stupid times and the same mistakes week after week.

    It seems to come down to either coaching or personal, and I think we have added enough talent on this team to be playing better than we are.
    What we've got here is failure to communicate.

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    Xtap59 every one? Hmm, Did I miss a tackle at like the 10 or so in the 4th quarter? I WILL see that game again. My memory is not so sharp, I miss more sleep than I should. But WHO cares if he takes it at the 15 if he is dropped on the spot. Ummmm, you know the guy who returned TWO kicks for TD's last week? Yeah, look at that game again. If you don't have Tivo and can't. Get it. One, hey, that guy IS good. Two? DIDN"T HAPPEN. From what I have seen, and again, I am crazy, our special teams are doing pretty good. Its only in Madden that you can create your very own special kicker that is better than real life. Go find one now.....Its almost Dec. and we couldn't even find anyone but Andersen and Elling back before this all started. Here is my question, who you gonna replace Tillman with? Oh thats easy, just like the kicker get Vinetari, right? Fantasy. Yep. The Dante Hall of this year runs one back, nbd. You all do remember last year and what Hall did to us RIGHT?

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    FIRE TILLMAN!!!

    "UTVikfan" wrote:
    Xtap59 every one? Hmm, Did I miss a tackle at like the 10 or so in the 4th quarter? I WILL see that game again. My memory is not so sharp, I miss more sleep than I should. But WHO cares if he takes it at the 15 if he is dropped on the spot. Ummmm, you know the guy who returned TWO kicks for TD's last week? Yeah, look at that game again. If you don't have Tivo and can't. Get it. One, hey, that guy IS good. Two? DIDN"T HAPPEN. From what I have seen, and again, I am crazy, our special teams are doing pretty good. Its only in Madden that you can create your very own special kicker that is better than real life. Go find one now.....Its almost Dec. and we couldn't even find anyone but Andersen and Elling back before this all started. Here is my question, who you gonna replace Tillman with? Oh thats easy, just like the kicker get Vinetari, right? Fantasy. Yep. The Dante Hall of this year runs one back, nbd. You all do remember last year and what Hall did to us RIGHT?
    Yeah, Hall did nothing against us last year!

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    "UTVikfan" wrote:
    Xtap59 every one? Hmm, Did I miss a tackle at like the 10 or so in the 4th quarter? I WILL see that game again. My memory is not so sharp, I miss more sleep than I should. But WHO cares if he takes it at the 15 if he is dropped on the spot. Ummmm, you know the guy who returned TWO kicks for TD's last week? Yeah, look at that game again. If you don't have Tivo and can't. Get it. One, hey, that guy IS good. Two? DIDN"T HAPPEN. From what I have seen, and again, I am crazy, our special teams are doing pretty good. Its only in Madden that you can create your very own special kicker that is better than real life. Go find one now.....Its almost Dec. and we couldn't even find anyone but Andersen and Elling back before this all started. Here is my question, who you gonna replace Tillman with? Oh thats easy, just like the kicker get Vinetari, right? Fantasy. Yep. The Dante Hall of this year runs one back, nbd. You all do remember last year and what Hall did to us RIGHT?
    Let me try to decipher your reply.....
    First, everyone what?....Please explain....
    Second, No, I don't have TIVO but if I did it wouldn't matter. The fact is the Lion returner took it to the house on the opening play. He fielded a short, low kickoff and and took it to the house. That doesn't excuse the poor play from our special teams, but my point was/ is that if we had a kicker like Nugent, the Lions would be starting at their own 20 yard line instead of getting a quick 7 points on us.
    Third, your comment that our special teams are "Doing pretty good". I beg to differ. I think we are one of the worst, if not the worst special teams in the league. Our FG kicker does not have a range past 42 yards, our so-called kickoff specialist cannot get the ball deep hence leeting opposing teams start around their 35 yard line. Our coverage guys whiff and miss consistently. On almost every return for the Vikings, there is a penalty for blocking in the back or whatever other stupid penalty that draw. In essence, the Vikes special teams are not special.
    Fourth, cannot figure out the Madden comment you made. Are you talking play station 2?
    Fifth, you tell me to go find a kicker now. Why me? I'm only a fan. I trust the management to do so. They didn't do it for the past 4-5 years. My reply was to draft a kicker like Nugent in next years draft. Where did I say that we HAVE to replace one now?
    Sixth, who to replace tillman with? Mayor McCheese or Ronald McDonald could do a better job than Tillman.
    Seventh, please explain your statement on "Vinetari".
    Eight, What does Dante Hall have to do with the Vikes drafting a kicker in 2005? Is that what you're asking? If so, if we had a kicker that could put the ball in the endzone almost every time, than we wouldn't have to contend with Hall on kickoffs, only punts.

    I hope this clears things up for you. Next time, please copy quote the post you are replying so I may give you a better reply.

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