Thread: Everson Griffen

I just don't see Robison making the transition if Griffen couldn't. Marrdo is right- we need a true NT to make this thing work, IMHO.

Originally Posted by Jarlvik

I just don't see Robison making the transition if Griffen couldn't. Marrdo is right- we need a true NT to make this thing work, IMHO.

Another new poster moving up the spreadsheets.....

I think the real reason its over is that they have alot of talent at LB (see the article below) they didn't think they had. Mix that in with Jasper actually being healthy there is no real need to have him work the transition.

Marvin Mitchell Giving Erin Henderson a Run for His Money? - The Viking Age - A Minnesota Vikings Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.

Originally Posted by Marrdro

Another new poster moving up the spreadsheets.....

I think the real reason its over is that they have alot of talent at LB (see the article below) they didn't think they had. Mix that in with Jasper actually being healthy there is no real need to have him work the transition.

Marvin Mitchell Giving Erin Henderson a Run for His Money? - The Viking Age - A Minnesota Vikings Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.

Are you serious?
Truth is the linebackers suck. Greenway is ok but Henderson and Brinkley look terrible. Mitchell looks as good as Henderson and better than Brinkley. It doesn't mean they have a lot of talent at linebacker. They have dearth of talent at linebacker. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if they bring back EJ by the third pre-season game.
Griffen was moved back to end because it is almost a purely physical position. That is the kindest way to state it. He will do well there.

Originally Posted by Marrdro

Originally Posted by Jarlvik

I just don't see Robison making the transition if Griffen couldn't. Marrdo is right- we need a true NT to make this thing work, IMHO.

Another new poster moving up the spreadsheets.....

I think the real reason its over is that they have alot of talent at LB (see the article below) they didn't think they had. Mix that in with Jasper actually being healthy there is no real need to have him work the transition.

Marvin Mitchell Giving Erin Henderson a Run for His Money? - The Viking Age - A Minnesota Vikings Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.

He moves up the spreadsheet for that? Saying because Griffen can't cut it, Robison won't?

That logic is incredibly myopic and flat-out wrong. We should AT LEAST TRY him out at LB, his build is much more suited for that position anyways.

But to say, "Griffen couldn't do it, so Robison can't either" is not smart logic.

Originally Posted by C Mac D

He moves up the spreadsheet for that? Saying because Griffen can't cut it, Robison won't?

That logic is incredibly myopic and flat-out wrong. We should AT LEAST TRY him out at LB, his build is much more suited for that position anyways.

But to say, "Griffen couldn't do it, so Robison can't either" is not smart logic.

The move up the spreadsheet was for the NT comment.......

Originally Posted by smegmavike

Are you serious?
Truth is the linebackers suck. Greenway is ok but Henderson and Brinkley look terrible. Mitchell looks as good as Henderson and better than Brinkley. It doesn't mean they have a lot of talent at linebacker. They have dearth of talent at linebacker. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if they bring back EJ by the third pre-season game.
Griffen was moved back to end because it is almost a purely physical position. That is the kindest way to state it. He will do well there.

Give Brink some time.

Not sure I disagree with you on Hendirson, but it isn't he that I'm talking about. Did you check out the link on Mitchell?

Again, I still haven't seen the game but from all accounts the backup LB's looked OK.

Originally Posted by Marrdro

Give Brink some time.

Not sure I disagree with you on Hendirson, but it isn't he that I'm talking about. Did you check out the link on Mitchell?

Again, I still haven't seen the game but from all accounts the backup LB's looked OK.

Our linebackers looked pretty bad. This is a concern because Jasper is still very inexperienced for a guy that has been in the league as long as he has.

Erin Henderson, who I am not a fan of, was responsible for the first big run by the 49ers. He bit and went inside when the play was a outside run. The left tackle did a very good job at sealing the edge (D'Andre Reed was at RDE), Sanford came up and laid out the lead blocker, but with Erin taking himself out of the play it lead to a big gain.

Mitchell wasn't bad but arguing over which is better between him and Erin is like two drunks fighting over the fat chick at the bar. You are losing either way.

I didn't see anything good about Tyrone McKenzie. He whiffed on a couple of tackles and looked stiff in coverage.

I honestly thought Cole and Eliminian looked better than the supposed backups.

Originally Posted by Freakout

Our linebackers looked pretty bad. This is a concern because Jasper is still very inexperienced for a guy that has been in the league as long as he has.

Erin Henderson, who I am not a fan of, was responsible for the first big run by the 49ers. He bit and went inside when the play was a outside run. The left tackle did a very good job at sealing the edge (D'Andre Reed was at RDE), Sanford came up and laid out the lead blocker, but with Erin taking himself out of the play it lead to a big gain.

Mitchell wasn't bad but arguing over which is better between him and Erin is like two drunks fighting over the fat chick at the bar. You are losing either way.

I didn't see anything good about Tyrone McKenzie. He whiffed on a couple of tackles and looked stiff in coverage.

I honestly thought Cole and Eliminian looked better than the supposed backups.

Thanks for the run down. Quick question, when you say that the LB bit on the first run play, what the heck did the DT/DE's do?

Originally Posted by Marrdro

Thanks for the run down. Quick question, when you say that the LB bit on the first run play, what the heck did the DT/DE's do?

That was actually the play Guion got injured on. He ran the running back down from behind and made the tackle. Just by then it was a easy 15 yard gain.

Yeah Griffen is playing lights out this year. He already has 5 sacks to Allens 1.5.. I think its time to start Griffen over allen, and trade allen for a 2nd rounder and a decent S/WR/OG. Griffen has shown that he is ready to start, if he played for any other team he'd be starting right now. I think he is even more dangerous in a 3-4 defense as a DeMarcus Ware type player.. That one 4-10 when the vikes went 3-4 and Griffen came screaming pass the LT who couldn't even blink at him. I say Allen is gone next year..