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    Re: Dumbbells can't handle Birk's work

    This sentence caught my attention:
    "Tice sent me here to get stronger, and then he becomes head coach, and he tells me I have to work out with the team," Birk said, chuckling.
    What a double standard!
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    Re: Dumbbells can't handle Birk's work

    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    ok then, must have escaped my memory..
    I think Birk will be fine, as will the rest of our line.
    Think about it.
    During the voluntary mini-camps, its mostly individual drills right?
    With the odd scrimmage.
    The purpose of individual drills is to work on Individual skills, like blocking, catching, throwing.
    They then run a bunch of Pass Skeleton, and Matchups (LBvsRB, CBvsWR, etc).
    I am confident that the rest of the line can learn without the presence of Birk.
    He must really be something if his not being there drastically affects how our season will turn out.
    I haven't seen anything, but has Chilly said anything along the lines of how he wishes Birk was there?
    Or his presense is greatly missed?
    I haven't heard anything about it, so if it doesn't bother the Coaches, It doesn't bother me.
    That is about right. Actually, IMO the young guys are better off with Birk gone because then they had to step up and take the reps instead of standing there and watching Birk do the work. Plus the coaches then had a chance to see the young guys get more reps and would then be able to better assess their skill level.
    phew.. .I'm not the only one who thinks so....
    Maybe if enough of use band together we can overpower Marr about this and the Favre is a good fit thread....

    Now what fun would that be? Marr is good stuff to debate with.

    I like playing the devil's advocate with him.

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    Re: Dumbbells can't handle Birk's work

    You mean Tice actually made rules??!

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    Re: Dumbbells can't handle Birk's work

    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    ok then, must have escaped my memory..
    I think Birk will be fine, as will the rest of our line.
    Think about it.
    During the voluntary mini-camps, its mostly individual drills right?
    With the odd scrimmage.
    The purpose of individual drills is to work on Individual skills, like blocking, catching, throwing.
    They then run a bunch of Pass Skeleton, and Matchups (LBvsRB, CBvsWR, etc).
    I am confident that the rest of the line can learn without the presence of Birk.
    He must really be something if his not being there drastically affects how our season will turn out.
    I haven't seen anything, but has Chilly said anything along the lines of how he wishes Birk was there?
    Or his presense is greatly missed?

    I haven't heard anything about it, so if it doesn't bother the Coaches, It doesn't bother me.
    That is about right. Actually, IMO the young guys are better off with Birk gone because then they had to step up and take the reps instead of standing there and watching Birk do the work. Plus the coaches then had a chance to see the young guys get more reps and would then be able to better assess their skill level.
    phew.. .I'm not the only one who thinks so....
    Maybe if enough of use band together we can overpower Marr about this and the Favre is a good fit thread....

    Now what fun would that be? Marr is good stuff to debate with.

    I like playing the devil's advocate with him.
    lol, thats true.
    Wouldn't be as fun without debating with someone who regardless of the situation, always seems to have a different opinion than me

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    Re: Dumbbells can't handle Birk's work

    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    "UffDaVikes" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    ok then, must have escaped my memory..
    I think Birk will be fine, as will the rest of our line.
    Think about it.
    During the voluntary mini-camps, its mostly individual drills right?
    With the odd scrimmage.
    The purpose of individual drills is to work on Individual skills, like blocking, catching, throwing.
    They then run a bunch of Pass Skeleton, and Matchups (LBvsRB, CBvsWR, etc).
    I am confident that the rest of the line can learn without the presence of Birk.
    He must really be something if his not being there drastically affects how our season will turn out.
    I haven't seen anything, but has Chilly said anything along the lines of how he wishes Birk was there?
    Or his presense is greatly missed?

    I haven't heard anything about it, so if it doesn't bother the Coaches, It doesn't bother me.
    That is about right. Actually, IMO the young guys are better off with Birk gone because then they had to step up and take the reps instead of standing there and watching Birk do the work. Plus the coaches then had a chance to see the young guys get more reps and would then be able to better assess their skill level.
    phew.. .I'm not the only one who thinks so....
    Maybe if enough of use band together we can overpower Marr about this and the Favre is a good fit thread....

    Now what fun would that be? Marr is good stuff to debate with.

