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    Clayton: Packers and Vikings Over The Salary Cap

    Clayton: Packers and Vikings Over The Salary Cap

    Over at ESPN.com, John Clayton discusses the lower 2011 salary cap (even if the owners and players work it out soon, there should be some lost revenue which would keep the cap lower). And then he looks at the Green Bay Packers and Minnesota Vikings because they are two of the seven teams over a hypothetical cap of $120 million. From ESPN:

    Green Bay Packers -- The Packers really don't have a cap problem, particularly if they move linebacker Nick Barnett. Cutting or trading him saves the team about $4.4 million. They can save close to $4.5 million if right tackle Mark Tauscher doesn't come back. The Packers are $62,000 under the cap.

    Minnesota Vikings -- The Vikings are $5.148 million over, which will make it tough for them to keep Bernard Berrian. Releasing him would save around $3.7 million. Adrian Peterson is in the final year on his contract with a salary of $10.72 million. He wants a long-term deal, and if the Vikings accommodate it would free up a lot of cap room.
    The Vikings have bigger problems, but it's manageable. I'm not sure why they'd want to keep Bernard Berrian after last season anyway.
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    Re: Clayton: Packers and Vikings Over The Salary Cap

    Looks like it is time to cut Peterson.

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    Re: Clayton: Packers and Vikings Over The Salary Cap

    The January salary numbers had the Packers at 129.8 and the Vikes at 108.4 mil, this was before the Packers released a couple of players and redid Hawks contract and also didn't include any of the tender or other deals before the lockout.

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    Re: Clayton: Packers and Vikings Over The Salary Cap

    Quote Originally Posted by "vikinggreg" #1100326
    The January salary numbers had the Packers at 129.8 and the Vikes at 108.4 mil, this was before the Packers released a couple of players and redid Hawks contract and also didn't include any of the tender or other deals before the lockout.

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    These numbers donít include what restricted free agents, exclusive-rights free agents or franchise players would count toward the cap because we donít know that -- and wonít until there is a labor agreement in place. And, although we know there will be a 2011 draft no matter what, these numbers donít include rookie salaries. The numbers below are only for players currently under contract for the 2011 season.
    Projections show the NFL increasing it's revenue over the next several years.
    I have seen some reports stating the salary cap could be set as high as $140 million with a requirement that at least 90% of it to be spent each year.
    http://www.dailynorseman.com/2011/2/7/1981003/2011-nfl-salary-cap-vikings-may-have-some-money-to-burn

    If that's the case, there will be a lot of money to keep and sign your own players as well as throw at free agents.

    Jerry Jones appears to be in a bit of a cap pickle. If he squawks enough, the cap will probably get set higher than $120 million.
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    Re: Clayton: Packers and Vikings Over The Salary Cap

    Quote Originally Posted by "jargomcfargo" #1100329
    Quote Originally Posted by "vikinggreg" #1100326
    The January salary numbers had the Packers at 129.8 and the Vikes at 108.4 mil, this was before the Packers released a couple of players and redid Hawks contract and also didn't include any of the tender or other deals before the lockout.

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    From the article:
    These numbers donít include what restricted free agents, exclusive-rights free agents or franchise players would count toward the cap because we donít know that -- and wonít until there is a labor agreement in place. And, although we know there will be a 2011 draft no matter what, these numbers donít include rookie salaries. The numbers below are only for players currently under contract for the 2011 season.
    Projections show the NFL increasing it's revenue over the next several years.
    I have seen some reports stating the salary cap could be set as high as $140 million with a requirement that at least 90% of it to be spent each year.
    http://www.dailynorseman.com/2011/2/7/1981003/2011-nfl-salary-cap-vikings-may-have-some-money-to-burn

    If that's the case, there will be a lot of money to keep and sign your own players as well as throw at free agents.

    Jerry Jones appears to be in a bit of a cap pickle. If he squawks enough, the cap will probably get set higher than $120 million.
    One thing to watch with whatever the new cap number is will be how the signing bonus will be handled against the cap, some of what I've heard talked about is the higher the cap (140 neigbourhood) could be a true dollar cap so a 10 mill bonus will hit the years cap that its paid, the lower cap range the bonus will hit the cap over the life of the contract say 10 mill over a 5 year contract would be 2 mill a year and the other thing that was discussed was lower signing bonus with more built in roster bonuses over the life of a contract for teams to spend the money around if it becomes a true cash cap. But both New York teams and the Packers seem to have a fair bit of cash already tied up and the Bucs and Panthers have some spending to do. It will be just as interesting to see free agency start to see which players will be released to make cap room.

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    Re: Clayton: Packers and Vikings Over The Salary Cap

    Suprised the Vikings are that close, without Favre's 16million or so.
    It sounded earlier that they were going to go to more of a cash basis, meaning you have to actually spend the money during the year for it to count. This could be a big break for teams that have been pushing money back, delaying the cap impact.
    It also means higher payroll for teams at the bottom who were counting salary and bonuses that would likely never be paid.
    Can't wait for the final deal to come through to see how this will all play out.

