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    A Few Cliche's Gone To the Wayside - Perhaps

    I was sitting here at work, saying to myself, "Self......Appears that a few cliche's about the Chiller (and company) seemed to have dissipated this year with respect to what we the fans used to think about the Chiller.

    a.
    No body of significance wants to come play for the Vikings with him as head coach.
    2006
    Chester Taylor
    Tony Richardson
    Ryan Longwell
    Steve Hutchinson
    Ben Leber
    2007
    Bobby Wade
    Visanthe Shiancoe
    Chris Kluwe
    Anthony Herrera
    2008
    Bernard Berrian
    Jared Allen
    Madieu Williams
    2009
    LNAD???


    b.
    He doesn't draft WR's in the first round.


    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ck3/index.html

    c.
    He isn't a people person.
    http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.c...8142/index.htm

    d.
    He has hitched his wagon to TJ.
    http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/41867217.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4OW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUUss
    http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/06/15/b...kings-in-2009/

    e.
    He isn't flexible with respect to players and schemes.
    http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/05/30/v...at-for-harvin/

    f.
    This team can't win with him as HC.
    http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2008/12/28/v...ll-host-cowbo/

    Anyone got anymore that either have or possibly could go by the wayside this year?
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    Re: A Few Cliche's Gone To the Wayside - Perhaps

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    e.
    He isn't flexible with respect to players and schemes.
    http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/05/30/v...at-for-harvin/
    It only took him 3-years to adjust his KAO to his playrs... wow.

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    f.
    This team can't win with him as HC.
    http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2008/12/28/v...ll-host-cowbo/
    They can win despite him being our HC... not because of him.

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    I have no clue where his wagon is hitched actually, do you? Seems like we get a choice between Tjack, Rosefels and a 40-year old Favre. Really? Going into his 4th year as a HC, and this is his answer to our QB question?


    I've got some more for you though:

    How about, "He's only seen success with Adrian Peterson"

    Or... "He still can't make in-game decisions to save his life... until Peterson yells at him on the sideline."
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    Re: A Few Cliche's Gone To the Wayside - Perhaps

    "C" wrote:

    It only took him 3-years to adjust his KAO to his playrs... wow.
    Ahhhh, but it appears he has changed?
    Sometimes change is hard to do.


    They can win despite him being our HC... not because of him.
    That is one of those cliche's that just make me giggle.......Seriously, does anyone really believe that players just stand out there and draw stuff in the turf purposely defying the coaching staff?
    And those plays, drawn up in the turf actually work out to exploit matchups better than what was sent in by the coaches.......

    WOW.


    I have no clue where his wagon is hitched actually, do you? Seems like we get a choice between Tjack, Rosefels and a 40-year old Favre. Really? Going into his 4th year as a HC, and this is his answer to our QB question?
    I don't, but I readily admit that given the situation none of us would have had a better chance of actually upgrading our QB position based on the kids that have come out or Vets that have been available since he took over.

    Take a close look, this staff has upgraded almost every position on this team since old Bald one took over.
    Do you honestly think that availability/quantity hasn't had a huge play in thier lack of success?


    I've got some more for you though:
    Thats the spirit.....

    How about, "He's only seen success with Adrian Peterson"
    Good point.
    Bigger question is, "Would they have AD or possibly someone like Lienart if someone else wasn't the HC?"

    Or... "He still can't make in-game decisions to save his life... until Peterson yells at him on the sideline."
    I like that one.
    Quick question, what happened shortly after that?
    ;D

    I don't think AD had anything to do with his decision there and guess what, it is/was still the wrong decision.
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    Re: A Few Cliche's Gone To the Wayside - Perhaps

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "C" wrote:

    It only took him 3-years to adjust his KAO to his playrs... wow.
    Ahhhh, but it appears he has changed?
    Sometimes change is hard to do.


    They can win despite him being our HC... not because of him.
    That is one of those cliche's that just make me giggle.......Seriously, does anyone really believe that players just stand out there and draw stuff in the turf purposely defying the coaching staff?
    And those plays, drawn up in the turf actually work out to exploit matchups better than what was sent in by the coaches.......

    WOW.
    It's a slow learning curve for Childress, eh.... that's fine if you're cool with slow people. Seems like Sporano and Harbaugh didn't need 3 years though.

