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    Re: ESPN ranks Vikings d-line as the best in the NFL.

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    I think you can line up the pats line and go player for player.
    Our Best Lineman is Kwilliams. I would take Seymour for Williams. Both are excellent, However, Seymour is more versitile( and injury prone)

    Next I would take Wilfolk over Pat. Both are great but Wilfolk is a force in the box( Pats more mobile)

    Allen Vs. Warren is clearly allen.

    Again we must judge as a unit. As a unit from top to bottom the chargers and Pats 3 link chain is stronger than our 4 link chain.
    I think you have to include the outside linebackers when comparing a 3-4 to a 4-3, so I can easily see the Chargers as having as good a D-line as us.
    Of course, how the paper translates to production for all of these teams remains to be seen.

    But I disagree with you analysis of the Pats down linemen against ours.


    I might have agreed with you on Seymour over Kevin Williams three years ago, but injuries and a general decline in play have changed that.
    As for versatility, Kevin Williams started for us playing defensive end.
    I think they're similar players.

    I think you're way off on the Wilfork over Pat Williams choice.
    Pat Williams is dominating.
    I don't know how else to say it.
    Wilfork is very good, but he's not Pat Williams.
    At least he is no better than Pat Williams.

    Don't get me wrong - the Pats have a very good line.
    But the talent we have at the DT position is pretty special in my opinion.
    Agreed... fuck the Pats and fuck the Chargers.
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    Re: ESPN ranks Vikings d-line as the best in the NFL.

    "kevoncox" wrote:
    I'm a happy Vikes fan but i think if you are talking Dlines, I would have to go with the Pats or Chargers as # 1. Perharps we got more points because we are feilding a 4-3 versus a 3-4.

    Either way I have us as the top 4-3 Dline and the Third best line overall..
    And maybe they get more points for fielding 4 LBs in the LB rankings.
    Front seven vs. front seven, I would still take the Vikings D as #1 overall.
    Nuff said.
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    Re: ESPN ranks Vikings d-line as the best in the NFL.

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    "kevoncox" wrote:
    I'm a happy Vikes fan but i think if you are talking Dlines, I would have to go with the Pats or Chargers as # 1. Perharps we got more points because we are feilding a 4-3 versus a 3-4.

    Either way I have us as the top 4-3 Dline and the Third best line overall..
    And maybe they get more points for fielding 4 LBs in the LB rankings.
    Front seven vs. front seven, I would still take the Vikings D as #1 overall.
    Nuff said.
    i'm with you, granted those others are very, very good units, i'm really pumped about our front 7 - or even our D as a whole


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    Re: ESPN ranks Vikings d-line as the best in the NFL.

    "Overlord" wrote:
    "kevoncox" wrote:
    I think you can line up the pats line and go player for player.
    Our Best Lineman is Kwilliams. I would take Seymour for Williams. Both are excellent, However, Seymour is more versitile( and injury prone)

    Next I would take Wilfolk over Pat. Both are great but Wilfolk is a force in the box( Pats more mobile)

    Allen Vs. Warren is clearly allen.

    Again we must judge as a unit. As a unit from top to bottom the chargers and Pats 3 link chain is stronger than our 4 link chain.
    I think you have to include the outside linebackers when comparing a 3-4 to a 4-3, so I can easily see the Chargers as having as good a D-line as us.
    Of course, how the paper translates to production for all of these teams remains to be seen.

    But I disagree with you analysis of the Pats down linemen against ours.


    I might have agreed with you on Seymour over Kevin Williams three years ago, but injuries and a general decline in play have changed that.
    As for versatility, Kevin Williams started for us playing defensive end.
    I think they're similar players.

    I think you're way off on the Wilfork over Pat Williams choice.
    Pat Williams is dominating.
    I don't know how else to say it.
    Wilfork is very good, but he's not Pat Williams.
    At least he is no better than Pat Williams.

    Don't get me wrong - the Pats have a very good line.
    But the talent we have at the DT position is pretty special in my opinion.
    I would put Wilfolk over Pat because of Wilfolks of the ball speed. The only DTs I can think of that come off the ball like he does is Tommie Harris. Except Wilfolk is bigger, stronger and plays with a nastier streak. I love Pat and the way he moves for
    aman his side but Wilfolk is on another level.
    BTW i hate the F*ckign Pats!!!
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    Re: ESPN ranks Vikings d-line as the best in the NFL.

    I am not surprised I mean we have 3 Pro Bowlers on the D-line. Who knows? Maybe they will become the modern day Purple People Eaters. That would be something.



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    Re: ESPN ranks Vikings d-line as the best in the NFL.

    "kevoncox" wrote:
    I would put Wilfolk over Pat because of Wilfolks of the ball speed. The only DTs I can think of that come off the ball like he does is Tommie Harris. Except Wilfolk is bigger, stronger and plays with a nastier streak. I love Pat and the way he moves for
    aman his side but Wilfolk is on another level.
    BTW i hate the F*ckign Pats!!!
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    Wilfork is a dirty player.
    The only reason I'd take him over Pat is because he's quite a bit younger, but I'd Pat is better at getting to the ball than Wilfork is.

    Tommie Harris is more like Kevin Williams, only he's always hurt.
    They're more well rounded, athletic DTs who can be disruptive against the pass too.


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