Thread: Comparing Cpep to Vick

And just cause I was bored

Donovan McNabb 7-5 in playoffs, 80-22 in regular season (.784!!)
Tom Brady 9-0 in playoffs 50-15 in regular season (.769)
Peyton Manning 3-5 in playoffs, 66-46 regular season (.600)

Vick is beter than Manning and right on McNabb and Brady for winning percentage ... no other QBs I could think of were close to these numbers, though McNair is in the area ... and obviously Roehtlisberger, but he does not count yet I dont think (he will be very high on this list in a year or two with his winning percentage)

winning percentage are you kidding me last year culpepper threw for as many td's as vick has his whole career, and moss didn't catch em all, this isn't basketball, pepper doesn't play defense. if he puts up points and gets no help from the defense whats he going to do. and i may be wrong but Price is a pretty good reciever and vick had him last year. if vick doesn't become a better QB, he will always be remembered as a great player thats all, and he'll probably set an alltime record for rushes yards. and thats to bad for emmit smith

Price was there for a few years, and he and Vick never totally seemed like they were on the same page. As of now, Vick's biggest target is still his TE.

"tampaviking" wrote:

winning percentage are you kidding me last year culpepper threw for as many td's as vick has his whole career, and moss didn't catch em all, this isn't basketball, pepper doesn't play defense. if he puts up points and gets no help from the defense whats he going to do. and i may be wrong but Price is a pretty good reciever and vick had him last year. if vick doesn't become a better QB, he will always be remembered as a great player thats all, and he'll probably set an alltime record for rushes yards. and thats to bad for emmit smith

Winning is what it is all about ... period ... I love CPep, but Vick definitely wins, there is no disputing that.
By the way ... Price is not a good receiver, he is average, and definitely does not qualify as a receiver who can "go get it" Notice he can not even get in in Dallas right now ...And your little Emmit comment is retarded and naive.
Great QBs win, it is that simple, and CPep has won at times, but he single-handely has lost games too, something that Vick does not do very often ... like I said I would not trade CPep, but trashing Vick because he does not throw great is narrow-minded, he was not drafted to throw great ... he was drafted to win and he does.

Vick may be more exciting to watch, but I would rather have Pep on my team. Here is an article on Pep turning it around this season.

Minnesota's Culpepper shows his true colors
By Brian Gillespie, NFL Analyst

(Sports Network) - The true measure of a man can be done during times of adversity. Some men throw in the towel at the slightest hint of failure, while others persevere and get stronger through tough times. The latter can be said of Minnesota Vikings quarterback Daunte Culpepper, who allowed his true colors to shine through in a season-saving effort versus New Orleans on Sunday.

Read on:

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=nfl/news/ABN3981780.htm

"midgensa" wrote:

And just cause I was bored

Donovan McNabb 7-5 in playoffs, 80-22 in regular season (.784!!)
Tom Brady 9-0 in playoffs 50-15 in regular season (.769)
Peyton Manning 3-5 in playoffs, 66-46 regular season (.600)

Vick is beter than Manning and right on McNabb and Brady for winning percentage ... no other QBs I could think of were close to these numbers, though McNair is in the area ... and obviously Roehtlisberger, but he does not count yet I dont think (he will be very high on this list in a year or two with his winning percentage)

The reason being is that they have had DEFENSES. Daunte has NEVER had a top notch defense. I know QBs are pegged with wins and losses, but you have to take into account the rest of the team. If the D is as holey (sp?) as swiss cheese that makes it tough for the O and puts a lot of pressure on the O and the QB.

if manning didnt have all those tds last year, c-pep would have been mvp. look at his numbers and conpair them to some from the past. he is in the top 5 in a lot of places.

Where would DC's winning percentage be if he had a D like ATL, PHI, and NE, or even PIT?

Where would DC be if he had a coach like Mora, Reid, or "BellyCheck?"

DC had two(coach and D) strikes against him and he is still hitting homeruns.

DC has been playing on talent and last year it showed. Wait until the end of the season before judging DC. The first 2 games were a fluke(crossing my fingers so I don't have to eat crow, I hate crow, prefer pheasant).