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    Re: Do you think Red McComb was a successful NFL Owner?

    From Red's point of view he is successful.

    From a fan's point of view he hurt the team.
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    Re: Do you think Red McComb was a successful NFL Owner?

    "jimmymac" wrote:
    From Red's point of view he is successful.

    From a fan's point of view he hurt the team.
    i agree 100%

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    Re: Do you think Red McComb was a successful NFL Owner?

    Same answer I give to any Red question..


    RED = LOSER

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    Re: Do you think Red McComb was a successful NFL Owner?

    Dale Carnagie once said that making a product and selling it a 100% profit is not the measure of a successfull businessman. Making a product and selling it for what the market will bare, is!

    From that point of veiw, I'd say Red was very successfull. From the point of veiw of a fan of the game, I'd like to have 5 minures alone in a room with him and a baseball bat!

    I liked what Zygi said......"the car didn't have as much gas in it as we thought, and then when we started to drive it, we found out it was missing some parts". Its still very early, but I think I'm going to like Zygi alot, and for a long time.
    I used to be indecisive, now I m not so sure!

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    Re: Do you think Red McComb was a successful NFL Owner?

    Yeah, zygi seems to be doing the right things. But I'm sure we all said the same thing about McDumb@ss when we first got him too. The positive about zygi though is he's making it apparent that he is not afraid to spend money, even if it is "just" to fix out ship!!!

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    Re: Do you think Red McComb was a successful NFL Owner?

    Red was not, and never will be considered a successful owner, if the definition of a successful owner is one that doesn't let his investment deteriorate by neglect.

    I do not think he was a successful owner, and Wilf agrees with me!!

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    Sid Hartman: Wilf says Vikings were 'mess' at time he purchased team
    Sid Hartman, Star Tribune

    Zygi Wilf, new owner of the Vikings, said he inherited a mess with an underpaid coaching staff, and the entire operation was understaffed when he purchased the team from Red McCombs.

    Wilf met with Paul Tagliabue in Chicago on Sunday, and the NFL commissioner advised him to add to the team personnel.

    Wilf previously had decided that the coaching staff needed more help and added Jerry Rhome and Foge Fazio.

    "This operation was a mess," Wilf said Wednesday. "The owner never spent much time here, didn't make the coaches, the players and staff feel right, and we plan to operate this franchise like a family."

    McCombs was not available for comment Wednesday.

    Tagliabue already has praised Wilf for his presence in Minnesota and being on top of everything.

    On the recommendation of Tagliabue and Breck Spinner, Vikings director of operations, Wilf has added a director of security in former FBI agent Dag Sohlberg.

    "I've tried for seven years to get McCombs to add a security chief without progress," Spinner said.

    The next move Wilf plans to make is to hire a director of personnel, a person with knowledge of players in the NFL, who would work with Vice President of Football Operations Rob Brzezinski.

    "This person would not be a general manager," Wilf said. "But somebody who knows the league."

    Wilf said he believes that because of the frugal (cheapa$$) way McCombs operated, with the lowest-paid head coach in the league and a coaching staff that ranked on the bottom in payroll, that Mike Tice never has had a real chance to put a winning team on the field.

    The facts are that McCombs inherited a team that was way over the salary cap and had to cut it down, but once that was accomplished, the Vikings operated year after year $10 million or more under the salary cap.

    Wilf does agree with McCombs that owners can't buy a winning team in the NFL the way New York Yankees owner George Steinbrenner does in baseball.

    "The NFL's goal is to have parity and they accomplish it," Wilf said.

    But unlike McCombs, look for Wilf to agree to signing some blue-chip free agents if Wilf believes those particular players would help the Vikings compete.

    To McCombs' credit, the Vikings came within one victory of the Super Bowl twice under his ownership. But since that one-sided loss in January 2001 to the New York Giants in the NFC Championship Game, and with the club for sale, I don't believe a good effort was made to spend the money necessary to put a top team on the field.

    Randy Moss had to be traded so the team could save $7.5 million in salary cap space so the Vikings could sign free agents such as Fred Smoot, Pat Williams and Darren Sharper.

    Wilf denied using any vulgar language in his recent meeting with the players, as reported by the Sports Illustrated.


    Viking chaplain Tom Lamphere said he was at meeting and verified that statement. "In fact I complimented Mr. Wilf after the meeting," Lamphere said.

    On another subject, while not campaigning for a Vikings stadium, Wilf can't understand why Gov. Tim Pawlenty and the Legislature can't find a way to get the Twins stadium and the Gophers stadium bill passed because of what both stadiums would do for the area and for the great fans here.

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    Re: Do you think Red McComb was a successful NFL Owner?

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    Sorry to make you feel like your question was not the best, it just seems to me a question that is not worth asking. he bought the team to make money, kept the lowest paying coaching staff, Failed to spend money on the team for the better of the team, made $200 million on the hard working people and fans. We are the ones who supported the team more then RED. Sorry the more I think of your question " It is a question not to ask" Again sorry for being blunt :roll:
    Once again let me state: "This is NOT the best question" I don't know were you read this but please understand this is NOT the best question. I never once stated it would be. I felt it was fair question but not the 'Best question'. As far as being blunt, I think you are fine. You answered the question and I apperciated thank you. But once again it's NOT the best question.
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    Re: Do you think Red McComb was a successful NFL Owner?

    How many Super Bowl rings did the Vikings get while Red was here?

    Does that answer your question?

    No, he was a penny-pinching billionaire who cared more about his pocketbook than he did about the team!!!

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    Re: Do you think Red McComb was a successful NFL Owner?

    The team (98) that almost got there was the team he inheritated.The one we have now is the one Wilf inheritated.McCombs Sucked.
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    Re: Do you think Red McComb was a successful NFL Owner?

    "audioghost" wrote:
    How many Super Bowl rings did the Vikings get while Red was here?

    Does that answer your question?

    No, he was a penny-pinching billionaire who cared more about his pocketbook than he did about the team!!!
    I won't even touch that reponse, but what do you think of the new sig. Lotzapurple119 made me!

    Thanks Lotzapurple119.

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