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    Dwight Smith Debate Thread

    I've seen many people for and against him being on the team. He has 1 more year on his contract, and other then Sharper, the only other safety signed through next season. Doss is gone, Tank is gone unless we resign one of them, but both did nothing for us while they were here.
    Pros:
    Vet Leadership
    2006: 15 games
    63tackles
    4int 1 forced fumble 1 sack
    2007: 14 games
    44 tackles 4int 1 retured for a TD 1 Forced Fumble
    I know they aren't great numbers, but for someone that seems to take a game off here and there with his play, are pretty solid numbers
    Cons:
    BJ in stairwell, not that any of us would be against getting one from a cute stranger
    "Investigation still ongoing for smoking a little pot"
    "Character Issues"
    Seems to play when he wants to.
    How do the rest of you guys feel about him, should he stay, or should we move in a different direction?
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    Re: Dwight Smith Debate Thread

    How can you say "Vet Leadership" when all of the cons you listed contradict this?

    Guy is nothing but a off the field cancer and an average Safety.
    There are plenty of other average safeties that we can get.
    We had the worst pass D in the league and he was a big part of that.

    Stats are stats, that's all.

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    Re: Dwight Smith Debate Thread

    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    How can you say "Vet Leadership" when all of the cons you listed contradict this?

    Guy is nothing but a off the field cancer and an average Safety.
    There are plenty of other average safeties that we can get.
    We had the worst pass D in the league and he was a big part of that.

    Stats are stats, that's all.
    Fair enough, but Childress must see something in him that we don't since he's kept him these last two years, under his so called "Culture of accountability" era. I wouldn't have a problem moving in a different direction, but who on this list would you want over him?
    William Bartee UFA Kansas City Chiefs
    Jay Bellamy UFA New Orleans Saints
    Omar Stoutmire UFA Washington Redskins
    Derrick Strait UFA Carolina Panthers
    Gibril Wilson UFA New York Giants

    Sorry, but that looks like a sad list of FA safties
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    Re: Dwight Smith Debate Thread

    I think we remove him and promote from within.
    We have a couple guys who age might dictate a change to safety at some point.

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    Re: Dwight Smith Debate Thread

    I never want to have to rely on a guy (no matter how talented) if he has issues that seem to cause he to be unreliable.

    Like it or not the NFL and associated teams have rules that players must conform to.
    Players that refuse to conform to those rules will at times
    have to be disciplined which in some cases will make him not available to the team.

    Again, talent aside, if he isn't gonna be a team guy than I don't want him on the team.
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    Re: Dwight Smith Debate Thread

    "MindFreak" wrote:
    "ultravikingfan" wrote:
    How can you say "Vet Leadership" when all of the cons you listed contradict this?

    Guy is nothing but a off the field cancer and an average Safety.
    There are plenty of other average safeties that we can get.
    We had the worst pass D in the league and he was a big part of that.

    Stats are stats, that's all.
    Fair enough, but Childress must see something in him that we don't since he's kept him these last two years, under his so called "Culture of accountability" era. I wouldn't have a problem moving in a different direction, but who on this list would you want over him?
    William Bartee UFA Kansas City Chiefs
    Jay Bellamy UFA New Orleans Saints
    Omar Stoutmire UFA Washington Redskins
    Derrick Strait UFA Carolina Panthers
    Gibril Wilson UFA New York Giants

    Sorry, but that looks like a sad list of FA safties
    It was not recently he got caught with dope.
    My guess is that he is a goner now.
    We do not need idiots on this team.

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    Re: Dwight Smith Debate Thread

    He can go... I don't think Chilly will keep him around and his play wasn't exactly spectacular enough to warrant dealing with the off-the-field issues.


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    Re: Dwight Smith Debate Thread

    "MindFreak" wrote:
    I've seen many people for and against him being on the team. He has 1 more year on his contract, and other then Sharper, the only other safety signed through next season. Doss is gone, Tank is gone unless we resign one of them, but both did nothing for us while they were here.
    Pros:
    Vet Leadership
    2006: 15 games
    63tackles
    4int 1 forced fumble 1 sack
    2007: 14 games
    44 tackles 4int 1 retured for a TD 1 Forced Fumble
    I know they aren't great numbers, but for someone that seems to take a game off here and there with his play, are pretty solid numbers
    Cons:
    BJ in stairwell, not that any of us would be against getting one from a cute stranger
    "Investigation still ongoing for smoking a little pot"
    "Character Issues"
    Seems to play when he wants to.
    How do the rest of you guys feel about him, should he stay, or should we move in a different direction?
    To be honest, none of the off-field stuff bothers me in the slightest.
    It is his propensity to arm-tackle rather than delivering the big hit that pisses me off.

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    Re: Dwight Smith Debate Thread

    "Zeus" wrote:
    "MindFreak" wrote:
    I've seen many people for and against him being on the team. He has 1 more year on his contract, and other then Sharper, the only other safety signed through next season. Doss is gone, Tank is gone unless we resign one of them, but both did nothing for us while they were here.
    Pros:
    Vet Leadership
    2006: 15 games
    63tackles
    4int 1 forced fumble 1 sack
    2007: 14 games
    44 tackles 4int 1 retured for a TD 1 Forced Fumble
    I know they aren't great numbers, but for someone that seems to take a game off here and there with his play, are pretty solid numbers
    Cons:
    BJ in stairwell, not that any of us would be against getting one from a cute stranger
    "Investigation still ongoing for smoking a little pot"
    "Character Issues"
    Seems to play when he wants to.
    How do the rest of you guys feel about him, should he stay, or should we move in a different direction?
    To be honest, none of the off-field stuff bothers me in the slightest.
    It is his propensity to arm-tackle rather than delivering the big hit that pisses me off.

    =Z=
    Agreed. Who cares, really? He hasn't done anything I haven't done before, so who am I to judge?
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    Re: Dwight Smith Debate Thread

    "Braddock" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
    "MindFreak" wrote:
    I've seen many people for and against him being on the team. He has 1 more year on his contract, and other then Sharper, the only other safety signed through next season. Doss is gone, Tank is gone unless we resign one of them, but both did nothing for us while they were here.
    Pros:
    Vet Leadership
    2006: 15 games
    63tackles
    4int 1 forced fumble 1 sack
    2007: 14 games
    44 tackles 4int 1 retured for a TD 1 Forced Fumble
    I know they aren't great numbers, but for someone that seems to take a game off here and there with his play, are pretty solid numbers
    Cons:
    BJ in stairwell, not that any of us would be against getting one from a cute stranger
    "Investigation still ongoing for smoking a little pot"
    "Character Issues"
    Seems to play when he wants to.
    How do the rest of you guys feel about him, should he stay, or should we move in a different direction?
    To be honest, none of the off-field stuff bothers me in the slightest.
    It is his propensity to arm-tackle rather than delivering the big hit that pisses me off.

    =Z=
    Agreed. Who cares, really? He hasn't done anything I haven't done before, so who am I to judge?
    You got a BJ in a stairwell?
    Zeus wrote:
    When are you going to realize that picking out the 20 bad throws this year and ignoring the 300 good ones does not make your point?

    =Z=

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