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    I have no clue where his wagon is hitched actually, do you? Seems like we get a choice between Tjack, Rosefels and a 40-year old Favre. Really? Going into his 4th year as a HC, and this is his answer to our QB question?
    I don't, but I readily admit that given the situation none of us would have had a better chance of actually upgrading our QB position based on the kids that have come out or Vets that have been available since he took over.

    Take a close look, this staff has upgraded almost every position on this team since old Bald one took over.
    Do you honestly think that availability/quantity hasn't had a huge play in thier lack of success?
    Improved/upgraded every position? So, Kelly Holcomb was an upgrade? Brooks Bolligner? JT O'Sullivan? Gus Frerotte? He's improved all positions but the most important one... yet he was brought in as an Offensive Guru and the OC that groomed Donovan McNabb. I think it's plain to see that McNabb's success was because of his own skill and had nothing to do with Childress.

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    I've got some more for you though:
    Thats the spirit.....

    How about, "He's only seen success with Adrian Peterson"
    Good point.
    Bigger question is, "Would they have AD or possibly someone like Lienart if someone else wasn't the HC?"
    Silly Marrdro, we all know Childress has NOTHING to do with the draft... that's all Spielman. You sound like the rest of those Yutz's...

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Or... "He still can't make in-game decisions to save his life... until Peterson yells at him on the sideline."
    I like that one.
    Quick question, what happened shortly after that?

    ;D

    I don't think AD had anything to do with his decision there and guess what, it is/was still the wrong decision.
    AD won the game for us, that's what happened next. Funny what happens when Chilly doesn't have Peterson on the sideline during the end of games (note Eagles playoff game). AD has the heart of a winner, Childress is fine settling for field goals.

    And until we win the SB, we've won nothing... regardless of having a winning season. Pretty sure Schotenhiemer was fired after going 14-2.

    Mark my words, the Vikings will never win a Super Bowl with Brad Childress as coach.
    Disclaimer: I'm an idiot.

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    Re: A Few Cliche's Gone To the Wayside - Perhaps

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    Improved/upgraded every position? So, Kelly Holcomb was an upgrade? Brooks Bolligner? JT O'Sullivan? Gus Frerotte? He's improved all positions but the most important one... yet he was brought in as an Offensive Guru and the OC that groomed Donovan McNabb. I think it's plain to see that McNabb's success was because of his own skill and had nothing to do with Childress.
    Were have you ever seen me say he was a offensive Guru or the Cat who groomed McNabb.
    If in fact you were to search the subjects on this you would find that I disagree with both statements.......

