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    Do we really run a "west coast offense" and a "Cover 2" ??

    I really wonder about our schemes. We constantly hear that the Vikings run a "west coast offense" with a "Cover 2" defense. And yet: through the year, we abandoned the Cover 2, and our QB had a 45 % completion rating, in an offense that preferred to run the ball off tackle, rather than throw it short.

    In short: we have abandoned the west coast offense, and the "Cover 2".

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    Re: Do we really run a "west coast offense" and a "Cover 2" ??

    We actually run what is called the kickass offense

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    Re: Do we really run a "west coast offense" and a "Cover 2" ??

    I only wish...

    The last 4 games still leave a total sour taste in my mouth: defenses stacking the box, and our "genius" coach running the ball off tackle into the teeth of their D. It happened in the 49ers game and every game after that. AP was shut down after game 12. Let's face reality. Defenses dared our coaching staff and QB to throw the ball, and we failed miserably. Tarvaris proved to be a dud.

    I just wonder where this leaves us in 2008.

    Coaching staff: get AP in SPACE, please !!
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    Re: Do we really run a "west coast offense" and a "Cover 2" ??

    I think that's why they brought in Berrian.
    Against Denver i believe it was, they dared us to throw it deep and we hit Williamson in stride, and we all know what happened.
    Berrian hopefully will allow us to stretch out defenses.

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    Re: Do we really run a "west coast offense" and a "Cover 2" ??

    I hope TJ gels and the offense clicks and explodes next year. Then this offense becomes legendary and the "kickass offense" is adopted by multiple teams.

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    Re: Do we really run a "west coast offense" and a "Cover 2" ??

    "DiehardVikesFan" wrote:
    I think that's why they brought in Berrian.
    Against Denver i believe it was, they dared us to throw it deep and we hit Williamson in stride, and we all know what happened.
    Berrian hopefully will allow us to stretch out defenses.
    That doesn't solve the problem. If we leave the game in Tjs hands to win it. We will lose more than we win.

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    Re: Do we really run a "west coast offense" and a "Cover 2" ??

    "kevoncox" wrote:
    "DiehardVikesFan" wrote:
    I think that's why they brought in Berrian.
    Against Denver i believe it was, they dared us to throw it deep and we hit Williamson in stride, and we all know what happened.
    Berrian hopefully will allow us to stretch out defenses.
    That doesn't solve the problem. If we leave the game in Tjs hands to win it. We will lose more than we win.
    technically history would tell us that that's not true since we were 8-4 with him as a starter last year.


    as for the general question...these terms get thrown around way too much and used to make people sound smarter than they are.
    most of the league runs a variation of the west coast offense or the cover 2.
    i think the objective is to have variety in all your looks if you are to really catch anyone off guard.
    if every team that was labeled a wco, or cover 2 defense, exclusively just ran plays that defined those two terms it would be pretty easy to defend and score on those teams regularly.
    if anything it's the base, but after that you have so many different formations and personel that you use it doesn't really matter all that much, if you ask me.
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    Re: Do we really run a "west coast offense" and a "Cover 2" ??

    "StillPurple" wrote:
    I really wonder about our schemes. We constantly hear that the Vikings run a "west coast offense" with a "Cover 2" defense. And yet: through the year, we abandoned the Cover 2, and our QB had a 45 % completion rating, in an offense that preferred to run the ball off tackle, rather than throw it short.

    In short: we have abandoned the west coast offense, and the "Cover 2".

    Right ?
    Where the hell did you dream up that stat? Do you have a link?

    Jackson's completion % for 2007 was 58.2%.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JackTa00.htm

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    Re: Do we really run a "west coast offense" and a "Cover 2" ??

    The term WCO is a bit overused these days as it has morphed into so many different versions, however, there are two predominant philosophies when you discuss the WCO since the Bill Walsh era.

    One is, "Pass to set up the run", and the other is "Run to setup the pass".

    Here is a good discussion/set of links I provided DaVike in another thread a while ago.

    Very interesting reads if you have the time that will help you understand what variant we run.

    http://www.purplepride.org/forums/in...7982#msg727982

    As to our defense, I don't think you saw us "Give up" on our cover 2 scheme last year but rather get away from it a bit because we lacked the ability to get pressure from our front 4 which is what the whole defensive scheme is based off of.

    In an effort to get pressure on the QB they started to send LB'rs which inturn took LB'rs out of the zones that they would normally drop back into to take away the quick stuff like short slants and quick outs.

    That in turn had a trickle down affect as it made our CB's play a bit more press coverage which isn't thier strong suite.

    Again, I don't think we gave up on the scheme but were forced to come up with different ways to overcome the lack of pressure from our front 4.
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    Re: Do we really run a "west coast offense" and a "Cover 2" ??

    "singersp" wrote:
    "StillPurple" wrote:
    I really wonder about our schemes. We constantly hear that the Vikings run a "west coast offense" with a "Cover 2" defense. And yet: through the year, we abandoned the Cover 2, and our QB had a 45 % completion rating, in an offense that preferred to run the ball off tackle, rather than throw it short.

    In short: we have abandoned the west coast offense, and the "Cover 2".

    Right ?
    Where the hell did you dream up that stat? Do you have a link?

    Jackson's completion % for 2007 was 58.2%.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JackTa00.htm
    Stop trying to interject fact into the argument.
    Don't you know that the only things that matter are emotion and wild theories?
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    When are you going to realize that picking out the 20 bad throws this year and ignoring the 300 good ones does not make your point?

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