    I like playing the devil's advocate with him.
    Pot stirrerreeerrrrerer.
    ;D

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    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    the way Winfield wasn't there last year?
    I haven't heard you getting on his case about it, which makes me think that there's something more to it.
    LMAO! You know there's more to it. CCtheMarrdro is a hater!
    ;D ;D ;D

    Well not really. But he's still pissed about those linebackers coming thru untouched in the Chicago game.

    I have no problem with Birk skipping OTA's. If he was skipping training camp I would be concerned.
    Those who think he is washed up must realize he is still going to get pushed around sometimes by more physical and bigger defensive tackles. But he will hold his own most of the time. And he is still one of the best pulling and downfield blocking centers in the game.
    I expect him to continue with the Vikings beyond this year.
    Best center in the league. No. But still pretty good and likely much better as an integral part of this unit than a rookie would be.
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    Re: Dumbbells can't handle Birk's work

    The bar can only hold Kevin Durant's workouts



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    Re: Dumbbells can't handle Birk's work

    "jargomcfargo" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    the way Winfield wasn't there last year?
    I haven't heard you getting on his case about it, which makes me think that there's something more to it.
    LMAO! You know there's more to it. CCtheMarrdro is a hater!
    ;D ;D ;D

    Well not really. But he's still pissed about those linebackers coming thru untouched in the Chicago game.

    I have no problem with Birk skipping OTA's. If he was skipping training camp I would be concerned.
    Those who think he is washed up must realize he is still going to get pushed around sometimes by more physical and bigger defensive tackles. But he will hold his own most of the time. And he is still one of the best pulling and downfield blocking centers in the game.
    I expect him to continue with the Vikings beyond this year.
    Best center in the league. No. But still pretty good and likely much better as an integral part of this unit than a rookie would be.
    Now your just cracking me up my friend.

    By the way, I like CCtheBests stuff.
    Don't always agree with him but he does make me re-think a stance every now and then.
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    Re: Dumbbells can't handle Birk's work

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    Nice read.
    Great to see that Birk is taking his training seriously, and not slacking like some certain other members here seem to think he is.
    If he truly is in the best shape he's ever been in, I look forward to see him dominate defensive tackles and Linebackers all day long.
    Some people think that some people are worried about what shape he is in when really some people are more worried that he wasn't there helping the youngsters the way all to the other vets were.

    :P
    :P
    :P

    Seriously, my beef with Matt has, and will always be, that he wasn't in camp providing the example that the young guys needed this year as well as working with TJ and the other guys when it comes to last years issues related to pre-snap read/adjustments, blocking schemes etc via film study.
    I could swear Birk was in mandatory mini-camp and will be in training camp.
    I assume you are talking about the VOLUNTARY OTAs.
    I don't think this is a problem.
    If my boss wanted me to come in on a weekend for no pay to help train a person to replace me.
    I think I would have a problem too.

    Vikes FO should get their heads out of their a$$ and sign him for a few more years. The only way I would accept them not signing Matt is if they take the cash they save on him and use it to sign a top right tackle.
    Otherwise losing Matt will make a questionable OL into a unquestionably poor OL.
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    Re: Dumbbells can't handle Birk's work

    "gagarr" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    Nice read.
    Great to see that Birk is taking his training seriously, and not slacking like some certain other members here seem to think he is.
    If he truly is in the best shape he's ever been in, I look forward to see him dominate defensive tackles and Linebackers all day long.
    Some people think that some people are worried about what shape he is in when really some people are more worried that he wasn't there helping the youngsters the way all to the other vets were.

    :P
    :P
    :P

    Seriously, my beef with Matt has, and will always be, that he wasn't in camp providing the example that the young guys needed this year as well as working with TJ and the other guys when it comes to last years issues related to pre-snap read/adjustments, blocking schemes etc via film study.
    I could swear Birk was in mandatory mini-camp and will be in training camp.
    I assume you are talking about the VOLUNTARY OTAs.
    I don't think this is a problem.
    If my boss wanted me to come in on a weekend for no pay to help train a person to replace me.
    I think I would have a problem too.

    Vikes FO should get their heads out of their a$$ and sign him for a few more years. The only way I would accept them not signing Matt is if they take the cash they save on him and use it to sign a top right tackle.
    Otherwise losing Matt will make a questionable OL into a unquestionably poor OL.
    Your assumption is correct.

    Hey, do you think Sharper was an idiot for showing up and helping STJ?
    Isn't he the guy tagged to replace him?

    As to the RT comment.
    I think you will be happy with our RT this year.
    ;D
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