    As to the QB's, all busts, but again, it just cements home that it isn't who they brought in, but who was available for the to choose from.
    2009
    QB Matt Baker ERFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
    QB Brett Basanez Signed Carolina Panthers Chicago Bears
    QB Charlie Batch Re-signed Pittsburgh Steelers Pittsburgh Steelers
    QB John Beck Signed Miami Dolphins Baltimore Ravens
    QB Brock Berlin RFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
    QB Kyle Boller Signed Baltimore Ravens St. Louis Rams
    QB Brooks Bollinger UFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
    QB Todd Bouman Signed Baltimore Ravens Jacksonville Jaguars
    QB Nathan Brown UFA (Cut) Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
    QB David Carr Re-signed New York Giants New York Giants
    QB Kerry Collins Re-signed Tennessee Titans Tennessee Titans
    QB Adam DiMichele UFA (Cut) Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
    QB Ken Dorsey UFA (Cut) Cleveland Browns Free Agent
    QB Brett Favre UFA New York Jets Retired
    QB Ryan Fitzpatrick Signed Cincinnati Bengals Buffalo Bills
    QB Kirby Freeman UFA (Cut) San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
    QB Charlie Frye Signed Seattle Seahawks Oakland Raiders
    QB Jeff Garcia Signed Tampa Bay Buccaneers Oakland Raiders
    QB Sean Glennon UFA (Cut) Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
    QB Trent Green UFA (Cut) St. Louis Rams Free Agent
    QB Rex Grossman Signed Chicago Bears Houston Texans
    QB Joey Harrington Re-signed New Orleans Saints New Orleans Saints
    QB Damon Huard Signed Kansas City Chiefs San Francisco 49ers
    QB Brad Johnson UFA (Cut) Dallas Cowboys Free Agent
    QB Byron Leftwich Signed Pittsburgh Steelers Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    QB Cleo Lemon UFA (Cut) Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
    QB J.P. Losman UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
    QB Jamie Martin UFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
    QB Kevin McCabe UFA (Cut) Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
    QB Luke McCown Re-signed Tampa Bay Buccaneers Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    QB J.T. O'Sullivan Signed San Francisco 49ers Cincinnati Bengals
    QB Dan Orlovsky Signed Detroit Lions Houston Texans
    QB Patrick Ramsey Signed Denver Broncos Tennessee Titans
    QB Chris Simms Signed Tennessee Titans Denver Broncos
    QB Danny Southwick Signed Free Agent Oakland Raiders
    QB Brian St. Pierre Re-signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
    QB Marques Tuiasosopo UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
    QB Michael Vick UFA (Cut) Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
    QB Kurt Warner Re-signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
    QB Drew Willy UFA (Cut) Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
    QB Anthony Wright UFA New York Giants Free Agent
    2008
    QB Derek Anderson Re-signed Cleveland Browns Cleveland Browns
    QB Brett Basanez ERFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
    QB Dalton Bell UFA (Cut) Green Bay Packers Free Agent
    QB Dalton Bell Signed Free Agent Seattle Seahawks
    QB Brooks Bollinger UFA (Cut) Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
    QB Todd Bouman UFA (Cut) Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
    QB Shane Boyd UFA (Cut) Houston Texans Free Agent
    QB Casey Bramlet UFA (Cut) Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
    QB Alex Brink UFA (Cut) Houston Texans Free Agent
    QB Mark Brunell Signed Washington Redskins New Orleans Saints
    QB David Carr Signed Carolina Panthers New York Giants
    QB Todd Collins Re-signed Washington Redskins Washington Redskins
    QB Daunte Culpepper Signed Oakland Raiders Detroit Lions
    QB Trent Dilfer UFA (Cut) San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
    QB Cullen Finnerty UFA (Cut) Denver Broncos Free Agent
    QB Cullen Finnerty Signed Baltimore Ravens Denver Broncos
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    QB Ryan Fitzpatrick RFA Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
    QB Gus Frerotte Signed St. Louis Rams Minnesota Vikings
    QB Bruce Gradkowski Signed Free Agent St. Louis Rams
    QB Bruce Gradkowski UFA (Cut) Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
    QB Quinn Gray Signed Jacksonville Jaguars Houston Texans
    QB Quinn Gray UFA (Cut) Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
    QB Trent Green Signed Miami Dolphins St. Louis Rams
