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    Re: Is Childress too conservative?

    at times i agree, he was a bit conservative... had to do with the personnel though.

    i liked the onside kick to open the game against the eagles last year!!

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    Re: Is Childress too conservative?

    He is definitely conservative at times, but who the hell am I to judge. Not like he has had a lot of home run hitters in the passing game ... so I will definitely be interested to see how things change with some of the additions they made.

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    I'm not saying Childress is but after watching him the last couple of years I'm going to say "Yes, at times" I think he becomes too conservative in his play calling. I know, I know, I've seen him pull of a few good "trick" plays and for that I applaud him. But last year when defenses stacked the box to stop the run, I didn't see him do a lot to try and keep teams from doing that. I know, we didn't have the best passer in TJ or receivers, but I do remember that TJ threw a couple of "quick outs" in the Denver game and both were completed. Why didn't he do that more often? I know TJ panics a lot under pressure, but how hard is it to throw quick crossing patterns just over the linemen and in front of the linebackers, or passes out in the flat?
    I will concede that maybe he didn't feel he had the "horses" to make it work. But look at this...His opening plays usually are much less conservative but as the game goes on they become more and more conservative.
    I am maybe way off base here, but just food for thought. Many of you are much better at watching for things like this and I am.
    Nice topic CoJo. I agree at times he got too conservative but like you mentioned its somewhat understandable at times. I believe he tried to milk some leads a little too much instead going out there with that "Lets score attitude". I think the conservative play calling lead to some very predictable play calling and I'm more worried about this. I believe as Childress progresses as a coach, which he has shown and admitted he will do, I see better play calling and guns to do it. I'm really exited about the upcoming season for the offesive unit and believe we can be good. Guys need to stay healthy and Oline needs to get better at pass protection to provide Childress with the comfort he needs to do what he wants. Overall I think its a growing process and soon we will see the full results.

    Another thing to add is Childress's theory of ball control, so some of play calling may remain conservative, he wants long grinding drives moving the chains many times instead of just one shot scores. I agree with this phylosiphy, It's very difficult to stop a team who has very quick WR's running a timing system on short routes. The Seahawks spanked the Steelers in the SB but had some very unfortunate drops at really bad times. But watching that offense it was in sync and very hard to stop. Eventually we want to become this.

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    Re: Is Childress too conservative?

    ha- if you had a dominant defense, dominant running game, and a QB whose most famous pass is the infamous 'jump shot'... you'd be conservative too.

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    Re: Is Childress too conservative?

    He makes his daughter wear one of these:



    So I'd say yes.
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    Re: Is Childress too conservative?

    dont tell me were actually going to let this thread go on and on..weve been talking about this exact topic for how many years now??
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    Re: Is Childress too conservative?

    yes olson we are.


    he aggravates me cuz i think he is conservative most of the time.
    and i think it's cost us games.
    i understand holding back cuz you may not have the personel, but you have to try and create mismatches and running straight into 8 men fronts, and running a short passing game when everybody is bunched up is not gonna work.


    and then he would show glimpses of aggresiveness, but then revert back to trying not to lose instead of being aggressive.
    and that really gets to me when you are inconsistent like that.
    it makes it look like you are indecisive.
    and theres been too many games where he plays it conservative for too long and the other team opens up a sizeable lead, and when we finally open it up, alot of times the lead is insurmountable.
    the 2nd green bay game, the washington game, and really the denver game if tavaris didn't play as well as he did.
    there has to be more games this year where we come out spread, as opposed to waiting until were down by 2 or more scores in the 4th quarter.
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    Things are gonna open up a little bit this year. Tarvaris will be able to audible out of a play if he doesn't like what he see's. The thing is - until we can show that we can defeat stacked defense's with the pass they are going to keep bringing 8-9 guys in the box. We have some explosion at the WR position now, and I see us taking advantage of the 1 on 1 coverage's that stacking the box will give us. Again play action will be big, and also 3 and 5 step drops, timing passes. We will still run more than pass, but if our rushing attack gets stopped the play selection will be more open to us with Tarvaris in his third year second as a starter.

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    Re: Is Childress too conservative?

    "daftparrot" wrote:
    ha- if you had a dominant defense, dominant running game, and a QB whose most famous pass is the infamous 'jump shot'... you'd be conservative too.
    How many times did you see that happen last year?
    Seriously, how many and what was the circumstances behind it? :
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    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "daftparrot" wrote:
    ha- if you had a dominant defense, dominant running game, and a QB whose most famous pass is the infamous 'jump shot'... you'd be conservative too.
    How many times did you see that happen last year?
    Seriously, how many and what was the circumstances behind it? :
    It only happened twice to my knowledge.
    But unfortunately both were on national television, which is why it became infamous...
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