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    Re: Clayton: Packers and Vikings Over The Salary Cap

    Quote Originally Posted by "Purple Floyd" #1100324
    Looks like it is time to cut Peterson.
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    JK...You are kidding, right!?


    Those numbers make no sense...unless they're still counting the Favre against us!? Other than BF, with all the restrictions, we didn't sign any big money guys last season at all, in fact, who was our last big contract!? Most of the flurry of guys we signed early in Chilly's reign are coming up on the end of their contracts...Leber, Madieu, BB, Hutch?

    Boy O Boy!! When this ball gets a rolling, it is going to be one hell of an avalanche rolling down the mountain!

    The players want shorter contracts and the owners want less payroll, which could easily add up to lots more Free Agents available than ever before (especially with last year's crop still in limbo!) Then you also have all the Undrafted Free Agents from this year's rookies still out there and only about a week til training camp starts!

    We are probably going to see one hell of a flurry of FA visits/signings/rumors/etc!!! I hope we have a lil cap space to resign Rice, Leber, Greenway and AP, and maybe still have a bit left to upgrade S and/or DT depth!?!

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    Re: Clayton: Packers and Vikings Over The Salary Cap

    Quote Originally Posted by "jargomcfargo" #1100329
    Quote Originally Posted by "vikinggreg" #1100326
    The January salary numbers had the Packers at 129.8 and the Vikes at 108.4 mil, this was before the Packers released a couple of players and redid Hawks contract and also didn't include any of the tender or other deals before the lockout.

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    From the article:
    These numbers donít include what restricted free agents, exclusive-rights free agents or franchise players would count toward the cap because we donít know that -- and wonít until there is a labor agreement in place. And, although we know there will be a 2011 draft no matter what, these numbers donít include rookie salaries. The numbers below are only for players currently under contract for the 2011 season.
    Projections show the NFL increasing it's revenue over the next several years.
    I have seen some reports stating the salary cap could be set as high as $140 million with a requirement that at least 90% of it to be spent each year.
    http://www.dailynorseman.com/2011/2/7/1981003/2011-nfl-salary-cap-vikings-may-have-some-money-to-burn

    If that's the case, there will be a lot of money to keep and sign your own players as well as throw at free agents.

    Jerry Jones appears to be in a bit of a cap pickle. If he squawks enough, the cap will probably get set higher than $120 million.
    How dare you inject any sort of comment that uses a "Blog" as a ref source for your discussion point.hmy:

    Silly ole Doc.

    Been in the closet the past few days, however, I've had some time to visit some other "Sites that aren't credible" and they have some very interesting points on "Attacking the CAP".

    Adrian Peterson, HB, Age 26

    2011 Salary: $10.72 Million

    The Scoop: This is one of the biggest issues currently facing the Vikings front office. While conventional wisdom says you shouldnít give a massive second contract to running backs, whom have a tendency to break down early in their careers in todayís NFL, no player seems more likely to defy the odds than the guy that does it every Sunday. Peterson is getting better every year, it seems, and projects to become the highest paid running back in the history of the NFL.

    In 2008, Rams running back Steven Jackson had to hold out in order to get paid, and that is likely a scenario the Vikings would prefer to avoid. Using Jacksonís contract as measuring stick, it seems like Peterson could end up with a contract in the neighborhood of six years, $60 million total, $25 million in guarantees, and a signing bonus of about $13 million.

    This means that Peterson could end up being one of those rare cases where a restructured contract actually ends up increasing the hit he causes to the teams salary cap. One way or another, All Day will get his pay day, and it seems very likely that the Vikings are the team that will have to figure out a way to front the dough.
    Attacking The Cap: The Top Three

    There are a couple more on the site, but I won't bother to post them as a couple of posters on here will then go off on some tangent how we are "Validating" that blogs existance. :whistle:
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    Re: Clayton: Packers and Vikings Over The Salary Cap

    Minnesota Vikings -- The Vikings are $5.148 million over, which will make it tough for them to keep Bernard Berrian. Releasing him would save around $3.7 million. Adrian Peterson is in the final year on his contract with a salary of $10.72 million. He wants a long-term deal, and if the Vikings accommodate it would free up a lot of cap room.
    The Vikings have bigger problems, but it's manageable. I'm not sure why they'd want to keep Bernard Berrian after last season anyway.
    Keep Bernard Berrian? ROTFL!!!!

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    Re: Clayton: Packers and Vikings Over The Salary Cap

    Not sure how re-signing Peterson will free up cap room. I can't imagine we would pay him much under the 10.7million he is currently entitled. Sure maybe we could push more money to later years, but that is only going to hurt more in 4 or 5 years when he is wearing down, or not playing at all, but takes up a huge part of the cap. Take the hit now while your atleast getting production for it.

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