    QB Brian Griese Signed Chicago Bears Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    QB Rex Grossman Re-signed Chicago Bears Chicago Bears
    QB Matt Gutierrez UFA (Cut) New England Patriots Free Agent
    QB Darrell Hackney UFA (Cut) Denver Broncos Free Agent
    QB Tim Hasselbeck UFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
    QB Shaun Hill Re-signed San Francisco 49ers San Francisco 49ers
    QB Kelly Holcomb UFA (Cut) Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
    QB Sam Hollenbach UFA Washington Redskins Free Agent
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    QB Jared Lorenzen UFA (Cut) Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
    QB Ingle Martin Signed Tennessee Titans Kansas City Chiefs
    QB Jamie Martin Signed New Orleans Saints San Francisco 49ers
    QB Josh McCown Signed Miami Dolphins Carolina Panthers
    QB Bret Meyer Signed Free Agent Washington Redskins
    QB Erik Meyer Signed Seattle Seahawks Oakland Raiders
    QB Craig Nall UFA Green Bay Packers Free Agent
    QB J.T. O'Sullivan Signed Detroit Lions San Francisco 49ers
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    QB Dan Orlovsky Signed Free Agent Detroit Lions
    QB T.C. Ostrander UFA (Cut) New Orleans Saints Free Agent
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    QB Tyler Palko UFA (Cut) New Orleans Saints Free Agent
    QB Jordan Palmer Signed Washington Redskins Cincinnati Bengals
    QB Chad Pennington Signed New York Jets Miami Dolphins
    QB Jake Plummer UFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
    QB Tim Rattay UFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
    QB Chris Redman Re-signed Atlanta Falcons Atlanta Falcons
    QB Lester Ricard UFA (Cut) Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
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    QB Brad Roach UFA (Cut) Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
    QB Jeff Rowe UFA (Cut) Cincinnati Bengals Free Agent
    QB Chris Simms UFA (Cut) Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
    QB Brian St. Pierre Signed Pittsburgh Steelers Arizona Cardinals
    QB Vinny Testaverde Signed Carolina Panthers Retired
    QB Taylor Tharp UFA (Cut) Carolina Panthers Free Agent
    QB Paul Thompson Signed Free Agent Tennessee Titans
    QB Marques Tuiasosopo Signed New York Jets Oakland Raiders
    QB Billy Volek Re-signed San Diego Chargers San Diego Chargers
    QB Chris Weinke UFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
    QB Jared Zabransky UFA (Cut) Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
    QB Jared Zabransky Signed Houston Texans Pittsburgh Steelers
    2007
    QB Drew Bledsoe Signed Dallas Cowboys Retired
    QB Josh Booty SFA Free Agent Oakland Raiders
    QB Todd Bouman UFA (Cut) St. Louis Rams Free Agent
    QB Shane Boyd Signed Arizona Cardinals Houston Texans
    QB Casey Bramlet UFA (Cut) Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
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    QB Lang Campbell Signed Atlanta Falcons Arizona Cardinals
    QB David Carr Signed Houston Texans Carolina Panthers
    QB Kerry Collins Re-signed Tennessee Titans Tennessee Titans
    QB Tim Couch UFA (Cut) Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
    QB Daunte Culpepper Signed Miami Dolphins Oakland Raiders
    QB Koy Detmer Signed Free Agent Minnesota Vikings
    QB Ken Dorsey Re-signed Cleveland Browns Cleveland Browns
    QB Kevin Eakin UFA (Cut) Buffalo Bills Free Agent
    QB Brett Elliott UFA (Cut) San Diego Chargers Free Agent
    QB Cullen Finnerty Signed Free Agent Baltimore Ravens
    QB Jeff Garcia Signed Philadelphia Eagles Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    QB Quinn Gray Re-signed Jacksonville Jaguars Jacksonville Jaguars
    QB David Greene UFA (Cut) New England Patriots Free Agent
    QB Gibran Hamdan UFA (Cut) Miami Dolphins Free Agent
    QB Joey Harrington Signed Miami Dolphins Atlanta Falcons
    QB Tim Hasselbeck Signed New York Giants Arizona Cardinals
    QB Drew Henson Re-signed Minnesota Vikings Minnesota Vikings
    QB Damon Huard Re-signed Kansas City Chiefs Kansas City Chiefs
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    QB Erik Meyer UFA (Cut) Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
    QB Craig Nall UFA (Cut) Houston Texans Free Agent
    QB John Navarre UFA (Cut) Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
    QB J.T. O'Sullivan Signed Chicago Bears Detroit Lions
    QB Drew Olson UFA (Cut) Carolina Panthers Free Agent
    QB Jeff Otis Signed Arizona Cardinals Oakland Raiders
