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    Could Vikings history be repeating itself, only better?

    Alot of what I am going to say is from memory, so bear w/ me on this.
    I remember the early days of the Minnesota Vikings....The days of the Purple People Eaters.
    That defense was the reason we made it to the post-season.
    We had a quarterback by the name of Joe Kapp leading the Viking offense to our first Superbowl against the K.C. Chiefs :-[


    Our offense floundered with Q.B.'s like Gary Cuozzo & Norm Snead until we brought back the quarterback that started it all....Fran Tarkenton in 1972.
    At that time he was in his early-mid 30's, and people wondered if this was the right guy. Too old?
    Been beaten up?
    Can't throw deep... His first year the Vikes were 7-7.
    However in 1973 we drafted Chuck Foreman.
    That year we went 12-2 and to the superbowl :'(


    Tarkenton played for the Vikes thru 1978 and took us to 2-more superbowls.
    :'(
    :'(
    in 72' we had a quarterback needed a running back.

    Fast forward:
    2008 The Minnesota Vikings get back to the playoffs due to a #1 ranked defense against the run, and a much improved pass defense + the addition of the best running game in the NFL.
    So now we have the defense & running attack, need a quarterback.
    Enter Favre.
    Can the results be the same as the mid-late 70's only better?

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    Re: Could Vikings history be repeating itself, only better?

    We can hope!
    Zeus wrote:
    When are you going to realize that picking out the 20 bad throws this year and ignoring the 300 good ones does not make your point?

    =Z=

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    Re: Could Vikings history be repeating itself, only better?

    Tarkenton was 32 in 72. In his last 2 years his production fell off considerably throwing more picks than TD. He retired at 38.

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    Re: Could Vikings history be repeating itself, only better?

    In short it's about having all the right pieces:
    Rush D
    Pass D
    Rushing O
    Passing O
    ST

    Vikes have only had 2 of the 5 for a while.

    The Passing D's younger players have more experienced: Griffin, McCauley, and Tyrell, but lost (a step) Sharper.
    Passing O has added a QB and a versital WR that should light a fire.
    ST's just don't have to screw things up, but if they actually get good it would really help.
    Gotta love good field position.

    But I think besides the players, the coaches need to know how to best use the players.
    I really hope that with Favre and PH that Chilly's KAO can actually become a reality.
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    Re: Could Vikings history be repeating itself, only better?

    You are correct.
    The point is though, we need an immediate upgrade.
    The Vikings of old had basically everything they needed to contend except a q.b. and running back.
    They went out a got Tarkenton who played until he was 38 (although lost his stuff the last 2-years for sure)


    Now the 2009 Vikings have all of the pieces in place except a Q.B.
    Even though he is 39- He has much more than the other q.b.s we have right now,
    and I think we are ready to contend with all of the other pieces....Just not at Q.B.
    Let's do everything we can to win in 09'!
    I think Favre @ 39-gives us that chance just like Tarkenton in 1973

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    Re: Could Vikings history be repeating itself, only better?

    "V-Ia.king" wrote:
    You are correct.
    The point is though, we need an immediate upgrade.
    The Vikings of old had basically everything they needed to contend except a q.b. and running back.
    They went out a got Tarkenton who played until he was 38 (although lost his stuff the last 2-years for sure)


    Now the 2009 Vikings have all of the pieces in place except a Q.B.
    Even though he is 39- He has much more than the other q.b.s we have right now,
    and I think we are ready to contend with all of the other pieces....Just not at Q.B.
    Let's do everything we can to win in 09'!
    I think Favre @ 39-gives us that chance just like Tarkenton in 1973
    If you actually look at the stats, the 1973 teams wasn't exceptional in anything, they were just balanced
    Ranking:
    #11 Rush D
    #12 Pass D
    #6 Rushing O
    #14 Passing O

    Unlike the Vikes last year:
    #1 Rush D
    #18 Pass D
    #5 Rushing O
    #25 Passing O

    If the passing O can go up into the top 15 and the pass D can make it to 13ish.


    But what really matters is wins, that requires points, thus if ST can give good field position on both sides of the ball, it will really really help.
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    Re: Could Vikings history be repeating itself, only better?

    Apparently the Vikings never learn from their mistakes:

    In '93 the signed Jim McMahon sporting him as SuperBowl QB that knows how to beat NFC Central teams to end the Sean Salisbury/Rich Gannon QB ineptitude.
    And yes, Rich Gannon would go on to do great things later in life - but at that time - he was not very consistant.


    After the McMahon experiment - The Vikings signed Warren Moon - who threw for a lot of yards, but was eventually replaced with Brad Johnson, a 12 round draft pick.



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    Re: Could Vikings history be repeating itself, only better?

    Ye ...only better mane!! 8)

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    Re: Could Vikings history be repeating itself, only better?

    If you mean by the Vikings sacrificing the future to try and win it all in one season, then yes, only with the same results.
    No Super Bowl.
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    Sorry, still angry but I'm getting better.
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    Re: Could Vikings history be repeating itself, only better?


    Do you mean no Super Bowl win,
    or no Super Bowl period?

    And I'm not sure if it's a 1-year experiment that will kill the Vikes.
    One of the 2 quarterbacks (Sage or T-Jack)
    knew they were going to be the backup anyway.
    If our F.O.
    can figure out the right one to keep and Favre can help groom him then that might be good in the long term.

    The big question is which Q.B. has the "stuff"
    to hang in there and learn, work and be successful after the Favre experiment.


    Do you think Matt Cassell was happy being a backup to Tom Brady?
    But look at what happened to him.

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