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    Re:Does anyone else see that the Favre watch is fill

    i_bleed_purple wrote:
    Also, I think it also has to do with age.

    remember there was talk last year of putting Favre on a pitch count?

    They know Favre doesn't need TC, and they know at 41 years old, the odds of him lasting a full season decrease. There's no need for him out there getting worn out. Yes, he's a tough SOB, but there will be a time soon when he gets worn out.
    The question is: Will our coaching staff have the stones to sit him if he starts showing his age and playing like crap, regardless of how early/late in the season it is? I sincerely hope they don't pander to his ego to the point where it costs the team a playoff berth. I've grown to like the guy, past rivalry notwithstanding, and love what he did for us last year...but my loyalty to my TEAM comes first.

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    Re:Does anyone else see that the Favre watch is fill

    ndnorseman wrote:
    i_bleed_purple wrote:
    Also, I think it also has to do with age.

    remember there was talk last year of putting Favre on a pitch count?

    They know Favre doesn't need TC, and they know at 41 years old, the odds of him lasting a full season decrease. There's no need for him out there getting worn out. Yes, he's a tough SOB, but there will be a time soon when he gets worn out.
    The question is: Will our coaching staff have the stones to sit him if he starts showing his age and playing like crap, regardless of how early/late in the season it is? I sincerely hope they don't pander to his ego to the point where it costs the team a playoff berth. I've grown to like the guy, past rivalry notwithstanding, and love what he did for us last year...but my loyalty to my TEAM comes first.
    That isn't really the question. In order for them to "have the stones", his play would have to sink below the level of the other QB's. In order for that to happen, he'd essentially have to suck bag.

    It isn't like there's a fine line between him and Jackson/Rosenfels, there's a HUGE difference. And the coaches recognize that.

    So, IF the day comes that Favre sucks so bad that he's not the best QB on the roster, I doubt the coaches would hesitate.

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    Re:Does anyone else see that the Favre watch is fill

    Okay, fair enough, although I should have clarified that as being MY question, rather than THE question. So, having said that, I guess MY next question is:

    How long of a grace period should Favre get before he's benched IF he does start to "suck bag"? Are we looking at part of a game, a full game, two games? Should he be treated like any other QB, or be given more time to get his act together...just because he is who he is?

    I do realize this could all be rendered useless babble when Favre gets on the field and has another great season, but if nothing else, at least it provides interesting banter during this dead part of the offseason.

    I promise I'm not trying to stir things up...I'm just thinking out loud (so to speak), and wondering what other people's thoughts are on these things.

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    Re:Does anyone else see that the Favre watch is fill

    ndnorseman wrote:
    Okay, fair enough, although I should have clarified that as being MY question, rather than THE question. So, having said that, I guess MY next question is:

    How long of a grace period should Favre get before he's benched IF he does start to "suck bag"? Are we looking at part of a game, a full game, two games? Should he be treated like any other QB, or be given more time to get his act together...just because he is who he is?

    I do realize this could all be rendered useless babble when Favre gets on the field and has another great season, but if nothing else, at least it provides interesting banter during this dead part of the offseason.

    I promise I'm not trying to stir things up...I'm just thinking out loud (so to speak), and wondering what other people's thoughts are on these things.
    Unless he gets injured why would he ever suck bag?
    His biggest off season challenge has been testing himself to see if he still physically is capable of playing at the level he expects from himself.
    He questioned that ability last year yet had a terrific season.

    Favre is so much better than his back ups, I doubt pulling him would improve matters.
    I'm guessing Childress will ride on Brett's ship as long as he is willing to sail it.
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    Re:Does anyone else see that the Favre watch is fill

    I have the same concern regarding a possible "tank"...what's our backup plan then??
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    Re:Does anyone else see that the Favre watch is fill

    locuomotion wrote:
    I have the same concern regarding a possible "tank"...what's our backup plan then??
    And who do you see tanking?

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    Re:Does anyone else see that the Favre watch is fill

    ndnorseman wrote:
    Okay, fair enough, although I should have clarified that as being MY question, rather than THE question. So, having said that, I guess MY next question is:

    How long of a grace period should Favre get before he's benched IF he does start to "suck bag"? Are we looking at part of a game, a full game, two games? Should he be treated like any other QB, or be given more time to get his act together...just because he is who he is?

    I do realize this could all be rendered useless babble when Favre gets on the field and has another great season, but if nothing else, at least it provides interesting banter during this dead part of the offseason.

    I promise I'm not trying to stir things up...I'm just thinking out loud (so to speak), and wondering what other people's thoughts are on these things.
    Didn't Favre say that when he got injured with the Jets he should have pulled himself out?

    I expect Favre is the last one to want to lose because he's hurting the team.

    I imagine if he starts to play like he did with the Jets when a playoff birth is on the line. He will sit and get healthy, in hopes he'll be ready for the playoffs.

    I also don't think TJ is that bad that he can't win a few games like he did in 2008 to get the Vikes into the playoffs.

    I personally hope that Favre gets the chance to rest during the season, because it's going to be a LONG one on the way to the SB.
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    Re:Does anyone else see that the Favre watch is fill

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    Does anyone else see that the "Favre watch" is fill for idiotic press trying to fill a couple of minutes on TV or a few lines in print...Its not like he seeks it out its all these boneheads asking every player first right off the bat when is Favre making up his mind. Im sure it gets old to players and coaches a like but its not favre doing it, its the reporters....Its all manufactured BS
    Yup, the Favre watch, preseason sound bites from players and coaches, and all the pre-camp/preseason projections that go along with it...they're ALL media fill.

    Let's face it, aside from Free Agent signings, there is no REAL NFL news right now. No one is going to tell anyone what they really feel - unless they want to get cut or traded (Bobby Wade). And since the hacks have to fill they're columns with something, they push this crap off on us...




    ...so that Marrdro can have something in print that validates his belief in Jackson...

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    I think I'm going to lean towards the "blame Farve" side of this. We went thru this last summer. Why would he think anything would be any different this time around? It's like blaming the police report for everyone knowing that you're a shoplifter. Brett's "I really don't know" answer has gotten old.2nd verse, same as the 1st. "I really don't know what I'm going to do" is the same as" I'll know alot more once some of those 2 a days are over". I'm one that believes that we need him to return if we're going to compete for a championship. I also believe that it can't help a coaching staff at all to be held hostage by the starting QB. I just can't see how it does any good.
    Trust me my friend, this staff isn't getting held hostage by anyone.

    This is a team sport, not a QB sport. The Noodle is coming back, not because this team needs him, but because he knows its his best shot at going out on top. He knows it, the staff knows it, hell, even Sears knows it.

    Besides, just like the bad taste the INT he threw in the 2007 NFCC game left, and ultimately drove him to play for the Jets, the one last year has left even a worse taste in his mouth.

    Only way to rid that taste is to come back and prove something on the field. Again, this team is the best one out there for him to erase that taste.
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