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    QB Bryan Randall UFA (Cut) Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
    QB Brett Ratliff UFA (Cut) New York Jets Free Agent
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    QB Kent Smith UFA (Cut) Tennessee Titans Free Agent
    QB Jim Sorgi Re-signed Indianapolis Colts Indianapolis Colts
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    QB Vinny Testaverde Signed New England Patriots Carolina Panthers
    QB Vinny Testaverde UFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
    QB Marques Tuiasosopo Signed Oakland Raiders New York Jets
    QB Chris Weinke Signed Carolina Panthers San Francisco 49ers
    QB Anthony Wright Signed Cincinnati Bengals New York Giants
    QB Jared Zabransky UFA (Cut) Houston Texans Free Agent
    2006
    QB Dustin Almond UFA (Cut) Cleveland Browns Free Agent
    QB Tom Arth UFA (Cut) Green Bay Packers Free Agent
    QB Charlie Batch Re-signed Pittsburgh Steelers Pittsburgh Steelers
    QB Jeff Blake UFA Chicago Bears Free Agent
    QB Todd Bouman UFA (Cut) New Orleans Saints Free Agent
    QB Todd Bouman Signed Free Agent Green Bay Packers
    QB Drew Brees Signed San Diego Chargers New Orleans Saints
    QB Aaron Brooks Signed New Orleans Saints Oakland Raiders
    QB Travis Brown UFA (Cut) Indianapolis Colts Free Agent
    QB David Carr Re-signed Houston Texans Houston Texans
    QB Quincy Carter Signed New York Jets CFL
    QB Kerry Collins Signed Oakland Raiders Tennessee Titans
    QB Todd Collins Signed Kansas City Chiefs Washington Redskins
    QB Eric Crouch Signed Kansas City Chiefs CFL
    QB Rohan Davey Signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
    QB Koy Detmer UFA (Cut) Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
    QB Ty Detmer UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
    QB Ken Dorsey Re-signed San Francisco 49ers San Francisco 49ers
    QB A.J. Feeley Signed San Diego Chargers Philadelphia Eagles
    QB Jay Fiedler UFA (Cut) Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
    QB Jason Fife Signed Minnesota Vikings New Orleans Saints
    QB Doug Flutie UFA New England Patriots Retired
    QB Gus Frerotte Signed Miami Dolphins St. Louis Rams
    QB Jeff Garcia Signed Detroit Lions Philadelphia Eagles
    QB Quinn Gray Re-signed Jacksonville Jaguars Jacksonville Jaguars
    QB Brian Griese Signed Tampa Bay Buccaneers Chicago Bears
    QB Andrew Hall UFA (Cut) Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
    QB Gibran Hamdan UFA Seattle Seahawks Free Agent
    QB Josh Harris UFA (Cut) New York Giants Free Agent
    QB Tim Hasselbeck Re-signed New York Giants New York Giants
    QB Drew Henson Signed Dallas Cowboys Minnesota Vikings
    QB Shaun Hill Signed Minnesota Vikings San Francisco 49ers
    QB Damon Huard Re-signed Kansas City Chiefs Kansas City Chiefs
    QB Doug Johnson Signed Cleveland Browns Cincinnati Bengals
    QB Rob Johnson Signed Free Agent New York Giants
    QB James Kilian UFA (Cut) Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
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    QB Mike McMahon UFA (Cut) Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
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    QB Jeff Otis Re-signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
    QB Jesse Palmer Signed San Francisco 49ers CFL
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    QB Mike Quinn Signed Free Agent CFL
    QB Dave Ragone Signed Houston Texans Cincinnati Bengals
    QB Bryan Randall Signed Free Agent Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    QB Bryan Randall UFA (Cut) Tampa Bay Buccaneers Free Agent
    QB Reggie Robertson Signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
    QB Sage Rosenfels Signed Miami Dolphins Houston Texans
    QB Rod Rutherford UFA (Cut) Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
    QB Chris Simms Re-signed Tampa Bay Buccaneers Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    QB Jeff Smoker UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
    QB Vinny Testaverde UFA New York Jets Free Agent
    QB Bradlee Van Pelt UFA (Cut) Denver Broncos Free Agent
    QB Seneca Wallace Re-signed Seattle Seahawks Seattle Seahawks
    QB Kurt Warner Re-signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
    QB Chris Weinke Re-signed Carolina Panthers Carolina Panthers
    QB Anthony Wright Signed Baltimore Ravens Cincinnati Bengals
    QB Brian Wrobel Signed Free Agent Green Bay Packers
    http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/featu.../fa.php?y=2006

