Thread: Daunte is in Minneapolis

Posted on Wed, Feb. 01, 2006

[size=18px]MEETING UPSETS CULPEPPER[/size]

SHOOTER CHARLEY WALTERS
St. Paul Pioneer Press

Vikings quarterback Daunte Culpepper, seeking to restructure his contract, was in town Tuesday to meet with team officials. Culpepper flew back to Florida in a chartered jet, and indications are he wasn't pleased.

A little birdie says Culpepper, recovering from major knee surgery, wants more guaranteed money than the Vikings are willing to offer. Don't be surprised if Arizona Cardinals coach Dennis Green, who drafted Culpepper when he coached the Vikings, and Minnesota soon begin trade talks.

http://www.startribune.com/510/story/215444.html

This doesn't sound good. WWZD?

Will he pay the 6 mil roster bonus & see what transpires or will he consider a trade?

If there are teams out there willing to pay DC more guaranteed money, why won't we?

I think it could just be a matter of restructuring his current contract, without giving him more out of pocket money, but shifting more of it to guaranteed money.

I've always been a C-PeP backer, but he's starting to get to me, if this is true...

"singersp" wrote:

This doesn't sound good. WWZD?

Will he pay the 6 mil roster bonus & see what transpires or will he consider a trade?

If there are teams out there willing to pay DC more guaranteed money, why won't we?

I think it could just be a matter of restructuring his current contract, without giving him more out of pocket money, but shifting more of it to guaranteed money.

Why should we?

Culpepper has lost his marbles. The Vikings should not give him another dime. He should earn his money on the field. Let's face it, last year he sucked! Coaches need to determine if his lack of production was due to the O-line or lack of Moss. Let's get Birk back, see how his knee holds up and then talk. Not to mention, Cullpepper make a lot of his plays on the run. NOT A DIME C-PEPP not A DIME!!!!

Seems to me,

Thats like one of my workers getting hurt on the job, let's say he hurts his back, he's out for 4-6 months then comes strolling into the office and proceeds to ask me for a raise..

WTF, I'de probably laugh at him....

Thats why I have insurence, and he would be collecting on it...

Now, If he came back as good as before, maybe even stronger and worked hard and asked a few months later for a raise I would then consider it.....

I just don't see C-PeP's justification....

"Del Rio" wrote:

"singersp" wrote:

This doesn't sound good. WWZD?

Will he pay the 6 mil roster bonus & see what transpires or will he consider a trade?

If there are teams out there willing to pay DC more guaranteed money, why won't we?

I think it could just be a matter of restructuring his current contract, without giving him more out of pocket money, but shifting more of it to guaranteed money.

Why should we?

That's why I'm asking the question.

Below is a list of 2004 QB salaries (guaranteed money)

I can't find 2005. I'm aware there are obviously changes. Anyone?

I do Know DC did get more guaranteed money last year, but was that a 1 year deal or for the life of the contract?