    I know that cast of characters just had NFL coaches relaxing at night cause they new thier next SB caliber QB was waiting out there to be had for a song and a dance.
    ;D

    Silly Marrdro, we all know Childress has NOTHING to do with the draft... that's all Spielman. You sound like the rest of those Yutz's...
    Again a misquote of ole Marrdro.
    I have never said he has NOTHING to do with the draft.
    In fact if one were to search you would find that I have said that Spielman runs the draft on draft day as well as my comments on how much say he does have in things based on our lack of a true GM in leau of the Triadthingamajib.

    AD won the game for us, that's what happened next. Funny what happens when Chilly doesn't have Peterson on the sideline during the end of games (not Eagles playoff game). AD has the heart of a winner, Childress is fine settling for field goals.
    Nope, he didn't.
    In fact he nearly cost us that game on the next play.
    Good thing for us, the D got the ball back and then AD had a great series to win the game.

    And until we win the SB, we've won nothing... regardless of having a winning season. Pretty sure Schotenhiemer was fired after going 14-2.
    I agree with you on this one.....

    Mark my words, the Vikings will never win a Super Bowl with Brad Childress as coach.
    You might be correct on this one.
    Search my posts, you won't ever see me say anything of the sort after about week 5 of last year.

    My point is that the owner won't base a firing of a coach solely on his ability to fix one position on this team, especially when that position is arguably the hardest position to fix based on whats available out there at any given point.
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    Re: A Few Cliche's Gone To the Wayside - Perhaps

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "C" wrote:
    Improved/upgraded every position? So, Kelly Holcomb was an upgrade? Brooks Bolligner? JT O'Sullivan? Gus Frerotte? He's improved all positions but the most important one... yet he was brought in as an Offensive Guru and the OC that groomed Donovan McNabb. I think it's plain to see that McNabb's success was because of his own skill and had nothing to do with Childress.
    Were have you ever seen me say he was a offensive Guru or the Cat who groomed McNabb.
    If in fact you were to search the subjects on this you would find that I disagree with both statements.......

    As to the QB's, all busts, but again, it just cements home that it isn't who they brought in, but who was available for the to choose from.
    2009
    QB Matt Baker ERFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
    QB Brett Basanez Signed Carolina Panthers Chicago Bears
    QB Charlie Batch Re-signed Pittsburgh Steelers Pittsburgh Steelers
    QB John Beck Signed Miami Dolphins Baltimore Ravens
    QB Brock Berlin RFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
    QB Kyle Boller Signed Baltimore Ravens St. Louis Rams
    QB Brooks Bollinger UFA Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
    QB Todd Bouman Signed Baltimore Ravens Jacksonville Jaguars
    QB Nathan Brown UFA (Cut) Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
    QB David Carr Re-signed New York Giants New York Giants
    QB Kerry Collins Re-signed Tennessee Titans Tennessee Titans
    QB Adam DiMichele UFA (Cut) Philadelphia Eagles Free Agent
    QB Ken Dorsey UFA (Cut) Cleveland Browns Free Agent
    QB Brett Favre UFA New York Jets Retired
    QB Ryan Fitzpatrick Signed Cincinnati Bengals Buffalo Bills
    QB Kirby Freeman UFA (Cut) San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
    QB Charlie Frye Signed Seattle Seahawks Oakland Raiders
    QB Jeff Garcia Signed Tampa Bay Buccaneers Oakland Raiders
    QB Sean Glennon UFA (Cut) Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
    QB Trent Green UFA (Cut) St. Louis Rams Free Agent
    QB Rex Grossman Signed Chicago Bears Houston Texans
    QB Joey Harrington Re-signed New Orleans Saints New Orleans Saints
    QB Damon Huard Signed Kansas City Chiefs San Francisco 49ers
    QB Brad Johnson UFA (Cut) Dallas Cowboys Free Agent
    QB Byron Leftwich Signed Pittsburgh Steelers Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    QB Cleo Lemon UFA (Cut) Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
    QB J.P. Losman UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent
    QB Jamie Martin UFA San Francisco 49ers Free Agent
    QB Kevin McCabe UFA (Cut) Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
    QB Luke McCown Re-signed Tampa Bay Buccaneers Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    QB J.T. O'Sullivan Signed San Francisco 49ers Cincinnati Bengals
    QB Dan Orlovsky Signed Detroit Lions Houston Texans
    QB Patrick Ramsey Signed Denver Broncos Tennessee Titans
    QB Chris Simms Signed Tennessee Titans Denver Broncos
    QB Danny Southwick Signed Free Agent Oakland Raiders
    QB Brian St. Pierre Re-signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
    QB Marques Tuiasosopo UFA Oakland Raiders Free Agent
    QB Michael Vick UFA (Cut) Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
    QB Kurt Warner Re-signed Arizona Cardinals Arizona Cardinals
    QB Drew Willy UFA (Cut) Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
    QB Anthony Wright UFA New York Giants Free Agent
    2008
    QB Derek Anderson Re-signed Cleveland Browns Cleveland Browns
    QB Brett Basanez ERFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
    QB Dalton Bell UFA (Cut) Green Bay Packers Free Agent
    QB Dalton Bell Signed Free Agent Seattle Seahawks
    QB Brooks Bollinger UFA (Cut) Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
    QB Todd Bouman UFA (Cut) Jacksonville Jaguars Free Agent
    QB Shane Boyd UFA (Cut) Houston Texans Free Agent
    QB Casey Bramlet UFA (Cut) Baltimore Ravens Free Agent
    QB Alex Brink UFA (Cut) Houston Texans Free Agent
    QB Mark Brunell Signed Washington Redskins New Orleans Saints
    QB David Carr Signed Carolina Panthers New York Giants
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    I know that cast of characters just had NFL coaches relaxing at night cause they new thier next SB caliber QB was waiting out there to be had for a song and a dance.

    ;D

    Silly Marrdro, we all know Childress has NOTHING to do with the draft... that's all Spielman. You sound like the rest of those Yutz's...
    Again a misquote of ole Marrdro.
    I have never said he has NOTHING to do with the draft.
    In fact if one were to search you would find that I have said that Spielman runs the draft on draft day as well as my comments on how much say he does have in things based on our lack of a true GM in leau of the Triadthingamajib.

    AD won the game for us, that's what happened next. Funny what happens when Chilly doesn't have Peterson on the sideline during the end of games (not Eagles playoff game). AD has the heart of a winner, Childress is fine settling for field goals.
    Nope, he didn't.
    In fact he nearly cost us that game on the next play.
    Good thing for us, the D got the ball back and then AD had a great series to win the game.

    And until we win the SB, we've won nothing... regardless of having a winning season. Pretty sure Schotenhiemer was fired after going 14-2.
    I agree with you on this one.....

    Mark my words, the Vikings will never win a Super Bowl with Brad Childress as coach.
    You might be correct on this one.
    Search my posts, you won't ever see me say anything of the sort after about week 5 of last year.

    My point is that the owner won't base a firing of a coach solely on his ability to fix one position on this team, especially when that position is arguably the hardest position to fix based on whats available out there at any given point.
    Is that Jeff Garcia and Drew Brees on that list?
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    It's a slow learning curve for Childress, eh.... that's fine if you're cool with slow people. Seems like Sporano and Harbaugh didn't need 3 years though.
    Fixed it I see.
    Had me confused there for a bit.......

    Hey, I'm just as off the Chiller as you are after what I saw last year.
    This year, based on some comments, make me wonder how ready this team will be come week one.

    Mix his "new approach" to getting this team ready along with the upcoming suspension of the "Wall" and I see it getting ugly quick.

    That will get him fired my friend and that will have nothing to do with his inability to find a gem in a mine full of shit that we call the QB FA market.
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    AD won the game for us, that's what happened next. Funny what happens when Chilly doesn't have Peterson on the sideline during the end of games (not Eagles playoff game). AD has the heart of a winner, Childress is fine settling for field goals.
    Nope, he didn't.
    In fact he nearly cost us that game on the next play.
    Good thing for us, the D got the ball back and then AD had a great series to win the game.
    Perhaps, but I remember AD squeaking past the pileon on the last TD of the game... I also remember seeing him getting our team fired up on the sidelines... but I guess we just disagree on what "Winning a game" means.

    Then again, you think Childress is a good HC. I do not. Se la vi.
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    "Marrdro" wrote:
    AD won the game for us, that's what happened next. Funny what happens when Chilly doesn't have Peterson on the sideline during the end of games (not Eagles playoff game). AD has the heart of a winner, Childress is fine settling for field goals.
    Nope, he didn't.
    In fact he nearly cost us that game on the next play.
    Good thing for us, the D got the ball back and then AD had a great series to win the game.
    Perhaps, but I remember AD squeaking past the pileon on the last TD of the game... I also remember seeing him getting our team fired up on the sidelines... but I guess we just disagree on what "Winning a game" means.

    Then again, you think Childress is a good HC. I do not. Se la vi.
    You keep missing my point......I don't think he is a good coach.
    In fact I think that he is getting worse, not better.

    Just because I started a thread about some of the cliche's out there doesn't change that fact.
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    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "C" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    AD won the game for us, that's what happened next. Funny what happens when Chilly doesn't have Peterson on the sideline during the end of games (not Eagles playoff game). AD has the heart of a winner, Childress is fine settling for field goals.
    Nope, he didn't.
    In fact he nearly cost us that game on the next play.
    Good thing for us, the D got the ball back and then AD had a great series to win the game.
    Perhaps, but I remember AD squeaking past the pileon on the last TD of the game... I also remember seeing him getting our team fired up on the sidelines... but I guess we just disagree on what "Winning a game" means.

    Then again, you think Childress is a good HC. I do not. Se la vi.
    You keep missing my point......I don't think he is a good coach.
    In fact I think that he is getting worse, not better.

    Just because I started a thread about some of the cliche's out there doesn't change that fact.
    So... you think Chilly's getting worse, yet you start a thread talking about how these "Cliches" about his coaching career have been proven wrong (along with cited sources)?

    Interesting.
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