Player | Base Salary | Total Salary
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Manning, Peyton | $535,000 | $35,037,700
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Pennington, Chad | $1,000,000 | $19,004,000
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Vick, Michael | $5,000,000 | $12,502,400
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* McNabb, Donovan | $4,000,000 | $11,002,300
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Bulger, Marc | $455,000 | $9,459,200
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Brunell, Mark | $760,000 | $9,364,300
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Rivers, Philip | $230,000 | $8,955,000
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Bledsoe, Drew | $2,250,000 | $8,752,800
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Favre, Brett | $5,500,000 | $8,501,000
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Leftwich, Byron | $305,000 | $8,399,000
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Delhomme, Jake | $535,000 | $7,735,000
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* McNair, Steve | $660,000 | $6,750,910
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Hasselbeck, Matt | $5,500,000 | $5,504,800
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Brady, Tom | $535,000 | $5,504,200
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Garcia, Jeff | $535,000 | $5,504,000
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Manning, Eli | $1,744,000 | $4,744,000
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Gannon, Rich | $4,500,000 | $4,501,700
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Johnson, Brad | $3,250,000 | $4,002,800
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Green, Trent | $1,795,000 | $3,895,000
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Fiedler, Jay | $3,000,000 | $3,775,000
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Brooks, Aaron | $3,250,000 | $3,500,000
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Feeley, AJ | $455,000 | $3,455,000
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Kitna, Jon | $1,000,000 | $3,377,500
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Warner, Kurt | $1,000,000 | $3,000,400
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Maddox, Tommy | $750,000 | $2,753,200
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Volek, Billy | $535,000 | $2,739,310
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Boller, Kyle | $306,250 | $2,360,150
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Collins, Kerry | $660,000 | $2,301,600
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Grossman, Rex | $305,000 | $2,289,500
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Brees, Drew | $1,560,000 | $2,063,500
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Wright, Anthony | $535,000 | $2,036,600
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Bouman, Todd | $725,000 | $2,005,000
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Roethlisberger, Ben | $230,000 | $2,002,000
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Harrington, Joey | $380,000 | $1,775,000
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* McMahon, Mike | $1,368,000 | $1,372,800
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* King, Shaun | $850,000 | $1,351,600
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Palmer, Carson | $1,337,500 | $1,337,500
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Dilfer, Trent | $1,250,000 | $1,251,200
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Flutie, Doug | $760,000 | $1,226,900
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Weinke, Chris | $807,647 | $1,125,000
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Testaverde, Vinny | $1,100,000 | $1,100,000
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Losman, JP | $230,000 | $1,078,000
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Holcomb, Kelly | $975,000 | $1,075,000
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Chandler, Chris | $760,000 | $1,063,500
ÂÂÂ*ÂÂÂ* Culpepper, Daunte | $535,000 | $1,037,300

Source: http://asp.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/salaries/playersbyposition.aspx?pos=3&order=Salary+desc

I don't understand the buisiness side as well as some people.

On one hand if they had a verbal agreement to restructure his contract I can see his frustration. On the other hand he is in the middle of what possibly could be a career ending injury.

I think the organization should back him. I think they should work out a deal that would make him even richer, with one stipulation, you play. If he doesn't he still gets his original deal.

"Del Rio" wrote:

I don't understand the buisiness side as well as some people.

On one hand if they had a verbal agreement to restructure his contract I can see his frustration. On the other hand he is in the middle of what possibly could be a career ending injury.

I think the organization should back him. I think they should work out a deal that would make him even richer, with one stipulation, you play. If he doesn't he still gets his original deal.

I agree. It has to be fair & protect both parties involved.

I'm just saying based on his current guaranteed money, more could be slid from column X to column A (guaranteed money)

"VikingNed" wrote:

Seems to me,

Thats like one of my workers getting hurt on the job, let's say he hurts his back, he's out for 4-6 months then comes strolling into the office and proceeds to ask me for a raise..

WTF, I'de probably laugh at him....

Thats why I have insurence, and he would be collecting on it...

Now, If he came back as good as before, maybe even stronger and worked hard and asked a few months later for a raise I would then consider it.....

I just don't see C-PeP's justification....

Ned,
I believe the guaranteed money is the insurance.

Let's say you pay the following salaries;

Employee A: $20,000 guaranteed + $5,000 bonus if he works all year

Employee B: $18,000 guaranteed + $7,000 bonus if he works all year

Employee C: $5,000 guaranteed + $20,000 bonus if he works all year

All 3 make the same amount if they work all year.

Several QB's in the league are paid like employee A, while DC is paid like employee C.

DC is looking to be paid more like employee A or B. I don't think he's asking for more overall money. He's just asking to be paid more guaranteed money like many other QB's.

When the 2005 players salary list comes out, I'll show you what I mean.

The 2004 salary obviously has changed for 2005.

But in 2004, his guaranteed salary was 45th out of all QB's.

If you look at the list, Peyton gets $35 mil if he's out for the season because if gets injured in preseason, whereas DC gets 1 mil.